No, it isn't. There is no contest. The bear is bigger, heavier, stronger, and has claws. There's no contest. No fight. You're just feeding a gorilla to a bear.
it really depends. a bear can beat an untrained gorilla no problem. the real difference is the capacity for tactics and training. a trained bear really only can hit harder. a trained gorilla will understand distancing and thrown weapons, height and terrain advantage, trained to focus on weak spots like joints, eyes, or groin. maybe 1 in 1000 gorillas will ever reach that effectiveness to go 1v1 against a bear but it has that chance to.
This isn't a shounen anime, it's real life. None of those animals is finna land a punch with a force to break a boulder, or just dodge, smile and decapitate the other with just the swipe of a paw. The fights gonna be just slaps and biting
Bear could break the gorillas neck with one paw swipe
If it comes down to biting the Gorilla has a much stronger bite. Brown bears max out in the 1200's while Silverbacks go north of 1300. If it is brute force we have no idea how durable a bear really is in regards to something physically harming it. I am talking about its neck/collarbone/ribs/spine etc.
There was a lowland male gorilla found with a massive python wrapped around its chest trying to kill it with its inches long fangs buried in its shoulder and the gorilla was just sitting there bored. I assume there was a struggle before but basically by the time the keepers found it, the gorilla had tired itself out or given up fighting since it could not really do anything. They tranq'd both and unravelled the snake and found superficial bite wounds and 0 damage to the gorillas bones in its arms back or chest. The gorilla literally was unaffected from the python death grip and was breathing without issue.
That same species of python has been observed killing lions the same way. Gorillas bones density and durability is much like their muscular make up - unparalleled in anything remotely its size. We have no such examples not including firearms to measure how strong the bones and resistant to damage a bear really is - say from an animal. Meanwhile Gorilla's are able to bend steel effortlessly and at the same time we have no idea how strong they really are since they almost never actually engage in combat and almost never to the death. Unlike chimps they are not attention seekers so we cannot even goad them with food and treat bribes to do stuff.
Gorilla bite force is a bit higher than a bears, but their mouth is also significantly smaller because bears have a muzzle while gorillas do not. A bear can just open it's mouth much, much wider than a gorilla can and therefore make much better use of it's bite.
Also, bears are so absurdly strong we've actually not been able to measure the upper limits of their strength. Partly this is due to different anatomy making it difficult to test, but also partly because every time a test was devised bears surpassed it without any real effort.
The gorilla has a stronger bite but would ultimately cause much less damage while biting. For starters the bear’s bite is only slightly less powerful, while also having much larger teeth and jaws. The way the bear’s neck attaches to its skull is also perfect for shaking to inflict horrific wounds on whatever it’s mauling, and they can generate enormous amounts of force with their neck muscles. Gorillas can’t. > The gorilla literally was unaffected from the python death grip and was breathing without issue.
If there were superficial bite marks from the python then it wasn’t a “massive python”. Their teeth aren’t even meant for causing damage anyways. The density of bones and muscles is irrelevant to whether or not the python can construct a prey item >Adolescent or older do not have natural predators.
Leopards >Honey badgers fuck up lions enough to chase an entire pride away
Not really. Honey badgers usually do their trademark moonwalk when confronted with a big predator
>and they can generate enormous amounts of force with their neck muscles
This is what people always forget about. If you've ever had guinea pigs you know how strong neck muscles in even little critters like that can be, imagine a 1000 lb bear throwing 2k lbs worth of force behind its bite. Zero contest, bear eviscerates the ape without even trying.
Bear could break the gorillas neck with one paw swipe
We know how much force a bear can produce roughly due to observing them with the intent to kill in nature. At the same time we know how durable, roughly, gorillas are. We do not know the opposites and there is no real way other than mistreatment to make a gorilla mad enough to want to hit or fight something with the intent to kill. We also have no way beyond torture to test the durability of a bear and there is no natural non bear equivalent in its habitat to stumble upon it naturally. With intent to kill the Gorilla - insofar unseen or recorded - might sink its fangs into the face of a bear and takes its eyes while holding the bears head and it could be mortally scratching and beating on the gorilla but it has never dealt with something that has the dexterity of an ape. A blind bear is as good as dead.
Who says the gorilla is going to allow its spine or head to be hit at all? We have 0 data on gorillas fighting an opponent to the death with intent to kill. Adolescent or older do not have natural predators.
>Inb4 weight and size difference
Honey badgers fuck up lions enough to chase an entire pride away - sometimes - or they get eaten - sometimes - If a bear false charged a gorilla who would in turn false charge maybe we would have an answer - until some oil billionaire funds it quite frankly no one has any idea and it could easily be tit for tat victories for each species in multiple fights.
Until then its just a "my dad can beat up your dad" Unless its a Kodiak bear then they win by default.
>We have 0 data on gorillas fighting an opponent to the death with intent to kill. Adolescent or older do not have natural predators.
There’s at least one record of a leopard and a male gorilla killing each other in a fight, as well as a couple other records of leopards hunting them
Just like most videos of pitbulls, the people who are attacked either have no survival instinct or are too hesitant and stupidly worried about the animal’s safety. We have two thumbs and are aware of the importance that eyes hold to a foe
There's just no fucking way. The strongest powerlifter in the world wouldn't be able to last half a minute against a gorilla. Their skulls and skin are several times harder than ours and they can rip small trees off the ground and bite with enough force to rip off an arm
Paddington vs Harambe
what do you fags dont get is that psi means stabbing force, you can deal lots of psi with a knife or needle
https://www.pctonline.com/article/-fact-or-fiction--the-tooth-of-the-rat/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1385299X03001168
>PSI means stabbing force
No it doesn't, you fucking moron.
its force divided by area, a bear biting your arm is gonna deal far more damage than a hobo stabbing your arm
Hasn't some rich saudi prince or something tried this already?
But what if gorilla had... a weapon? A big log it could use to clobber the bear with? Or a big rock? Could that help it in any way?
No, it isn't. There is no contest. The bear is bigger, heavier, stronger, and has claws. There's no contest. No fight. You're just feeding a gorilla to a bear.
>the image that divided Wauf
I loved hearing that guy scream while being eaten by a bear.
Nobody asked you, Bigfoot.
it really depends. a bear can beat an untrained gorilla no problem. the real difference is the capacity for tactics and training. a trained bear really only can hit harder. a trained gorilla will understand distancing and thrown weapons, height and terrain advantage, trained to focus on weak spots like joints, eyes, or groin. maybe 1 in 1000 gorillas will ever reach that effectiveness to go 1v1 against a bear but it has that chance to.
autism ladies and gentlemen
the day gorillas do strength training is the day we all lose to the apes
how to train your gorilla
The one with sharper fangs wins.
This isn't a shounen anime, it's real life. None of those animals is finna land a punch with a force to break a boulder, or just dodge, smile and decapitate the other with just the swipe of a paw. The fights gonna be just slaps and biting
Correct
This
is why the bear will win
If it comes down to biting the Gorilla has a much stronger bite. Brown bears max out in the 1200's while Silverbacks go north of 1300. If it is brute force we have no idea how durable a bear really is in regards to something physically harming it. I am talking about its neck/collarbone/ribs/spine etc.
There was a lowland male gorilla found with a massive python wrapped around its chest trying to kill it with its inches long fangs buried in its shoulder and the gorilla was just sitting there bored. I assume there was a struggle before but basically by the time the keepers found it, the gorilla had tired itself out or given up fighting since it could not really do anything. They tranq'd both and unravelled the snake and found superficial bite wounds and 0 damage to the gorillas bones in its arms back or chest. The gorilla literally was unaffected from the python death grip and was breathing without issue.
That same species of python has been observed killing lions the same way. Gorillas bones density and durability is much like their muscular make up - unparalleled in anything remotely its size. We have no such examples not including firearms to measure how strong the bones and resistant to damage a bear really is - say from an animal. Meanwhile Gorilla's are able to bend steel effortlessly and at the same time we have no idea how strong they really are since they almost never actually engage in combat and almost never to the death. Unlike chimps they are not attention seekers so we cannot even goad them with food and treat bribes to do stuff.
cont.
Gorilla bite force is a bit higher than a bears, but their mouth is also significantly smaller because bears have a muzzle while gorillas do not. A bear can just open it's mouth much, much wider than a gorilla can and therefore make much better use of it's bite.
Also, bears are so absurdly strong we've actually not been able to measure the upper limits of their strength. Partly this is due to different anatomy making it difficult to test, but also partly because every time a test was devised bears surpassed it without any real effort.
The gorilla has a stronger bite but would ultimately cause much less damage while biting. For starters the bear’s bite is only slightly less powerful, while also having much larger teeth and jaws. The way the bear’s neck attaches to its skull is also perfect for shaking to inflict horrific wounds on whatever it’s mauling, and they can generate enormous amounts of force with their neck muscles. Gorillas can’t.
> The gorilla literally was unaffected from the python death grip and was breathing without issue.
If there were superficial bite marks from the python then it wasn’t a “massive python”. Their teeth aren’t even meant for causing damage anyways. The density of bones and muscles is irrelevant to whether or not the python can construct a prey item
>Adolescent or older do not have natural predators.
Leopards
>Honey badgers fuck up lions enough to chase an entire pride away
Not really. Honey badgers usually do their trademark moonwalk when confronted with a big predator
>and they can generate enormous amounts of force with their neck muscles
This is what people always forget about. If you've ever had guinea pigs you know how strong neck muscles in even little critters like that can be, imagine a 1000 lb bear throwing 2k lbs worth of force behind its bite. Zero contest, bear eviscerates the ape without even trying.
We know how much force a bear can produce roughly due to observing them with the intent to kill in nature. At the same time we know how durable, roughly, gorillas are. We do not know the opposites and there is no real way other than mistreatment to make a gorilla mad enough to want to hit or fight something with the intent to kill. We also have no way beyond torture to test the durability of a bear and there is no natural non bear equivalent in its habitat to stumble upon it naturally. With intent to kill the Gorilla - insofar unseen or recorded - might sink its fangs into the face of a bear and takes its eyes while holding the bears head and it could be mortally scratching and beating on the gorilla but it has never dealt with something that has the dexterity of an ape. A blind bear is as good as dead.
Who says the gorilla is going to allow its spine or head to be hit at all? We have 0 data on gorillas fighting an opponent to the death with intent to kill. Adolescent or older do not have natural predators.
>Inb4 weight and size difference
Honey badgers fuck up lions enough to chase an entire pride away - sometimes - or they get eaten - sometimes - If a bear false charged a gorilla who would in turn false charge maybe we would have an answer - until some oil billionaire funds it quite frankly no one has any idea and it could easily be tit for tat victories for each species in multiple fights.
Until then its just a "my dad can beat up your dad" Unless its a Kodiak bear then they win by default.
>We have 0 data on gorillas fighting an opponent to the death with intent to kill. Adolescent or older do not have natural predators.
There’s at least one record of a leopard and a male gorilla killing each other in a fight, as well as a couple other records of leopards hunting them
Don't understand how anyone can think that the gorilla will win when it's half the size
Maybe because they'd smash the little bear bitches skull with one punch from 2000 pounds of force
Bear could break the gorillas neck with one paw swipe
Bear wins easy, as much as I want to root for gorilla.
Bear knows kung fu and thus wins by default
If I was a Saudi prince this fella would be my boy
Now post the one where the bear hits himself in the nards
whoever wins, we lose
who won when this pic was taken ?
oh brother
>giving these threads sincere responses
gorilla wins because he monke
Did it?
Could a 7 foot man beat a Gorilla?
That's a much more even fight. I want to say the man would win if he's well built and knows how to fight. But other than that, I'd bet on the gorilla.
If this 7 foot human was properly proportioned and not a lanklet, yeah.
A gorilla isn't just a scaled up chimp though though.
No. Because a 6 foot man can't beat a 5 foot chimp.
Just like most videos of pitbulls, the people who are attacked either have no survival instinct or are too hesitant and stupidly worried about the animal’s safety. We have two thumbs and are aware of the importance that eyes hold to a foe
Retarded pitbull shill.
>expecting small kids to manage to pierce a pitbulls eyes and dominate it
unless you have a weapon the chimp would have already ripped out your limbs before you could rip out its eyes
There's just no fucking way. The strongest powerlifter in the world wouldn't be able to last half a minute against a gorilla. Their skulls and skin are several times harder than ours and they can rip small trees off the ground and bite with enough force to rip off an arm
if the 7 foot man was as heavy and muscularly dense as a grizzly bear then yeah retard he could
No fucking idiot, do you have an idea of the difference in bone and skin density? Plus the wild factor? Plus the gorilla's fang?
As a gorilla enthusiast I think a beat would win
People sleep on the fact that the gorilla could just choke the bear to death.
Gorillas don't know jiu jitsu.
what does gay sex have to do with anything?
we should teach them
If only they knew how to do so
The bear wins in literally every fucking scenario. Only a retard who ignores facts would say that a fucking 300 pound monkey could kill a grizzly.