I concur, my sandy-colored unstriped sister. When will we combine forces to combat the canid menace? If we enlist the spotted cats we may even be able to initiate TND.
if its a docile Indian Elephant where the guy on top is the target probably, likewise if the guy was on a big aggressive African elephant with Musth leaking down its ears a Tiger wouldn't dream of fucking with it either(of course you'd be fucking insane trying to ride that kind of Elephant)
Everything a tiger can Kill a lion can. Tigers have died to animals inferior to lions
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That is no argument. Lions have died due to all sort of stuff as well. Animals are always at risk and even if it have a 99% chance of victory 1% still happens.
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saying "Can you imagine a lion attacking an elephant this big?" is also irrelevant because you are talking about an animal that is basically similar to one and kills similar prey
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Pointing difference in behavior between the two. Lions will use pack tactics to take down bigger prey and usually take down the young, the sick or weak. Tigers are know to kill preys bigger than themselves solo.
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>Pointing difference in behavior between the two. Lions will use pack tactics to take down bigger prey and usually take down the young, the sick or weak. Tigers are know to kill preys bigger than themselves solo.
Like I said, anything a Tiger can do a Lion can. basically same animal
one of my cats kinda reminds me of a jaguar. kinda like the pitbull of the cat-world, in terms of body design.
big muscled head, stocky body. my cat's kinda like that, shorter than the others but built stockier, the pronounced head muscles. his are long instead of wide. most toms got the wide heads. he was fixed at the start of puberty.
>During telemetry research in the Sikhote-Alin Nature Reserve, 44 direct confrontations between bears and tigers were observed, in which bears in general were killed in 22 cases, and tigers in 12 cases
Can lions take on BEARS? I don't fucking think so.
Wild confrontations aren't as great a source as you'd think because between two relatively evenly matched species no one is retarded enough to pick a fair fight with the biggest males of the opposing species.
I actually wonder why 12 tigers died since apparently those bears aren't even particularly carnivorous. >Although the diet of an Ussuri brown bear is mainly vegetarian, being a large predator it is able to kill any prey in its habitat.
Either a bear occasionally had the opportunity to eat a smaller tiger fall into its lap, or those 12 tigers fucked up bad.
The retardation is astounding. Anybody who uses “Le animal trainer said lion wins” as an argument is fucking stupid. The same goes for people who say the tiger will obliterate the lion. Lions are not game bred nor are they a whole lot more vicious and combative, tigers are not 200 pounds heavier than lions. It depends entirely on the individual and is very circumstantial. This argument has been fought to death on shitholes like Carnivora forum and even on wikipedia because people with nothing better to do can’t seem to comprehend that their favourite cat won’t dominate the other. Stop attaching your egos to animals
>Le animal trainer said lion wins
it's what they see from experience what counts. if a trainer has seen multiple animals fight with one animal having a better outcome it's obviously a big factor in these debates
>if a trainer has seen multiple animals fight with one animal having a better outcome it's obviously a big factor in these debates
Or on the other hand they could be full of shit, which they often are
Tigers are strong but they always hunt weak shit. Lions get in fights to the death often. Both are amazing creatures, but the lion would just take it I think
It usually is cubs or female bears, but they’ve been recorded taking bears bigger than themselves so it’s feasible a large tiger could take an adult brown bear
Well let’s look at history. In the past bengal tigers and Asiatic lions shared India.
Caspian tigers and asiatic lions probably crossed paths in parts of Central Asia and the caucuses.
And way back in the Pleistocene Siberian tigers and cave lions probably bumped into each other occasionally.
I thought that this fight actually ended up happening a few times in the 18-1900s and the tiger universally merked the lion. A fuzzy neck poof isn't going to help you when the other guy has a good 200 pounds on you.
Tigers don't weigh 200 pounds more. They both weigh around 400-500 pounds on average. Tigers don't like engaging in fights and end up being killed or dominated by lions.
depends on what species of tiger. bengal and siberian grow significantly larger than african lions.
equal height and weight i would probably bet on the lion just because they spend more time fighting, not just other lions but hyenas and wild dogs etc. i like tigers better tho
Lion wins. They've evolved a mane to protect their neck during their frequent fights, and they typically run down or straight up 1v1 their prey, tigers meanwhile are ambush predators and rarely, if ever, fight each other as adults
Not him, but the same people want you to believe that cutting off your penis makes you a woman and they give sterilize 10 year olds for the greater good.
I don't trust any of those "experts", be it biology or "psychology" (which is not even a real science if we follow the scientific method, but that's a whole another story).
Also, calling Internet opponents schizo is a liberal psyop to dismiss what they're saying without critically engaging with it.
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OK groomer
>critically engaging
replying to lion and tiger anecdotes by pivoting to trannies and liberals and penises and psychology and groomers is 100% schizo in the derogatory sense, not, to be fair, the clinical sense; real schizos usually aren't so fucking boring
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I'm not taking my meds and you can't force me to
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How would you even know I'm schizophrenic if you aren't gangstalking me? I see you buddy
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>experts
You are either a schizo or can't read
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OK groomer
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>no comment of experts anywhere >resorts to npc response
Yep schizo
that was a tibetan mastiff, not a chow. much bigger and more powerful dog than a chow.
https://i.imgur.com/ywTKYox.jpg
The final VsBattle. The one question that has singlehandedly birthed nerdwars.
Who is it?
every time they ever fight in captivity the tiger annihilates the lion.
but this obviously depends on the type of tiger. i don't know if a bengal tiger could take a lion, or the other two smaller ones. but a siberian tiger, the peak form of tiger, destroys.
why must we always engage in pointless bröther wars
the pitbull apologists merely seek to distract us from our one true enemy
I concur, my sandy-colored unstriped sister. When will we combine forces to combat the canid menace? If we enlist the spotted cats we may even be able to initiate TND.
Can you imagine a lion attacking an elephant this big?
can you imagine a male lion running away from a smaller bear?
Yes https://youtu.be/hsDScD-HbP0
yes, compared to large African elephants that Indian Elephant isn't all that big
Yeah, those are an entire pack of lions facing a kid elephant, would any of them do the same solo?
if its a docile Indian Elephant where the guy on top is the target probably, likewise if the guy was on a big aggressive African elephant with Musth leaking down its ears a Tiger wouldn't dream of fucking with it either(of course you'd be fucking insane trying to ride that kind of Elephant)
And still a lone lion wouldn’t mess with the docile indian elephant. They need a whole pack to face a scared kid elephant.
Everything a tiger can Kill a lion can. Tigers have died to animals inferior to lions
That is no argument. Lions have died due to all sort of stuff as well. Animals are always at risk and even if it have a 99% chance of victory 1% still happens.
saying "Can you imagine a lion attacking an elephant this big?" is also irrelevant because you are talking about an animal that is basically similar to one and kills similar prey
Pointing difference in behavior between the two. Lions will use pack tactics to take down bigger prey and usually take down the young, the sick or weak. Tigers are know to kill preys bigger than themselves solo.
>Pointing difference in behavior between the two. Lions will use pack tactics to take down bigger prey and usually take down the young, the sick or weak. Tigers are know to kill preys bigger than themselves solo.
Like I said, anything a Tiger can do a Lion can. basically same animal
>more than 5 lions
>not a single male in sight
truly the KWAB of the animal kingdom
He's attacking the guy above, not the elephant
Tigers fight 1vs1 so tiger wins
Also lions are homosex
Lions fight 1v1 too. Lions fight more
Would neutered tigers and lions be less aggressive than intact tigers and lions?
Kneel.
Leopards hide in trees because they know they can’t compete with lions.
That’s a Jaguar
The only true chad among the big cats.
Lions live in Africa because they know they can’t compete with jaguars
one of my cats kinda reminds me of a jaguar. kinda like the pitbull of the cat-world, in terms of body design.
big muscled head, stocky body. my cat's kinda like that, shorter than the others but built stockier, the pronounced head muscles. his are long instead of wide. most toms got the wide heads. he was fixed at the start of puberty.
>significantly smaller
>still has a stronger bite force
Legendary
tiger vs baby tiger
it's not even a debate lmao
lions win easily
>During telemetry research in the Sikhote-Alin Nature Reserve, 44 direct confrontations between bears and tigers were observed, in which bears in general were killed in 22 cases, and tigers in 12 cases
Can lions take on BEARS? I don't fucking think so.
>bears in tiger territory: lots
>bears in lion territory: 0
checkmate atheist lions already done 'em in for good
Those aren't brown bears you idiot, they're small indian bears
They’re Ussuri brown bears and they are massive, you idiot
they are brown bears you fucking retard
retard
Wild confrontations aren't as great a source as you'd think because between two relatively evenly matched species no one is retarded enough to pick a fair fight with the biggest males of the opposing species.
I actually wonder why 12 tigers died since apparently those bears aren't even particularly carnivorous.
>Although the diet of an Ussuri brown bear is mainly vegetarian, being a large predator it is able to kill any prey in its habitat.
Either a bear occasionally had the opportunity to eat a smaller tiger fall into its lap, or those 12 tigers fucked up bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_versus_lion#In_captivity
recorded fights seem to be pretty evenly split
Two similar animals with a lot of size overlap and similarities in behaviour/anatomy don’t have a clear advantage over the other, whoda thunkit
these don't include siberian tigers
Royal bengal tigger?
bro whuts ro-yal bout tigers
comin from bros who marry frogs and shit to get rain to fall
lions be KANGZ
They'd get BTFOed by the sun.
>tiger goes into lion cage
>one swipe
>lion is dead
catching lion off guard is the only way tigerfags win
moar loin pictures pls
or tigs, whichever you like
its evening in merica so theres that
LIONHEARTED !!!
Lion vs. Lion's weight in bees
The retardation is astounding. Anybody who uses “Le animal trainer said lion wins” as an argument is fucking stupid. The same goes for people who say the tiger will obliterate the lion. Lions are not game bred nor are they a whole lot more vicious and combative, tigers are not 200 pounds heavier than lions. It depends entirely on the individual and is very circumstantial. This argument has been fought to death on shitholes like Carnivora forum and even on wikipedia because people with nothing better to do can’t seem to comprehend that their favourite cat won’t dominate the other. Stop attaching your egos to animals
>Le animal trainer said lion wins
it's what they see from experience what counts. if a trainer has seen multiple animals fight with one animal having a better outcome it's obviously a big factor in these debates
>if a trainer has seen multiple animals fight with one animal having a better outcome it's obviously a big factor in these debates
Or on the other hand they could be full of shit, which they often are
Which is why he said "factor" not "proof"
Discovery channel already settled this years ago
Tigers clear easily
Tigers are strong but they always hunt weak shit. Lions get in fights to the death often. Both are amazing creatures, but the lion would just take it I think
>Bengal tigers primarily hunt larger mammals including deer, wild boar, cattle and goats
>The Siberian Tiger's favourite foods include elk, deer, wild boar, lynx and bear; wild boar makes up more than half of its diet
>Siberian Tiger's favourite foods include bear
Unless it's a cub, ain't no felid taking on any brown bear on this planet.
It usually is cubs or female bears, but they’ve been recorded taking bears bigger than themselves so it’s feasible a large tiger could take an adult brown bear
no, siberian tigers eat adult bears. they ambush the bear and sever its spine, usually by dropping on them from a height
idiot
bear simps somehow being more delusional than simps for either of the animals in the OP, impressive
Just recently a tiger has killed a big male brown bear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCWUe78VL5o
It's rare but can happen.
The comments say otherwise
Ah yes, the most reliable source
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qMHlL1VFHJg
Lionbros...
why are so many indians commenting
Indians vs Africans, who will win the debate?
Well let’s look at history. In the past bengal tigers and Asiatic lions shared India.
Caspian tigers and asiatic lions probably crossed paths in parts of Central Asia and the caucuses.
And way back in the Pleistocene Siberian tigers and cave lions probably bumped into each other occasionally.
I thought that this fight actually ended up happening a few times in the 18-1900s and the tiger universally merked the lion. A fuzzy neck poof isn't going to help you when the other guy has a good 200 pounds on you.
I always heard the lions consistently lost to tigers in the colisseum because lions hunt in packs while tigers are used to 1v1s like in the colisseum
Tigers don't weigh 200 pounds more. They both weigh around 400-500 pounds on average. Tigers don't like engaging in fights and end up being killed or dominated by lions.
Looks like Tigers suck even more because Tigers die to lions more often
depends on what species of tiger. bengal and siberian grow significantly larger than african lions.
equal height and weight i would probably bet on the lion just because they spend more time fighting, not just other lions but hyenas and wild dogs etc. i like tigers better tho
Lions will win. They fight more often than Tigers and have a higher mortality rate. Tigers usually fight as a last resort
i believe this but do you have mortality rate info?
yep. lol this is why they're called pitbulls of big cats
>and have a higher mortality rate
They die because they suck
siberian tigers eat bears. do you think a lion could eat a bear?
Lion wins. They've evolved a mane to protect their neck during their frequent fights, and they typically run down or straight up 1v1 their prey, tigers meanwhile are ambush predators and rarely, if ever, fight each other as adults
>They've evolved a mane to protect their neck during their frequent fights
retard spotted
also, male tigers literally compete with each other frequently for control of their territory lmao
Their mane wasn't evolved for protection but it helps.
Both are little kittens to be tinkered and played with by the greatest of apes.
SMASHED
tigers,of course
they are usually bigger and heavier
Tigers are bigger but not by much. Lions have a pitbull like combative mindset and fights more often
Lol just watched a video of a pitbull getting maxxed out and throttled by a chow chow
A tiger would obliterate a lion 1v1
Except 90% of animal trainers that have owned both animals will say a lion will own more often than not.
>the experts say
Yeah ok buddy, I'm going all on on the Tigger
>experts
Are you a schizo or something?
Not him, but the same people want you to believe that cutting off your penis makes you a woman and they give sterilize 10 year olds for the greater good.
I don't trust any of those "experts", be it biology or "psychology" (which is not even a real science if we follow the scientific method, but that's a whole another story).
Also, calling Internet opponents schizo is a liberal psyop to dismiss what they're saying without critically engaging with it.
>critically engaging
replying to lion and tiger anecdotes by pivoting to trannies and liberals and penises and psychology and groomers is 100% schizo in the derogatory sense, not, to be fair, the clinical sense; real schizos usually aren't so fucking boring
I'm not taking my meds and you can't force me to
How would you even know I'm schizophrenic if you aren't gangstalking me? I see you buddy
>experts
You are either a schizo or can't read
OK groomer
>no comment of experts anywhere
>resorts to npc response
Yep schizo
>1969
Yeah maybe don't trust what some boomer who had access to limited knowledge said.
Even freaking koreans have admitted lions beat up their tigers in everland
>source: my ass
that was a tibetan mastiff, not a chow. much bigger and more powerful dog than a chow.
every time they ever fight in captivity the tiger annihilates the lion.
but this obviously depends on the type of tiger. i don't know if a bengal tiger could take a lion, or the other two smaller ones. but a siberian tiger, the peak form of tiger, destroys.
>every time they ever fight in captivity the tiger annihilates the lion.
not even close. i'll post what the owner has to say next
most owners of both will always lean to the lion. lions are closest thing to game bred wild animals
Lions. Male lions make 20 hyenas their bitch
There's a circus that had big cats where a tiger escaped his enclosure, went to the other enclosures and killed about everything even the male lion.
So no, tigers win, they're far stronger.
>far stronger
they're about the same. some have small advantages but a lion is like a fighting dog.
I'd add to this that lions, being social animals, are probably more accustomed to fighting other big cats.
>a lion is like a fighting dog.
It’s not like that in the slightest
Only if there are multiple male lions. A single lion can’t take on that many hyenas by himself
single handily most small dick energy video ive seen.