Should I spay my bitch?

I'm planning on getting a border collie bitch with my wife this year, is it worth spaying them?

From the bitches I've had, when they go into heat their hormones stink and they leave period blood everywhere.

That being said, spayed bitches don't seem to age well and they get fat?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >and they get fat?
    only if you overfeed them and don't let them get enough exercise.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah animals with functional organs removed use fewer calories, especially since testosterone and estrogen help mediate metabolism.

      A good question is, can a dog weigh the pros and cons of spaying and neutering? Would they rather risk set of cancers A, some of which are very breed dependent (mammary) and some of which aren't but are cured by a late neuter/spay (testicular/ovarian/uterine), or set of cancers B, which are more correlated with spay/neuter status than breed (blood vessel, lymph, bone, mast cell, etc)? Would they rather be intact even if they were a cancer ridden purebred? Did you ask them?

      Maybe if you ever truly meant it when you said animal consent matters and we shouldn't interfere with their junk if they can't understand what's going on, you should leave that shit alone unless you need to save their life, basically a reasonable compromise where "any reasonable talking dog would agree to this"

      if a reasonable female knew she would never, ever breed, would she want to keep a uterus that has a 25% chance of becoming infected and either killing her or coming out along with her ovaries, or give up just the uterus to have a better chance at keeping her youthful hormone levels?

      under what conditions would a reasonable male dog have himself neutered? surely he can suck his own dick?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Your bullshit 25% has like a single shitty ass article as source. My vet said that he can count on his finger how many times he has seen pyo in his 20y+ career

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My vet said 100% of intact female huskies die of pyometra and the first symptom is always milky white discharge that the owners never bring them in for

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            LARPing moralgay.

            Huskies have a very low rate of getting pyo and a "milky white discharge" can be completely normal. If it's open pyo, it will be a disgusting purulent discharge (it's a lot thicket than normal vaginal secretions and smells like death), and if it's closed pyo there's no discharge except the natural vaginal discharges (which indeed can be white, especially after heat or if they were stimulated).

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I thought he was fucking with us but it's partially true. One, the study only studied insured dogs in Sweden. So obviously you're not going to get the dogs owned by hicks who never see a vet but live until twelve. And two, it's highly breed dependent. When you factor in breeds, the percentage ranges from 10-24% over a ten year lifespan.
          Breeds most likely to get pyometra: rough Collies, Rottweilers, Cavalier King Charles Spaniels, Golden Retrievers, Bernese Mountain Dogs, and English Cocker Spaniels
          Breeds least likely to get it: Drevers, German Shepherd Dogs, Miniature Dachshunds, Dachshunds (normal size), and Swedish Hounds.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't even have a yard big enough to keep your dog while it's on heat to not make a mess, you shouldn't have a border collie. They aren't meant to be kept indoors.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      clarify by whom they arent mean to be kept indoors.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes get it spayed, a dog in heat is pretty gross.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      don't listen to , a neutered dog cannot be your dw. neutering is only beneficial for vets and PETA, not you. a neutered dog is the same as computer without access to internet.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go to your vet. Go to several vets. Don't take advice from anyone on this website. Seek the advice of experts

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vets don't have your best interest in mind. Neither do we really but you can't trust random people.
      Do your own research.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Just trust the experts!
      The experts in Medicine are trained to do some really fucked things by industry standard. Remember that in just a few years it became normal to lop off a human's nuts due to a psychological condition.
      In Europe, spay and neuter is uncommon. In the US, it's nearly ubiquitous, and the benefit isn't observable. That kind of difference can only be due to zealotry.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The vet told me that all the studies showing neutering helped were botched, low quality, or heavily skewed by an excess of golden retrievers and labs (notorious for high cancer rates) in the sample and that my husky would probably be fine if i waited until she was 5 to spay. They didn’t know about the OSS and agreed it was a good idea.

      Most vets are NPCs or used to dealing with them
      >MODEM NOISES
      >Spaying and neutering prevents pet. Overpopulation. Beeeeep. And stops pets. Boop beep. From roaming, fighting, and fucking. Beep. And they get. Beeep. Less cancer. Beeeeeeeeep boop. Based on a study that was biased towards breeds with bad genetics. Beep beep beep boop.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >botches, low quality, biased
        honestly this is every study in veterinary medicine

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trust the experts, get lobotomized, pay an arm and a leg and thank them for it.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah. Solves so many problems. There's no reason not to, frankly.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is a reason so i will never spay my dogwife

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Had 3 unspayed Finnish Lapphund bitches at one point;outside of them leaking a little bit of blood for a couple of days during the heat (and even then, most of the time they themselves licked it away from the floor) there never really were any issues with any of them. Well, the oldest one always had a false pregnancy period after each and every one of its heats, but that is pretty minor. Then again, I also live in a place where dogs aren't allowed to run free and 90% of the dog population aren't shitpulls that maul or fuck everything they see, so your experience could be a bit different.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my dog gushed blood until after i get her OSS

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don’t stink unless they’re sick rly. Dog period blood should smell like dog.

    Get an ovary sparing spay. A few hundred bucks more and they keep all the benefits of being intact but without the blood oozing uterus.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no, only Blackids spay their dogs

      What about when they're in heat? You can't take them out for walks because they'll just get raped

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Im an americhad so that’s an opportunity to shoot pitbulls. I got 3 last year. If you’re a felon you can just go out at odd hours and carry a baton or skip the walks and play in the yard. It’s more boring for you but still fun for dogs because they aren’t visual novelty seekers.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I got 3 last year.
          I wish this was real and not just the usual Wauf larp.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You sound very american. With supervision nobody should be able to rape your dog. And if bleeding is an issue in the house or you're a gay who can't stand the smell of a vag, you can get underwear with tampons for them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kys furfag

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kys humanoid fucker

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just kick the rapist dog in the balls.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          correct, no one could stole your dw's cookie

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, only Blackids spay their dogs

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I'm planning on getting a border collie bitch as my wife this year
    ftfy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Would

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