They're doing it Posted on August 10, 2022 by Anonymous they're fucking bringing them back LET'S FUCKING GO
There's no biome around that can yupport Mammoths, where do they intend to keep them? The Pleistocene Park?
YOUR SCIENTISTS WERE SO CAUGHT UP IN WHETHER OR NOT THEY COULD THEY COULDN'T STOP TO THINK WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD or the rape of the natural world.
at least scientists are cool
not all but duh
that said they should probably not keep them in the desert, that's obvious
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at least it's not about someone's opinion though
Yes let's go
No point if we don't get to eat them like our ancestors.
A "startup" is just a guy collecting money from gullible idiots.
So they are thinking about it loudly for the 100th time?
If you actually read the mission statement by the company, they're not bringing back mammoths. Sadly, the science isn't there yet, even with totally mummified remains the dna has still decayed due to cosmic rays and microbes.
They're using CRISPR to gene-edit asian elephants into mammoth-like elephants. Replacing large flappy ears with small ears adapted for cold climates, adding cold- resistant haemoglobin, 12 inch thick hides of fur. And it's already been done.
The hard part that requires a lot of money and tech is incubating the mammoth embryo to life.
They're not dropping them in Texas as some sick zoo experience, like Jurassic Park, they're going to be dropped in what's left of Mammoth's original habitat, the mammoth steppe, in Siberia, with hope of restoring that ecosystem to stop the perma-frost from thawing.
And then once the mammoths are back, alongside musk ox, plains bison to replace giant steppe bison, wild horses, moose, elk and deer, they'll add predators like, wolves, amur tigers, leopards and polar bears/1.
/2 The predators will be there to corral the herbivores into herds and to keep them moving so they don't just stay in one spot over grazing like livestock.
So essentially they're building an ecosystem with the biodiversity of the serengeti from the ground up, whilst being twice as large.
There's even hopes that if the science can catch up, they could introduce cave lions, short-faced bears, steppe-bison, aurochs and even dire wolves.
It's actually a really beautiful thing imo.
>They're using CRISPR to gene-edit asian elephants into mammoth-like elephants. Replacing large flappy ears with small ears adapted for cold climates, adding cold- resistant haemoglobin, 12 inch thick hides of fur.
So can we do this shit already with CRISPR? Can we just edit animals and give them different traits, like giving a mouse smaller ears and shaggy hair? If not, starting with fucking elephants as the first project sounds like the most retarded shit
Yeah we can, the science is already there and it's the easy part. What's difficult is combining the edited genes into a viable embryo, and carrying it to term.
The best way to carry them to term would be using elephants, asian or african, sadly they're threatened species and no one wants to waste an elephant's long pregnancy time on animals that won't aid in the species' survival.
So they'd have to develop tech to artificially grow a mammoth embryo for 22 whole months. It's been done before with mice and dolly the sheep, but mice and sheep pregnancies are far shorter.
I think my question isn't if we can, but if we really have done it before. Have we already used something like CRISPR to produce a mouse that looks as different from a normal mouse as a mammoth looks from an elephant?
Because if not, this seems way too theoretical and still more like a pipedream.
And like you said, trying this shit with an elephant seems way harder, so why start there?
while you've got the crisper microwave running could you give me a 13 inch long prehensile penis with a sheathe and a knot?
>They're not dropping them in Texas as some sick zoo experience, like Jurassic Park, they're going to be dropped in what's left of Mammoth's original habitat, the mammoth steppe, in Siberia
I’m awaiting the inevitable news of them getting killed by Russian peasants.
>most iconic of extinct animals
they are bringing back dinosaurs?
I heard the same thing in the 80s. I'll believe it when I see it and if it lives longer than Dolly
>no one linking the company
They're not, because it's impossible. DNA isn't everything. You need the cellular environment. An elephant cell is not enough.
>asian elephant with some genes to grow more hair
this is not a mammoth, this is a fucking chud elephant
chud isn't the new gay
it's pretty specific
you should use the dictionary
it's ma'amoth, you bigot
>Getting a decents night sleep before work
>THOOM THOOM THOOM
>Wake up to plates fall out of kitchen cabinets
>THOOM THOOM THOOM
>cats freaking out
>Look out window
>Mfw it's a fucking wooly mammoth again
Flash news report of a mammoth stampede down a major highway. We asked for this.
It's just a waste of money bringing something back to a world it literally wasn't made for. We have elephants.
Not necessarily. This research is important to potentially bring back animals that are going extinct faster than we can reverse climate change.
You don't see how this could open the door for all de extinction efforts? After the mammoth, then the passenger pigoen, the carolina parakeet, the steppe bison, the aurochs, cave lions, and other animals we made go extinct.
Doesn't it end up as a half elephant mutt though?
56% mammoth, to be exact.
So it's more like a wooly elephant. Great job. And who's paying for this?
They wont get anything done
koreans are already far more advanced in their mammoth cloning project than texoids could ever hope
>the most iconic of extinct animals
That's not a T-rex retard
good luck making them survive when their natural habitat and food fields dont exist anymore
a man moth?!
The hubris of man. What could go wrong? Scientists really are fucking retards, no one should respect these money hungry worms.
>What could go wrong
What could go wrong? Jurassic park with mammoths? It's a harmless exercise.
Also, "the hubris of man" has given of lots of wonderful things. Like control of fire.
the cultivation of fire and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
Oh yeah, I hate nutrition and not freezing to death.
the entire scientific community worldwide should be working together exclusively to try and undo as much as possible the destruction humans caused on earth, anything else is stupid
That's easy. Less, more intelligent humans. Quality over quantity.
Sterilize anyone with an IQ below 100. Strain on resources over, no more idiots letting corporations get away with mass pollution.
Practically impossible but I came up with an alternative: let's put a substance that causes infertility in all fast food
>sterilize all college students and scientists
>world of upper lower class midwits that need hellofresh to survive ensues
>all scientists eat fast food
Yeah we do. Do you know how much most of us work and how little we get paid or do you think we all have private islands with laser cannons protecting the hidden hangars for our personal flying saucers
That doesn't stop the Africans from multiplying like vermin.
not every dumbass eats fast food, plenty cook
and besides the point, it wouldn't work until after automation in which point it would be pointless unless you're aimin to solve overpopulation without cutting foreign aid; basically positive eugenics would be a lot more beneficial
Our testosterone is already plummeting and we're having much fewer kids than we used to in the past.
That's what they're trying to do retard. Bring back an animal humans played a large role in exterminating.
are you too lazy to use a search engine
What's more efficient, OP posting the link or 45 different posters having to manually look it up?
Ah can't wait for some old fucking virus to kill us all. How would it be called though
Humans are well overdue to have a virus wipe us out. Covid was just the harbinger for things to come.
We're growing way too dependent on anti biotics and vaccines, and seeing as we are the most dominant life form it isn't too far fetched to believe that a super virus will evolve in the next hundred years to wipe us out.
>inb4 as a side product there will be some stone agevirus and everyone will get fucked
I had a tabletop setting like this where glyptodons ended up having mega leprosy. Was fun.
Idk how mammoths would fit in with nature given all that's changed and how long they've been gone.
Would love to see something like the Carolina Parakeet brought back though. Or giant flocks of passenger pigeons
Why would anyone do this? If they want to revive something, they should bring back the passenger pigeon or Steller’s sea cow, not prehistoric bullshit.
Stellar's Sea Cow was on it's last (metaphoric) legs when found by Stellar's expedition. With how easy it is to hunt, how easy it would probably die to modern ship and propeller strikes, and how the fragile kelp ecosystems it depends on have probably adapted to its absence, it could probably only live in captivity.
Also there might not exist a big enough womb
but that wouldnt get the SCIENCE XDD investors
What kind of arbitrary distinction is that? Mammoths didn't even go extinct that long ago in the grand scheme of things. Why not revive the most popular animal?
This but they're right
Because it’s fucking stupid.
Nobody has ever cloned a bird, or an extinct species.
we don't know how to bring back either of those animals. We don't know how to bring back mammoths either, but I'd guess they'll just change a couple genes of an elephant and call it a mammoth.
We can make a mammoth gene egg and cross it with an elephant, then it's a matter of breeding the mammoth genetic expressions back in over time.
Elephants breed slowly though, so it'll take a while.
There is no reason to do something like that.
There's no reason to make music, but we still do it a lot. Mammoths are cool, simple as.
Mammoths are gay and so are you.
it will increase the gene pool for asian elephants
the cats, elephants, rhinos etc. all have tiny pools and it puts them at greater risk
we can't fuck with the apes because muh humanity
some people might say to jsut let nature take its course but then how many decent predators are left to regulate the herds?
places with no predators are also a greater risk of collapses
It appears there is a lot more work to do, if it's even possible with our technology (see below) Breeding these genes in/out will take thousands of years. What kind of animals will be around then?
>Several genetic engineering projects aimed at de-extinction of the woolly mammoth are currently ongoing (Shapiro, 2017). These are based on editing the genomes of living cells from Asian elephants, using for example CRISPR-Cas9 technology (Shapiro, 2017). Our results demonstrate that, should genome engineering be applied to extant elephants in order to recreate a woolly mammoth, a remarkable number of deletion and indel variants would have to be included in the editing process. We show that several genes with potentially important functions have been affected by these variants and it is likely that these genes would have consequences for the resulting biology of a resurrected “woolly mammoth”. Functional genetic pathways involved in fat distributions, fur growth, skeletal morphology, and behavior, are potentially critical to surviving in its natural or natural-like environment. Therefore, not including such genome edits could potentially preclude reintroduction and survival of a resurrected woolly mammoth in its natural habitat.
Why can't we do both. Also passenger pigeon de extinction is actually well under way itself and there's a plan to reintroduce them.
there is already a project dedicated to bringing back the passenger pigeon
Hasn't Jurassic Park taught them anywhere?
Its okay, they’re megafauna. You can just kill them all if they start bothering you
>the most iconic of extinct animals
They're reviving the T-REX?
how tf are woolly mammoths going to survive texas heat
they'll shear em
mammoths lived clear down through mexico and into central america
texas is well within its native range.
Texas had a cooler climate back then
>Texas had a cooler climate back then
no it didn't, but don't bother learning stuff.
>As Texas’ climate changed at the end of the Ice Age about 7,000 years ago, inhabitants adapted. Apparently the state experienced an extended period of warming and drying, and the population during the Archaic period increased.
>As ice age animals became extinct and the climate began to change, the lifestyles of people living in Texas evolved.
>Toward the end of the Paleoindian period, the climate began to warm. Archaeological evidence suggests people began to expand their resource base and processing techniques, focusing more on hunting smaller game, such as deer, turkey, and rabbit.
IDK seems like my education on the topic is not too bad...
For everyone else itt, I think this pic demonstrates an issue beyond temperature, namely the types of vegetation available. Will there be enough plant matter to support herds of mammoth? Maybe over a smaller range?
Says nothing about temperature.
Also doesn't explain mammoths in Mexican and Central American deserts.
I've provided three sources that explicitly mention warming ~7k YA. You didn't even respond to the one source I provided that merely implied warming. No, you clicked on one that specifically said "warming" and claimed there was no discussion of temperature. You're simply wasting our time. Go ahead and believe what you want, IDGAF.
wish we'd find a way to bring back mastadon instead since they actually are browsers and not grazers. herds of pacific mastadon would be great for the environment out here in Nor Cal since they would help open upon the forests.
Weren't those Columbian mammoths, not Woolly Mammoths? Columbian mammoths were basically just African Elephant sized Indian Elephants. Plus, we have DNA of Wolly Mammoths not of Columbian mammoths.
If you read the article you'd see they don't actually plan on bringing mammoths back to texas, that would be retarded.
They plan on collaborating with Pleistocene park in an attempt to return them to their original ecosystem, the mammoth steppe, in an effort to combat climate change and restore the siberian ecosystem.
Libtards BTFO yet again
>Libtards BTFO yet again
you understand the instant Texass advertised its low taxes to corporate murrica, they got bought out by libs, right?
that's our next California right there.
whatever, as long as they can decide whether they want to be libertarian or authortarian. that shit is giving me whiplash
>verification not required.
That's not a picture of a tyrannosaurus rex
I wish it was possible for some schizo scientist to revive a ton of Mosasaurus or some ancient ocean monster and let them lose without telling anyone. Would be hilarious to watch the news about monsters terrorizing the oceans and proving Loch Ness schizos right.
In the future I imagine we'll be able to make replicas of them out of monitors.
Oh and don't forget, monitors are capable of parthenogenesis. So even one specimen can become a bunch if (when!) they ever escape.
How is it not possible already? They can 3d print meat right you can 3d print these things and let them loose.
only life begets life
We dont have their DNA and we need existing DNA to create similar creatures, splicing genes and playing god is still a very difficult process, specially if you want to make a new creature from scratch. I can imagine
this anons suggestion, Monitors are savages, if you converted them into massive aquatic creatures, they would be insanely dangerous for humans, as they can easily hide under the ocean and stay hidden if humans want to retaliate and hunt them all after many die to attacks, releasing a giant one in Loch ness would definitely provide infinite lulz
Also, that same scientist needs to revive gigantopithecus and release him in a random Northwest forest, watch Bigfoot schizos proven right
bigfoot is real, just cause you dont hang in the woods at night don't make him not real. I don't camp much anymore cause of what I've seen.
Not that anon, but I'd love to hear the stories about your encounters with them
Sasquatch is real.
>suits cant skew the apparent proportions
Looks like a fat guy in a suit with poorly articulated ankles.
They'd go extinct again within 3 generations.
Yeah, sure. Mosasaurs doesn't care about being flipped on their back like sharks and they aren't inoffensive like whales. A mosasaur would completely destroy a pod of type A killer whales, they weren't supposed to go extinct they were the perfect marine predators, in the same way as tyrannosaurus is the perfect land predator.
Reintroduction of such an animal in the wild is highly irresponsible. Wild Animals that can potentially disrupt balance in the ecosystems should not be introduced in the wild.
BORING AS FUCK
introducing a meteor or a volcano or whatever the fuck was highly irresponsible.
bring them back
This happens all the time naturally. Things change, species can't adapt and die. Why would a man-made change be any different?
why would you intentionally rock the boat for no benefit?
>would completely destroy a pod of type A killer whales
Could it? Yes. Would it? Fuck no. No predator is going to stick around and risk getting hurt, especially when it's outnumbered. Orcas, as the Aryans of the sea, would quickly figure this out and start ganging up on them and potentially even start disrupting their hunts.
Why would they eradicate their food sources? Remember, these are the Aryans of the sea we're talking about.
No they wouldn't lol. You clearly don't understand how inhospitable our world is to mosasaurs anymore.
>Our planet is a lot cooler, therefore a cold blooded marine reptile in the ocean could potentially freeze to death.
>Mosasaurs primary prey animals, ammonites, plesiosaurs and large sea turtles are all extinct. The prey that's present now is far too agile and small to sustain such large animals.
>They were also solitary animals, a pod of orca had been recored to hunt animals as large as blue whales, so a solitary animal half the size of one would pose a non-existent threat to them.
they would have a range that was limited to the tropics dude. Mosasaurs were from a much warmer world and hunted very different prey. I love Mosasaurs, but unless they end up having an extremely venomous bite like other members of Toxicofera, they are absolutely fucked in a battle against a pod of orcas.
>they were the perfect marine predators, in the same way as tyrannosaurus is the perfect land predator.
that's why orcas have eradicated other whales and sharks, right?
well I'm not seeing any large shark species
Sharks are no longer the primary predators of the ocean anymore and even the largest species will run away at the slightest whiff of orca.
Most whales are of a similar size and live in pods, so hunting them is very difficult.
moray eels are basically small fish version of mosasaurs. If you made a giant moray eel and gave it flippers and scales it would be a mosasaur
Genetically modify a water monitor to 12m and with fins.
theyre bringing back dodos?
even the chinese wolves have chinky eyes
Check out the monkeys over there that are rare. I forget the name, they live in the DBZ mountain area. They also look like chinks. What's up wit that? Aliens created chinks from the animals around them?
in the 19th century they thought that whites evolved from chimps, chinese evolved from monkeys and blacks evolved from gorillas
From what did Indians evolved from?
Murica here, our indians evolved from mixing red clay and booze.
[Spoiler] Poo [/Spoiler]
No they didn't.
>source: my ass
your source is a crack pipe
Nah, the miscellaneous races are descended from the 10 lost tribes of isreal, including the peoples of tartary.
Stop garden gnome posting, also it's israel
>we waz garden gnomez
>implying toasters aren’t a higher form of life than Poles
It's implying that they are
It’s the dry cold winds of the steppe that cause that face
that's called evolution. Environment influences its population over generations thanks to natural selections. It's not so surprising that primates living in the same area would develop similar traits.
its almost like living beings are shaped by the environment and not the pre planned
They keep saying that but so far they've been lying, at least when it comes to the time it takes
Two more weeks.
Lurk a year before posting newfag.