Season 2 leak, new trex scenes: >T.rex doing a mud bath with a cheerful music >T.rex being intimidated by an hadrosaur >T.rex sleeping during 5 minutes
I hate the speculative bits so much in Prehistoric Planet. Why do all the dinosaurs acts like tropical modern birds? Muh guy with glasses and big forehead said that dinasaouar will be no longer portrayed like "monsters"! Muh Youtuber with feathered raptor profile picture said that it was accurate so i trust him, WWD was shit haha 25 meters liapleuradon??? Bullshit, the truth is in Prehistoric Planet! Shitposting aside, PP is really aimed toward depicting dinosaurs like gentle Disney creatures and it is also as inaccurate as WWD. The first scene with the swimming rex is already fiction, for the sake of portraying dinosaurs differently.
Why would it not be able to swim? Most large animals are capable swimmers and we know terrestrial theropods could swim. It is more unrealistic to believe that it couldn’t
Let's see shall we. Hippo can swim because entire body had evolved to do so. Elephant can walk along bottom and use the trunk to breathe but not really swimming. Rhino avoid the water. Well these are four footed animal. The ape can all swim including human why? Because of the arms. And flat like feet help to paddle. Ok ok how about the birds? Well ones with wings use them to paddle. Ducks had webbed feet. Ostritch and such avoid swimming altogether but will use their wings to help. So T rex has two feet which are not webbed, useless arm that can't help him at swimming, not very fat to be insulated and no fur or feather, live in arid environment, and even the tail is stiff so worthless for paddling. So how is he swimming? I guess he stand on his tippy toes and poke his nose out of the water lol. Next you will claim that velociraptor was flying over mongolia like a vulture.
>Elephant can walk along bottom and use the trunk to breathe but not really swimming >google "swimming elephant." >videos of elephants swimming
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Lolno. They use their fat to be slightly buoyant. You will never see them dive or swim in the ocean. Infact they rarely even go into water deep enough to cover their back. Know why? Pressure on their lungs make it difficult to breathe.
>Elephant can walk along bottom and use the trunk to breathe but not really swimming
This is bullshit lmao. Elephants are fantastic swimmers and can island hop. Of all three that you mentioned the hippo is the only one that can’t swim >So T rex has two feet which are not webbed
Doesn’t matter, it’s legs are enormous and powerful. They don’t need to be webbed to swim. Nobody is saying it was semi aquatic >not very fat to be insulated and no fur or feather
No fur or feathers is a good thing as it wouldn’t get weighed down by water >live in arid environment
No it fucking didn’t. It lived in a pretty temperate region with forests and huge river deltas. Look up the biogeography of hell creek, you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about
Lolno. They use their fat to be slightly buoyant. You will never see them dive or swim in the ocean. Infact they rarely even go into water deep enough to cover their back. Know why? Pressure on their lungs make it difficult to breathe.
>You will never see them dive or swim in the ocean
Yeah sure lmao
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
In the your video human handler force the elephant to go in the water. You see how it struggles.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It doesn’t struggle. Elephants love the water, wild elephants do it too
Actually, due to their relatively high density they tend to punt under water rather than swimming, that said given they reach a lot of Mediterranean islands and fucking Madagascar in prehistoric times, they probably can still traverse deep stretches of water quite well.
> Elephants can walk along the bottom.
Nah, they're actually more buoyant than hippos, you are right about one thing, their trunk allows them to swim efficiently even if they can't keep their head afloat, which is probably why they are so proficient at sea crossing (pressumibly that how elephants and their relatives reach some of the more remote Mediterranean and SEA islands which were never quite connected to the main land.
> Rhino avoid the water.
That's african rhinos, Indian and Javan Rhinoceros are proficient swimmers and actually love spending time on water.
We have footprints that show that Theropods swam and living terrestrial birds are good swimmers (cassowaries spend a lot of time cooling and swimming in water), Tyrannosaurus range included wetlands and flooded forests which would become seasonally untraversable unless it could swim.
Let's see shall we. Hippo can swim because entire body had evolved to do so. Elephant can walk along bottom and use the trunk to breathe but not really swimming. Rhino avoid the water. Well these are four footed animal. The ape can all swim including human why? Because of the arms. And flat like feet help to paddle. Ok ok how about the birds? Well ones with wings use them to paddle. Ducks had webbed feet. Ostritch and such avoid swimming altogether but will use their wings to help. So T rex has two feet which are not webbed, useless arm that can't help him at swimming, not very fat to be insulated and no fur or feather, live in arid environment, and even the tail is stiff so worthless for paddling. So how is he swimming? I guess he stand on his tippy toes and poke his nose out of the water lol. Next you will claim that velociraptor was flying over mongolia like a vulture.
Lolno. They use their fat to be slightly buoyant. You will never see them dive or swim in the ocean. Infact they rarely even go into water deep enough to cover their back. Know why? Pressure on their lungs make it difficult to breathe.
In the your video human handler force the elephant to go in the water. You see how it struggles.
Why did this show cause such contention again?
I swear every single thing I heard about the show came packaged with some long as fuck schizo rant, that still managed to explain nothing.
My biggest hope for Season 2 is that there's more segments focused on smaller animals like insects and fish, documentaries like Planet Earth always have at least one segment focused on a tiny animal per episode so it feels conHispanicuously absent from this show. It was the only problem I had with the first season, the ammonite and lizard sequences were the only segments not focused on a dinosaur, pterosaur or marine reptile.
I have a dumb pet peeve about this series and it involved the whole Carnotaurus mating dance.
This concept was done years ago by Kosemen in the All Yesterdays book, using Majungasaurus as a model. Back then, it was a cool concept.
But now that it reached the more mainstream paleomedia, I see left and right these autistic manchildren gushing over it like “OH MY GOD THATS SO HECKIN WHOLESOME, THEY’RE JUST LIKE REAL ANIMALS” and turn it into yet another braindead “accurate” paleontology meme. I hate it so much.
>Back then, it was a cool concept.
Nah, it wasn't even cool back then (or even particuluarly likely imo), but yeah it was fine as a one-off bit of speculation.
But now we have dancing abelisaurids left and right and it's so painfully obvious how the idea started. You get one of these paleofags to come up with something and the rest all fall in line and meme it into redundancy overnight. They're all sharing the same brain with nary an original thought between them.
The worst part is, the whole theory around seeing strange features in skeletal fossils and saying that “it’s for display and sexual selection” is such a fucking meme that needs to die. It’s a lazy throw-away theory for every single thing these so called experts can’t explain.
For SKELETAL physical features to be used exclusively for sexual selection, it needs a high degree of variability between individuals AND also a clear presence/absence between sexes to imply sexual dimorphism. Usually, this shows not on the skeletal structure but on more volatile soft tissue (although exceptions exist in pterosaurs, for example, in which the crest size has a high degree of individual variability and is not a feature for the females). Why? Because sexually selective features are meant to be volatile and unstable, and the development is highly sensitive to lifestyle and nutritional availability. Because, you know, it serves as an INDICATOR to show how well-off the individual is and how fit it is to pass on its genes.
If it shows as a strange feature in a bone, and it shows no real variability between individuals, then it most likely serves a more practical purpose than just “durr display feature”.
Sorry, I just hate this mating display meme so much as a paleontology trope.
>Because sexually selective features are meant to be volatile and unstable, and the development is highly sensitive to lifestyle and nutritional availability. Because, you know, it serves as an INDICATOR to show how well-off the individual is and how fit it is to pass on its genes.
I might be retarded, but I never really understood that until just now. So, thanks for putting it in a really straightforward way.
Any guesses on what the function of dimetrodon sails was? >Can't be sexual, no sexual dimorphism, little variation, no living macro-predators I know of have elaborate visual displays because it is too much of a handicap >Temperature regulation theory just doesn't seem to add up in terms of biomechanics >Predator-deterrent seems very unlikely given that they were the apex predator in their environment >Not solid enough for muscle attachment and that wouldn't make any fucking sense biologically >Fat humps don't need support
Literally the only thing which I can think of is that they were some kind of weird camouflage to make them look like harmless edaphosaurids. I don't think that's a strategy any living tetrapod predator uses, but I've seen a spider which imitates ants in order to prey on them, and I think there are some fish which do similar.
Don’t listen to the other anons, you brought up some really good points. One thing I have to say though that yes predators also have a visual sexual display, but that anon is retarded for using lions as an example because (see the explanation I gave on the post you’re replied to).
That said, I don’t think the mimicry camouflage thing is a likely explanation. I think, depending on how hot the average temperature was during their time, thermoregulation is still the most likely practical use for their sail, especially considering that other animals during that time (such as the aforementioned Edaphosaurus) also have a similar feature. Think of basically how elephants use their ears to dissipate heat.
There’s also a possibility that Dimetrodon and the like were also synapsids before they evolved mechanisms for heat dissipation such as perspiration, so they evolved the vascular sails as a main way to dissipate heat. But this is all just guess work, so who knows what the true function was, but it certainly better than just “it’s for attracting the grills”.
>what was the purpose of Dimetrodon's sail >sail
It was for sailing. It's in the name you absolute imbecile.
Dimetrodon used its sail to propel itself across bodies of water, hunting fish and colonising far-flung islands.
>Can't be sexual, no sexual dimorphism, little variation, no living macro-predators I know of have elaborate visual displays because it is too much of a handicap
the problem with fossils, you cannot tell what is one species, because its very possible that different specimens were just sexually dimorphic of one species, or just a different phase of their life cycle, like anglerfish. it wouldnt follow any of the established conventions of extant animals, because they were one of the first predators on land, they were experimenting a lot since they dont have the 250 million years of adapting to living on land, they were fish 60 million years earlier
Where did all this just like real animals trash come from? Tigers are real animals they don't do gay shit, they hide in bamboo and eat porters. When they want to fuck they piss on a tree and wait. Even many birds don't do elaborate ballet dances.
It all started during the, I guess, the “enlightenment era” of paleontology which started at the late 2000s when people start wanting to depict dinosaurs as real animals and not just movie monsters. However, the paleofags who revolve their entire personality around the hobby wanted to feel smart and doubled down on this, spouting every single dinosaur “facts” which are really just contrarian pet theories to whatever their perception of “dinosaur pop culture” is, because they think subversion is cool.
>this one very specific group of birds in a very niche isolated environment in an isolated continent is a good representation for dinosaurs as a rule.
Look, I’m not denying the possible weird biodiversity of extinct animals and how weird they can get, you’re missing my point. But the trend of hyperfocusing on showing off “possible weird speculative traits” without any rime or reason other than just to say “oh dinosaurs are weird, just like this very specific niche modern animal!” is the reason why the average layman is so confused about dinosaurs.
> weird, just like this very specific niche modern animal
most of the things showed are not really niche, those are quite common tbh
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ducks are the most basal type of bird, closest to dinosaurs, and the majority of them just rape each other. Inb4 you cope with one of the handful of species out of hundreds that has a rudimentary mating display.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Ducks are the most basal type of bird, closest to dinosaurs >what are palaeognathae
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
And of the five extant species of your irrelevant petty argument only one of them dances around like a chud.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
One in five is a pretty big portion
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
They are more closely to ornithomimosaurs and oviraptorosaurs than to true birds.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You can say this as many times as you like, still doesn’t make it true
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
that would make them even more basal than other birds
Actually to give credit, Carnotaurus itself lived on an island continent. (South America was isolated at the time)
and unlike with tyrannosaurs or other theropods with "small" arms. Abelisaur arms were becoming vestigial and were definitely not used for anything like hunting, but they had a ball-and-socket joint so they could be rotated around a lot for whatever reason and they do show wear in that joint, so they used them for "something".
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>but they had a ball-and-socket joint so they could be rotated around a lot for whatever reason and they do show wear in that joint, so they used them for "something"
The fact abelisaur arms didn’t really shrink much over the entire time period they existed and they all had that same ball joint really seems to suggest they weren’t vestigial
3 weeks ago
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Also they're massive should girdles. Though granted, those might had more to with anchoring thoracic muscles and the gastralia to help the animal breath.
I feel like this show, being as mid as it is, just goes to show that Wauf is purely contrarian at heart and gigantically disingenuous. Everyone and their dog (that they rape) on this board was jacking this show off non-stop going "ZOMG IT'S A HECKIN SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO WWD!!11!", fast foward a month or 2 and every retard that was saying it was "good" are suddenly frothing at the mouth whenever it's brought up because 'woeknis' or something.
I do wish someone would go for wild early triassic shit at some point.
Still, I liked the show. Though they really need to fuck off with putting flight feathers on dromaesaurids exceeding the singledigit kg weight range.
And the Troodon fire segment was retarded.
The pterosaurs were great in every episode, though. No surprise, considering who's advising the show.
The plesiosaurs were great, too.
But yeah, Walking with Dinosaurs made more questionable decisions, but its storytelling is dramatically superior.
I watched the first episode and i disliked it, everything that was good in the Walking with series isn't in Prehistoric Planet. Atmosphere sucks, presentation is boring, they display famous animals like t-rex or mosasaurs doing uninteresting shit. No story telling, it is just a species showcase, they managed to make dinosaurs lifeless and dull. Also stop it with the late cretaceous, we already saw these dinos hundred of times before. I hope it will not be the template for future paleo documentaries.
I liked the series but completely agree on your points, WWD had a a much better presentation of the dinosaurs. Prehistoric Planet way of showing diferent dinosaur was boring and difficult to care about the individuals since we jumped every 10 minutes to a new animal.
They showed a lot of more species compared to WWD because of this format but lose a lot of the engagement with viewers. In WWD we followed and cared for the protusuchus female, the diploducus growing up, elderly ornitocheirus and more, all in one specific era and place in the Mesozoic.
And now we are still going to be stuck in the end cretaceous and there will be repeat species from season 1.
Paleontology and Archeology need their own damn board at this point. It's basically impossible to start a dinothread without some imbecile intentionally stirring shit because they're bored.
>go to Reddit >”feathers GOOD, scales BAD” >”guys I drew a dinosaur, is this LE ACCURATE?” >”idk bro, would be better if it’s more chonky” >”OH MY GOD YALL LOOK AT THIS NEW DISCOVERY THAT TOTALLY SUBVERTS OUR EXPECTATIONS, I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE” >”They look like REAL animals now!” >repeat ad infinitum
You know, for me, at least the conspiracy schizos of this board actually sparks arguments and make dinosaur discussions worthwhile. In reddit it’s always the same braindead shit parroted to oblivion that it’s just boring at this point.
They're keeping the series in the Maastrichtian and the Campanian for "muh accuracy and material" which I can sorta understand.
But goddamn dude I wanna see prehistory, not just the late cretaceous again for the 40 millionth time. Hope they do more non-dinosaur stuff since the pterosaur and marine reptile bits were easily the best parts.
Still want Triassic or Jurassic era stuff. Triassic episode in Walking With Dinosaurs is still objectively kino.
Even if it wasn't set too late for spino to appear, I dont think any documentary that wants to age even slightly okay, even within a few years, wants to touch Spinosaurus with a 16 meter pole.
Nobody seems to know what the fuck it is, its simultaneously incapable of walking on land while also being incapable of swimming, depending on who you ask.
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANNOT JUST MAKE THE TEE RECKS LOOK NOTHING LIKE IT DID IN MY FAVORITE HOLLYWOOD STEVEN garden gnomeBERG MOVIE! IT NEEDS TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE JP T-REX OR ELSE I'LL LITERALLY CRY AND KILL MYSELF, NOOOOO!
IMO, there are multiple lines of evidence that suggests the whole series was originally produced at the same time. Darren Naish was very cryptic in regards of sharing behind scenes information, which only made sense if the series was still in production.
We also have concept art that features species that haven't appeared yet, as well as some skeletals released by Scott Hartman for species which have so far not appeared in the series. Finally there was the leaked test footage that showed unfinished sfx and includes species and scenes that haven't been featured yet.
I'd wager the in location filming has been and scripting has been done for a while but the editing and sfx may still be being worked on.
So ask yourself which is really more likely here, that I went out of my way to use a VPN to samefag or that we're actually just 2 people?
One is the clear choice, but it involves admitting you're wrong so of course you won't do it.
>more end Cretaceous stuff
Fucking yawn, won't watch.
Season 2 leak, new trex scenes:
>T.rex doing a mud bath with a cheerful music
>T.rex being intimidated by an hadrosaur
>T.rex sleeping during 5 minutes
I hate the speculative bits so much in Prehistoric Planet. Why do all the dinosaurs acts like tropical modern birds? Muh guy with glasses and big forehead said that dinasaouar will be no longer portrayed like "monsters"! Muh Youtuber with feathered raptor profile picture said that it was accurate so i trust him, WWD was shit haha 25 meters liapleuradon??? Bullshit, the truth is in Prehistoric Planet! Shitposting aside, PP is really aimed toward depicting dinosaurs like gentle Disney creatures and it is also as inaccurate as WWD. The first scene with the swimming rex is already fiction, for the sake of portraying dinosaurs differently.
>The first scene with the swimming rex is already fiction
How?
How do you expect it to swim? I suppose nurex inflates itself like a baloon and floats to new lands huh?
Why would it not be able to swim? Most large animals are capable swimmers and we know terrestrial theropods could swim. It is more unrealistic to believe that it couldn’t
Let's see shall we. Hippo can swim because entire body had evolved to do so. Elephant can walk along bottom and use the trunk to breathe but not really swimming. Rhino avoid the water. Well these are four footed animal. The ape can all swim including human why? Because of the arms. And flat like feet help to paddle. Ok ok how about the birds? Well ones with wings use them to paddle. Ducks had webbed feet. Ostritch and such avoid swimming altogether but will use their wings to help. So T rex has two feet which are not webbed, useless arm that can't help him at swimming, not very fat to be insulated and no fur or feather, live in arid environment, and even the tail is stiff so worthless for paddling. So how is he swimming? I guess he stand on his tippy toes and poke his nose out of the water lol. Next you will claim that velociraptor was flying over mongolia like a vulture.
>Elephant can walk along bottom and use the trunk to breathe but not really swimming
>google "swimming elephant."
>videos of elephants swimming
Lolno. They use their fat to be slightly buoyant. You will never see them dive or swim in the ocean. Infact they rarely even go into water deep enough to cover their back. Know why? Pressure on their lungs make it difficult to breathe.
>Elephant can walk along bottom and use the trunk to breathe but not really swimming
This is bullshit lmao. Elephants are fantastic swimmers and can island hop. Of all three that you mentioned the hippo is the only one that can’t swim
>So T rex has two feet which are not webbed
Doesn’t matter, it’s legs are enormous and powerful. They don’t need to be webbed to swim. Nobody is saying it was semi aquatic
>not very fat to be insulated and no fur or feather
No fur or feathers is a good thing as it wouldn’t get weighed down by water
>live in arid environment
No it fucking didn’t. It lived in a pretty temperate region with forests and huge river deltas. Look up the biogeography of hell creek, you have no fucking idea what you’re talking about
>You will never see them dive or swim in the ocean
Yeah sure lmao
In the your video human handler force the elephant to go in the water. You see how it struggles.
It doesn’t struggle. Elephants love the water, wild elephants do it too
> Hippo can swim.
Actually, due to their relatively high density they tend to punt under water rather than swimming, that said given they reach a lot of Mediterranean islands and fucking Madagascar in prehistoric times, they probably can still traverse deep stretches of water quite well.
> Elephants can walk along the bottom.
Nah, they're actually more buoyant than hippos, you are right about one thing, their trunk allows them to swim efficiently even if they can't keep their head afloat, which is probably why they are so proficient at sea crossing (pressumibly that how elephants and their relatives reach some of the more remote Mediterranean and SEA islands which were never quite connected to the main land.
> Rhino avoid the water.
That's african rhinos, Indian and Javan Rhinoceros are proficient swimmers and actually love spending time on water.
We have footprints that show that Theropods swam and living terrestrial birds are good swimmers (cassowaries spend a lot of time cooling and swimming in water), Tyrannosaurus range included wetlands and flooded forests which would become seasonally untraversable unless it could swim.
He can handstand when he needs to
You’re retarded
Why did this show cause such contention again?
I swear every single thing I heard about the show came packaged with some long as fuck schizo rant, that still managed to explain nothing.
>Why did this show cause such contention again?
Schizo didn’t like how the dinos looked
is it a coincidence that as dinosaurs appeared in media as feathered, more kids became trannies?
i dont think so
My biggest hope for Season 2 is that there's more segments focused on smaller animals like insects and fish, documentaries like Planet Earth always have at least one segment focused on a tiny animal per episode so it feels conHispanicuously absent from this show. It was the only problem I had with the first season, the ammonite and lizard sequences were the only segments not focused on a dinosaur, pterosaur or marine reptile.
Oh, hey, that's that dinosaur they found a perfect mummy of, isn't it? What are the odds of someday finding a mummified T-Rex?
>What are the odds of someday finding a mummified T-Rex?
one was found over a decade ago
You don’t mean the one all the creationists latched on to because it apparently had intact soft tissue do you
No. Its related in the same suborder, tho
oh god the Wauf autist are gonna go wild again
I have a dumb pet peeve about this series and it involved the whole Carnotaurus mating dance.
This concept was done years ago by Kosemen in the All Yesterdays book, using Majungasaurus as a model. Back then, it was a cool concept.
But now that it reached the more mainstream paleomedia, I see left and right these autistic manchildren gushing over it like “OH MY GOD THATS SO HECKIN WHOLESOME, THEY’RE JUST LIKE REAL ANIMALS” and turn it into yet another braindead “accurate” paleontology meme. I hate it so much.
>Back then, it was a cool concept.
Nah, it wasn't even cool back then (or even particuluarly likely imo), but yeah it was fine as a one-off bit of speculation.
But now we have dancing abelisaurids left and right and it's so painfully obvious how the idea started. You get one of these paleofags to come up with something and the rest all fall in line and meme it into redundancy overnight. They're all sharing the same brain with nary an original thought between them.
The worst part is, the whole theory around seeing strange features in skeletal fossils and saying that “it’s for display and sexual selection” is such a fucking meme that needs to die. It’s a lazy throw-away theory for every single thing these so called experts can’t explain.
For SKELETAL physical features to be used exclusively for sexual selection, it needs a high degree of variability between individuals AND also a clear presence/absence between sexes to imply sexual dimorphism. Usually, this shows not on the skeletal structure but on more volatile soft tissue (although exceptions exist in pterosaurs, for example, in which the crest size has a high degree of individual variability and is not a feature for the females). Why? Because sexually selective features are meant to be volatile and unstable, and the development is highly sensitive to lifestyle and nutritional availability. Because, you know, it serves as an INDICATOR to show how well-off the individual is and how fit it is to pass on its genes.
If it shows as a strange feature in a bone, and it shows no real variability between individuals, then it most likely serves a more practical purpose than just “durr display feature”.
Sorry, I just hate this mating display meme so much as a paleontology trope.
>Because sexually selective features are meant to be volatile and unstable, and the development is highly sensitive to lifestyle and nutritional availability. Because, you know, it serves as an INDICATOR to show how well-off the individual is and how fit it is to pass on its genes.
I might be retarded, but I never really understood that until just now. So, thanks for putting it in a really straightforward way.
Any guesses on what the function of dimetrodon sails was?
>Can't be sexual, no sexual dimorphism, little variation, no living macro-predators I know of have elaborate visual displays because it is too much of a handicap
>Temperature regulation theory just doesn't seem to add up in terms of biomechanics
>Predator-deterrent seems very unlikely given that they were the apex predator in their environment
>Not solid enough for muscle attachment and that wouldn't make any fucking sense biologically
>Fat humps don't need support
Literally the only thing which I can think of is that they were some kind of weird camouflage to make them look like harmless edaphosaurids. I don't think that's a strategy any living tetrapod predator uses, but I've seen a spider which imitates ants in order to prey on them, and I think there are some fish which do similar.
>>Can't be sexual, no sexual dimorphism, little variation, no living macro-predators I know of have elaborate visual displays
you know very little
The lion's mane is not just a pointless display. It protects his neck, which is obviously of critical importance. Stupid catfucker.
You are quite literally an imbecile.
Don’t listen to the other anons, you brought up some really good points. One thing I have to say though that yes predators also have a visual sexual display, but that anon is retarded for using lions as an example because (see the explanation I gave on the post you’re replied to).
That said, I don’t think the mimicry camouflage thing is a likely explanation. I think, depending on how hot the average temperature was during their time, thermoregulation is still the most likely practical use for their sail, especially considering that other animals during that time (such as the aforementioned Edaphosaurus) also have a similar feature. Think of basically how elephants use their ears to dissipate heat.
There’s also a possibility that Dimetrodon and the like were also synapsids before they evolved mechanisms for heat dissipation such as perspiration, so they evolved the vascular sails as a main way to dissipate heat. But this is all just guess work, so who knows what the true function was, but it certainly better than just “it’s for attracting the grills”.
>what was the purpose of Dimetrodon's sail
>sail
It was for sailing. It's in the name you absolute imbecile.
Dimetrodon used its sail to propel itself across bodies of water, hunting fish and colonising far-flung islands.
Duh, of course. That was dumb of me, sorry.
>Can't be sexual, no sexual dimorphism, little variation, no living macro-predators I know of have elaborate visual displays because it is too much of a handicap
the problem with fossils, you cannot tell what is one species, because its very possible that different specimens were just sexually dimorphic of one species, or just a different phase of their life cycle, like anglerfish. it wouldnt follow any of the established conventions of extant animals, because they were one of the first predators on land, they were experimenting a lot since they dont have the 250 million years of adapting to living on land, they were fish 60 million years earlier
What if sphenacodons were just female dimetrodons?
Where did all this just like real animals trash come from? Tigers are real animals they don't do gay shit, they hide in bamboo and eat porters. When they want to fuck they piss on a tree and wait. Even many birds don't do elaborate ballet dances.
It all started during the, I guess, the “enlightenment era” of paleontology which started at the late 2000s when people start wanting to depict dinosaurs as real animals and not just movie monsters. However, the paleofags who revolve their entire personality around the hobby wanted to feel smart and doubled down on this, spouting every single dinosaur “facts” which are really just contrarian pet theories to whatever their perception of “dinosaur pop culture” is, because they think subversion is cool.
Have you never heard of a bird-of-paradise? For a board about Animals and Nature, you guys really don't seem to know much about Animals and Nature.
>this one very specific group of birds in a very niche isolated environment in an isolated continent is a good representation for dinosaurs as a rule.
Look, I’m not denying the possible weird biodiversity of extinct animals and how weird they can get, you’re missing my point. But the trend of hyperfocusing on showing off “possible weird speculative traits” without any rime or reason other than just to say “oh dinosaurs are weird, just like this very specific niche modern animal!” is the reason why the average layman is so confused about dinosaurs.
> weird, just like this very specific niche modern animal
most of the things showed are not really niche, those are quite common tbh
Ducks are the most basal type of bird, closest to dinosaurs, and the majority of them just rape each other. Inb4 you cope with one of the handful of species out of hundreds that has a rudimentary mating display.
>Ducks are the most basal type of bird, closest to dinosaurs
>what are palaeognathae
And of the five extant species of your irrelevant petty argument only one of them dances around like a chud.
One in five is a pretty big portion
They are more closely to ornithomimosaurs and oviraptorosaurs than to true birds.
You can say this as many times as you like, still doesn’t make it true
that would make them even more basal than other birds
Actually to give credit, Carnotaurus itself lived on an island continent. (South America was isolated at the time)
and unlike with tyrannosaurs or other theropods with "small" arms. Abelisaur arms were becoming vestigial and were definitely not used for anything like hunting, but they had a ball-and-socket joint so they could be rotated around a lot for whatever reason and they do show wear in that joint, so they used them for "something".
>but they had a ball-and-socket joint so they could be rotated around a lot for whatever reason and they do show wear in that joint, so they used them for "something"
The fact abelisaur arms didn’t really shrink much over the entire time period they existed and they all had that same ball joint really seems to suggest they weren’t vestigial
Also they're massive should girdles. Though granted, those might had more to with anchoring thoracic muscles and the gastralia to help the animal breath.
Tigers eat shit anon.
Literally, they deliberately eat shit.
I feel like this show, being as mid as it is, just goes to show that Wauf is purely contrarian at heart and gigantically disingenuous. Everyone and their dog (that they rape) on this board was jacking this show off non-stop going "ZOMG IT'S A HECKIN SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO WWD!!11!", fast foward a month or 2 and every retard that was saying it was "good" are suddenly frothing at the mouth whenever it's brought up because 'woeknis' or something.
Naish has said that the second season will feature a nonbinary Trex, btw.
Never liked dino documentaries as an 80s kid CGI always looked retarded to me.
Scientifically inaccurate stop motion dinosaurs are pure kino
Boring reatarded fantasy made by braindead s0ijaks pretending to be '''scientists'''. Not gonna watch or god forbid pay for it.
I do wish someone would go for wild early triassic shit at some point.
Still, I liked the show. Though they really need to fuck off with putting flight feathers on dromaesaurids exceeding the singledigit kg weight range.
And the Troodon fire segment was retarded.
The pterosaurs were great in every episode, though. No surprise, considering who's advising the show.
The plesiosaurs were great, too.
But yeah, Walking with Dinosaurs made more questionable decisions, but its storytelling is dramatically superior.
Dat show was so BORING.
watch jurassic world
I watched the first episode and i disliked it, everything that was good in the Walking with series isn't in Prehistoric Planet. Atmosphere sucks, presentation is boring, they display famous animals like t-rex or mosasaurs doing uninteresting shit. No story telling, it is just a species showcase, they managed to make dinosaurs lifeless and dull. Also stop it with the late cretaceous, we already saw these dinos hundred of times before. I hope it will not be the template for future paleo documentaries.
I liked the series but completely agree on your points, WWD had a a much better presentation of the dinosaurs. Prehistoric Planet way of showing diferent dinosaur was boring and difficult to care about the individuals since we jumped every 10 minutes to a new animal.
They showed a lot of more species compared to WWD because of this format but lose a lot of the engagement with viewers. In WWD we followed and cared for the protusuchus female, the diploducus growing up, elderly ornitocheirus and more, all in one specific era and place in the Mesozoic.
And now we are still going to be stuck in the end cretaceous and there will be repeat species from season 1.
>another portion of sPeCUlaTeD s0i-shit
Not interested.
Hand over every single life-reconstruction of all extinct species prior to the appearance of cave art.
The problem is passing off fantasy art as life reconstructions. The specevo guys are at least honest. Stick to fossils.
>Elden Ring DLC announced
>Prehistoric Planet season 2 announced
Finally, some good fucking news
Paleontology and Archeology need their own damn board at this point. It's basically impossible to start a dinothread without some imbecile intentionally stirring shit because they're bored.
that or go to reddit like i do, really no sense trying to have actual discussions or content on Wauf at this point
>go to Reddit
>”feathers GOOD, scales BAD”
>”guys I drew a dinosaur, is this LE ACCURATE?”
>”idk bro, would be better if it’s more chonky”
>”OH MY GOD YALL LOOK AT THIS NEW DISCOVERY THAT TOTALLY SUBVERTS OUR EXPECTATIONS, I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE”
>”They look like REAL animals now!”
>repeat ad infinitum
You know, for me, at least the conspiracy schizos of this board actually sparks arguments and make dinosaur discussions worthwhile. In reddit it’s always the same braindead shit parroted to oblivion that it’s just boring at this point.
you seem to know a lot about reddit, either that or youre making shit up
>crying about a website being an echochamber
...Do you not know what site you're on?
If you want serious discussion start a serious topic.
Oh boy! I can't wait for more heckin yummy-wummy REAL ANIMALS™!!
define "real animal" for us retard, we'll wait. Oh wait, you can't, they're dead.
Spinobros... is it our time yet?
>Make spinosaurus so overpowered he takes on fucking sauropods
>For some reason jobs to fucking RUGOPS
Unfortunately no
They're keeping the series in the Maastrichtian and the Campanian for "muh accuracy and material" which I can sorta understand.
But goddamn dude I wanna see prehistory, not just the late cretaceous again for the 40 millionth time. Hope they do more non-dinosaur stuff since the pterosaur and marine reptile bits were easily the best parts.
Still want Triassic or Jurassic era stuff. Triassic episode in Walking With Dinosaurs is still objectively kino.
>Triassic episode in Walking With Dinosaurs is still objectively kino.
this
talking about kino
I hope someone else produces the modern equivalent of walking with beasts eventually
We may get that if agate does well
Need a permian planet so bad
Even if it wasn't set too late for spino to appear, I dont think any documentary that wants to age even slightly okay, even within a few years, wants to touch Spinosaurus with a 16 meter pole.
Nobody seems to know what the fuck it is, its simultaneously incapable of walking on land while also being incapable of swimming, depending on who you ask.
I’m sure we all cannot wait to see a million threads from the dinofag crying his eyes out over some insignificant detail
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CANNOT JUST MAKE THE TEE RECKS LOOK NOTHING LIKE IT DID IN MY FAVORITE HOLLYWOOD STEVEN garden gnomeBERG MOVIE! IT NEEDS TO LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THE JP T-REX OR ELSE I'LL LITERALLY CRY AND KILL MYSELF, NOOOOO!
I'm just surprised they got Attenborough again. I thought they'd get someone else honestly.
Attenborough has no standards anymore, and I think he might be hurting for cash, considering all the cringe shit he's been doing in the last decade.
The shit that’s come out in the last decade has included some of the highest quality documentary productions ever. He’s doing just fine
What has Attenborough done that so bad in the last decade beside believe in something that the norm to believe in nowadays?
It probably was produced as a single season and split into two for release, as in Shitflix originals.
More likely they waited until the results of viewership numbers after first season released to see if they’d do a second
IMO, there are multiple lines of evidence that suggests the whole series was originally produced at the same time. Darren Naish was very cryptic in regards of sharing behind scenes information, which only made sense if the series was still in production.
We also have concept art that features species that haven't appeared yet, as well as some skeletals released by Scott Hartman for species which have so far not appeared in the series. Finally there was the leaked test footage that showed unfinished sfx and includes species and scenes that haven't been featured yet.
I'd wager the in location filming has been and scripting has been done for a while but the editing and sfx may still be being worked on.
nose tits
>May 22th
Nice, that is not that far into the future.
>not that far into the future
Are you sure it doesn't say 22 million years into the future?
Oh boy more heckin chonkers with feathers and neck waddles. Can't wait
>heckin
>heckin
...Here's your (You) samegay.
Yeah, different people who are both imitating the same group of people will tend to sound the same. Real mindblowing stuff, retard.
Anon-kun, it's not that hard to use a VPN, don't play dumb now.
So ask yourself which is really more likely here, that I went out of my way to use a VPN to samefag or that we're actually just 2 people?
One is the clear choice, but it involves admitting you're wrong so of course you won't do it.
the paleo-schizo (You)
resets his router 30 times a day to samefag the shit out of every dinosaur thread
we've all seen him (You) do it.
Shameful display.
Oh no! Dat retarded schizo buttsniffer is still retarded, still schizo and still sniffs butts. Unbelievable!
t. probably paleo-schizo (one of)
>no u
Thanks for admitting your concession 😉
Lurk more gay