>quarter of all catalogued species already extinct
>wildlife population has decreased by 60 % worldwide since the 1970s
>87 % in South America alone
>quarter of all catalogued species already extinct
>quarter of all catalogued species already extinct
>wildlife population has decreased by 60 % worldwide since the 1970s
>87 % in South America alone
I hate nu-Wauf so much
elaborate gay
Sheeeeeit
We need more gibs, gib more billions for mah baby, i have 10 kids and have to buy coal from Congo
oh no there's red stuff on the map (I have no idea what it means)
The Sahara Desert grew by 10% in the last 100 years due to deforestation. White people and apparently Chinese are the only ones willing to geoscape
Third point is the only one that sounds believable, seems like South Americans not only want to kill each other, but ever being on their continent too
I hope it gets far worse and most of not all mammals are wiped out
>climate change
>humies
We all have to do as the leftists say or else the world ends, guys.
ya people think the end times are "muh lgbt" or whatever, meanwhile insects are erasing. wish I could erase humanity (and its stupid fucking cross contamination of environments, like crazy ants on christmas island or asian invasives in america etc)
>and its stupid fucking cross contamination of environments, like crazy ants on christmas island or asian invasives in america etc
Cringe. All those gay island ecosystems are hyper specialized and extremely vulnerable to getting completely destroyed by a single freak accident.
In the long run they will be better off with the new biota on them. Hawaii didn't have any true freshwater fish (anadromous fish don't count), and New Zealand only had gay retarded galaxiids until humans brought other fish from Eurasia and other places.
And in the case of North America, it's also better in the long run because the continent is still recovering from glaciation. Hence the low diversity of species the farther north you go and how stuff like armadillos are still expanding their range today.
Humans are just helping speed up the process of species migration and diversification.
Troll logic denies invasive species on an accelerated timescale
only good post
Extinction events are a bottleneck to clean the slate and allow for new variations and diversities based on the best and most surviving from the old stock.
It's the fire that nourishes the soil and allows the forest to grow stronger.
It takes millions of years to recover from a mass extinction event. It doesn't help that this one has a cause that isn't going away anytime soon.
There's no soil to nourish if we kept building Starbucks and highways over it.
>muh timescale
And?
Agreed.
There isn't enough variety in species alive right now to compare to the previous losses of diversity.
>And?
Because we're going to suffer from it and remain on life support. Unless you're one of those boring accelerationist/doomer types, it should concern you.
>Because we're going to suffer
And?
We're talking about evolution.
Evolution and what is good for it doesn't care if you suffer.
Hell, suffering might just be the next great thing and everyone will evolve to suffer a lot more.
>Evolution and what is good for it doesn't care if you suffer.
But I do, and most other people do too. If we want to avoid suffering maybe we should do something about it and not make things worse.
The fuck are you even arguing for anyway?
>nature doesn't give a fuck about you
Yes, and?
This is probably one of the most low IQ takes I've seen on Wauf which is saying a lot.
>And?
Time scale is the thing that matters, you getting your pay 5k years after you retire won't statisfy you either.
Yeah but I still would have liked to have seen a short faced bear in person.
This, humans are just the most recent extinction event like a fucking meteor or an ice age or something.
When I'm throwing industrial garbage into a nature reserve I'm not a lazy, greedy asshole, I'm just doing my part
Btw I'm trans if it wasn't obvious enough by my shortsightedness
Not true. We know from the fossils records that this one is much worse.
>the earth blows up
>100% of all life gone
>don't worry guys we're just wiping the slate clean
What you're describing happens over the course of millions of years. When humans destroy an environment and drive species to extinction over the course of a couple of generations, or even faster in modern times, they're not following the ways of nature, they're just making Earth not suitable for life, for any form of life aside from some weeds, bacteria and pathogens.
asteroids
supervolcanoes
etc
So what
Once enough species have died, the global ecosystem will collapse, and that means we will die.
Also I personally just find it nice to know things like blue whales or orangutans exist and it would be a shame if they didn't.
>Once enough species have died, the global ecosystem will collapse, and that means we will die.
uhhh... source, sweetie?
>guys if we don't put out that fire the house will burn down
>uuh source?
this unironically. who gives a ripe fart
>the global ecosystem will collapse
no it will just be replaced by an exciting new ecosystem full of exciting new niches for animals to speciate into. why be sad about that? I find it exciting
>I personally just find it nice to know things like blue whales or orangutans exist
why? are you personally just devastated that ankylosaurs no longer exist? if not, why do you give a shit if [currently extant species] goes extinct, except that you have a moron-tier time preference that irrationally favors the present moment over any other time periods?
>It takes millions of years to recover from a mass extinction event.
there's no 'recovering' from it. After an extinction event there are less species. After a while there are more species. There's no better or worse state. Why do you place a positive value on high quantity of species on earth? If house centipedes found an interesting new niche in your apartment that they decided to speciate into, would you be excited about this (because more species is more gooder) or would you be unhappy about being crowded out? Every species fights with every other species for space, food, water, resources. Why is it inherently better for there to be more species than less (that is, for there to be more competition, aggression, etc than less)
>this one is much worse.
it's not worse, it's not better. It's simply the magnitude that it is.
blessed post
>there's no 'recovering' from it
Yes, there is. Didn't bother reading the rest of your shit after reading that, kek
why do you assume more species = more gooder? it is an indefensible, present-anchored, low-time-preference, childish point of view.
You're an idiot.
Why do you assume fewer species = just as gooder? It is an indefensible, short-sighted, willfully ignorant, retard point of view.
>Why do you assume fewer species = just as gooder?
what leads you to presume I do? There is nothing inherently better or worse about having higher biodiversity/species count vs less. Or even none at all. You're the one with a bizarre, inexplicable hangup about preserving the heckin' biodiversity at the arbitrary levels it's at in [current day].
>be ocean
>be delicately balanced ecosystem
>every species has its niche
>humie comes along and kills a quarter of them
>ecosystem collapses
>no more plankton to eat
>fish die
>no more fish to eat
>most humies die
>ocean full of jellyfish
>no more algae
>no more oxygen production
>last humies die
Is that really such a hard concept to grasp? How is there still people around who don't understand that? Like, it's so simple and basic, even my 7-yo nephew gets it.
>hurr it's only a couple degrees warmer what's the deal?
Also, inb4
>hurr we will survive, just go and live on a private island with hydroponics and shit
Guess what, none of you retards are rich or intelligent enough to be considered worth saving. You will be among the billions of victims of climate change.
>hurr nature will recovery life finds a way™
Yes, over the course of tens of millions of years. Without humans.
If human behavior has taught me anything, most people won't care about a problem that's not staring them in the face at their doorstep. We are in most cases, the masters of too little too late.
No, humans don't care about problems, period. Humans will never change their behavior unless the alternative is cheaper, better, or more convenient than what they have now.
>We are in most cases, the masters of too little too late.
The current crisis in Europe regarding gas is exactly what I expect when the climate catastrophe hits us full fucking force.
>people knew this was gonna happen eventually
>still made deals with Putler in order to save two cents per kWh
>shit hits the fan
>Oh no, who could have known?
>weak politicians who are too cowardly for drastic action
>"We will watch developments with attentive eyes"
>make bullshit predictions regarding inflation
>4.5 % in March
>1 month later 5.5 %
>1 month later 7 %
>1 month later 8.9 %
>gee, why do people distrust our predictions?
>"We'll do everything in our power to raise our gas storage"
>"But first let's go on vacation for 2 months, politicians need free-time too heehee"
>great plans to get through this winter
>but noone talks about what happens next
>basically they all stick their heads in the sand and hope for the Ukraine situation to magically solve itself somehow
>same shit will start again next year, only worse
>delicately balanced ecosystem
No such thing.
Correct post.
I work in the field of ecological restoration but I know deep down that it is only my personal preference to want to save animals and ecosystems that I like, so it is for my own benefit (and the benefit of society when dealing with crop pests and ecosystem services) and not some greater good to ‘save’ nature in order to ‘restore balance’.
More speciation is better. Less chance of an extinction event wiping out life as a whole.