Pure evil and mankind's destructive potential at its peak.
Millions of mammals mative to the everglades practically extinct because some messed up in the head weirdo thought it'd be fun to have a mindless eating machine as a pet and had low enough IQ to release it into the wild where it's not native. And there were multiple of these types of "people" because those pythons bred in the wild.
This frustrates me greatly, knowing that at any moment the actions of a few retarded subhumans(who get to vote mind you, who get all the rights you do) can decimate entire ecosystems, with the lionfish as another example.
If you think owning a snake as a pet is a good idea, i wish cancer upon you and your entire bloodline, youre subhuman, your very core is rotten and inhuman since you consider a snake anything but a threat to yourself or your loved ones, and one to be killed ASAP.
Youre no better than the trannies, homosexuals and all the other queers who are saying "you know what maybe this years old well established doctrine based on thousands of years of evolutionary pressure is WRONG and i should take DICK in my BUTT"
TLDR.
pythons are decimated the everglades due to pieces of shit who think snakes are pets, i hate all of those and wish cancer upon them.
Chad snek vs virgin coon, humans introducing species is no different from animals spreading on their own, whether that be flying, swimming, walking, burrowing, or rafting
I heard its now legal to kill pythons in Florida. Is it legal to rape them too? What is the limit on python rapes you can commit in Florida? Im going there in August. Just askin?
What else should we introduce to Florida? Goniurosaurus would be cool.
Shouldnt the pythons die because they're inbred fucks descended from a few abandoned pythons? Like a real python from Burma would be disgusted by how inbred his florida cousins are
They escaped from a breeding facility during Hurricane Andrew so they have lots of genetic diversity. And inbreeding doesn't really affect reptiles as much as it does mammals.
Rent free
Meh, the snakes are cooler
I've literally seen all those animals this week.
>mammals going extinct
Good. Accelerate. The Avian epoch is upon us
And yet you don't cry and shit your pants about the rats that everyone keeps as pets despite the immense global ecological damage they have caused over the centuries, driving many more species to extinction than the Burmese python ever has and will.
Invasive species are a nothingburger to further constrict the rights of people to own pets, move things across state borders, etc.
The whole schism falls apart when you realize that nothing in nature stays the same for long. Armadillos crossed the Rio Grande only 200 years ago and are moving north, the government actively propagates non-native sports fish that destroyed native fish, cattle egrets migrating across the Atlantic to America in the mid 1800s, etc.
The real issue is habitat destruction and invasive species are the ones that get scapegoated because they're usually the only ones capable of recolonizing disturbed areas.
Here's another brainlet who can't name five fungi that are native to his country but thinks he knows better than conservationists and biologists
>autist thinks that just because he knows a lot about niche thing he's a genius
Funny how you don't have an argument against me, just an appeal to authority. Daddy government is never wrong right?
And I'm not saying that all invasives are good, there's some that are horrible like knotweed and feral cats that I'd love to see exterminated. But the majority of introduced species are harmless, even the ones we formerly thought were bad like starlings and snakeheads.
Snakeheads can be bad if there is a species that performs a similar roll in the area.
>just an appeal to authority
It's not an appeal to authority, it's an appeal to knowledge.
Your conclusion that "invasive species are not a big deal" isn't based on extensive study, research and observation of native species and the way they interact with introduced ones (can you even identify them?), it's just an arbitrary position you decided to take based on pseudo-philosophical concepts like "nothing is meant to stay the same".
The introduction of invasive species IS habitat destruction. A European stream that's full of Procambarus clarkii is in no way different than a stream that's full of plastic trashbags and chemical waste; both result in death of biodiversity and water quality.
>And I'm not saying that all invasives are good
If they're "good" or at least have a neutral impact on the environment then they're not catalogued as invasive.
Not all adventitious species are considered invasive, only the ones that are proven to disrupt local ecosystems.
Yes, the majority of introduced species are harmless, but 100% of invasive species are harmful, it's in the definition.
Evolution in action. Just imagine the massacres when continents collided in the past.
There were no massacres. Continents slowly collided over the course of millions of years and species, climates and biomes gradually shifted across that timespan.
I remember watching a show on big snakes in Florida (I think) and they were talking about how destructive and out of control they were. They caught one and examined it then let it go. It's been years and years since I saw that and I think about that from time to time and it makes me mad. If they're that bad and are decimating the native animals, why wouldn't you kill every last one you find? Keep doing that and you'll at least get the population more under control. Are they protected or something?
>are they protected or something?
No, people are just stupid. I’ve only been to Florida twice, but both times I set aside an afternoon to take a box of CCI stingers and go out killing pythons and iguanas. My buddy I was visiting came out too, but I know he’s not exactly doing this shit when I’m not there, though I couldn’t tell you why, it’s not like I don’t beach all the carp I catch, shoot house sparrows and starlings, or cut down buckthorn at home. If a million people were like me, the problem would shrink massively. We’re talking a couple hours walking around with a scoped .22.
Of course, some folks would need to do it by boat and whatever, and some territories are downright hard to get to or search in, so you’d need to make it an ongoing thing, because there’s always going to be a reservoir population that isn’t economical to eliminate, but that’s hardly an excuse.
Too many fishermen return invasives to to the water too.
Nevermind, have a nice day subhuman chud
why do you care?
And just to be clear - your solution to the python problem in FLORIDA is to build factory farms in a completely different state?
>Not my heckin rabies vectors NOOO
Your mom is an aids vector yet nobody is advocating for her eradication
And what are you going to do mammal-boi ?
Rip your fur out ?
Grow your nails and squirt some milk maybe ?
Cute. My ball python looks just like that. He left me a fat turd this morning. That is the fate of all mammals.
Well I guess we need to rehome all those snakes into responsible households. I might consider it.
also OP is clearly paranoid and ophidiophobic, unfortunately. I think he means well and his point about irresponsible owners is valid. But obviously has a pathological fear of snakes, as well as of various species of homosexuals. Although most homosexuals are relatively harmless and often beneficial, I do agree that flaming camp queens should be subject to extermination due to their high toxicity to the ecosystem
I don't disagree with you but...
>python eating a bobcat
I doubt it.
To clarefy this, I don't see how a python would catch a bobcat with such frequency.
Same way wolves cause cougar populations to collapse. They kill juveniles and change the behavior of mutual prey species.
A bobcat is literally the perfect size to be python food. Large pythons have been recorded eating hyenas, big cats and bears
>and bears
Yeah, I saw that video too !
Small bears, but bears nonetheless
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228726707_Predation_on_sun_bears_by_reticulated_python_in_East_Kalimantan_Indonesian_Borneo
That sucks, but raccoon, rabbits and bobcats are are not just in florida but all across the usa and pythons can't survive harsh winters frosts so they can't spread out from there. Out midwest rattlesnake meat is pretty popular. Need to make python hunting without a permit popular in america, boom, they will go extinct within a decade. Billy Bob will enjoy eating them and making novelty boots out of them to sell to tourists.
>Need to make python hunting without a permit popular in america, boom, they will go extinct within a decade.
They currently pay people to kill them. Pop is still going up.
Make a python meat industry out of it. Make a python skin boot industry. Anything that promises people decent money will quickly wipe them out.
Again - people are paid just to go find and kill them, no other investment needed on their part.
Population is still going up.
And really, I dont think you understand capitalism. If you make an industry based on python products, that will INCREASE the python population.
Can you guess why?
>If you make an industry based on python products, that will INCREASE the python population.
Meanwhile the fishing industry has emptied the oceans of fish schools.
And basically every other animal we farm? Do you understand the differences between factory farming in the ocean and factory farming on land?
What does factory farming have to do with hunting wild snakes? The pythons are contained in a relatively small area of florida.
>What does factory farming have to do with hunting wild snakes?
You built a business around them. Business will grow. They will want more snakes. This is why I said you arent taking capitalism properly.
>that will INCREASE the python population.
In captivity, but not necessarily the wild. Whether there are more pythons in farms being bred for leather has no relevance to the populations of invasive pythons, especially not if you take precautions to ensure escapes don’t occur or just build a facility in a place they would freeze to death as soon as winter arrived. Farming snakes for their skins would not have any more of an impact than the snakes being bred as pets
>especially not if you take precautions to ensure escapes don’t occur
No one needs your regulations, commie.
It is stupid to think there wouldnt be escapes and horrible impact on any environment.
>No one needs your regulations, commie
Are you implying a cage with a sufficient lock is a regulation?
>It is stupid to think there wouldnt be escapes and horrible impact on any environment
>build farm anywhere that isn’t a tropical area
>snake escapes
>immediately freezes to death
>Are you implying a cage with a sufficient lock is a regulation?
If you are going to force business to do it - yes.
And then you go ahead and prove that you are too stupid to understand there will be escapes that dont die no matter where you build.
>If you are going to force business to do it - yes
It’s a requirement if you have snakes at all, if you don’t you will very quickly have no snakes. If you’re trying to farm snakes for leather you want them to stay where they are
>there will be escapes that dont die no matter where you build
And yet there’s no feral Burmese pythons in Michigan. Strange, it’s almost like they can’t survive in freezing temperatures. If you can’t understand why a tropical snake wouldn’t survive in a cold climate, you might be retarded
>your solution to the python problem in FLORIDA is to build factory farms in a completely different state?
No, that is my solution to creating a snake leather farming operation without risking the establishment of more invasive pythons
>That sucks, but raccoon, rabbits and bobcats are are not just in florida
So? The Florida populations are declining. Local extinction is still extinction, the animals on the other side of the country aren't contributing to local ecology.
You really should start studying biomes and ecosystems.
>oh no another generic brown/grey rat face is struggling
Good. Fuck mammals.
Maybe they should evolve to deal with the pythons. Keep up or die.
>Rabbits have vanished completely
This isn't true as of yesterday I saw one.
Who cares? There have been 5 mass extinctions before man was alive. The cycle of life will continue, and human satisfaction isn't required for that. Enough of this cringey guilt. Move on with your life.
The earth will survive with or without humans and no matter what feelings they ever do or don't have.
I care. I want my children to inherit the biodiversity I enjoy every day.
Both cats and invasive snakes need to be culled
>cats obliterate ecosystems everywhere they go
>*blank stare*
>pythons obliterate one (1) ecosystem
> >:OOOOOO
cities aren't ecosystems and the cats actually help urban areas since they eat pests and rodents
>cats only live in cities and only eat pests like rodents
Oh anon...
LMAO you can't be more wrong
Cats decimate bird populations, including the ones which existed in cities. They're bad for catching pests, since they are pests themselves. The best rat catchers are small dogs
>Cats decimate bird populations, including the ones which existed in cities
again with this stupid canard.
I try to run over every single cat I see crossing the street
Cats can't grow huge then wrap around and suffocate things so they aren't as disturbing. By all means, get rid of the ferals and make it so people can't let their cats out to roam but they aren't horrifying as the big snakes are.
Please stop eating estrogen pills like candy
Cats only blessing is that they usually don't go that far from humans and into ecosystems when they don't mix with natives. So if we would keep our settlements away from habitats vulnerable to cat-like predators and don't leave feral colonies around until they might evolve, they wouln't be that much of a problem.
Rats and snakes go brrr into every last suitable corner once released though. At least the bigger snakes should be able to be catched again.
Sneak inside the nest while mummy is hunting and gobble up all the kids. Cats can't kill most shore birds either but they do enough damage just by snacking on the easy to reach eggs and babies.
That's true but since you don't own the planet alone, other people also decide how they want to keep it. We potect 'nature' not because of the poor poor planet but because we want to keep or create the things we enjoy to look at or that keep our lives comfortable. It's just or us and the following few generations, really.
We have different words for
Neobiota, non-indigenous species: Species that arrived and thrive somewhere outside their native range due to humans global connections
Invasive species: Species that do this and also cause the decline of native species or harm humans in any way, be it allergies or financial.
>Cats only blessing is that they usually don't go that far from humans and into ecosystems when they don't mix with natives
Feral cats spread all over the place, they don't just hang around cities
If species cannot survive, they deserve to go extinct. That is the Darwinian reality.
>bait of such low quality
It seems a petfag has realised that /herp/ and /aq/ are some of the only decent generals on the board left. Wait until you find out what kind of damage cats do
watched a show about this once on tv, some rednecks in the everglades hunting for pythons, they had a license and were allowed to hunt a limited number of specimens. why would they do this if it's an invasive specie? shouldn't they allow everybody to hunt and kill as many as they can indiscriminately?
its dogshit, i guess they think bubba is too retarded to be trusted to kill pythons without killing native snakes
maybe liability reasons
regardless, the python extermination licensure nonsense is far too selective and restrictive for something so ecologically destructive
let florida hicks have at it for some cigarette money
>pythons eat all the mammals like racoons and coyotes
>turtle and nesting bird populations increase because no more predators to eat their eggs
Reptile chads just keep on winning
>Pure evil and mankind's destructive potential at its peak.
so it's only going to get better from here? Or at least not any worse?
homosexual
In what way does me owning a pet boa, born in captivity, who will die in captivity, have anything to do with Burmese pythons in the glades?
Welcome to the web mob iq, here your european city pet cat also causes the extinction of island bird species on other continents while you're not looking and every lawn higher than 2 inches spawns ticks, rats and snakes.
total mammal death
Who cares about the cause? Animals find their ways around to new places, some die off, some fill a niche, some out compete what was there first, some become the apex
Climates change, continents shift, species migrate
The snakes will over pressure the small mammals, run out of their food source, shrink over time to compensate, in 1,000,000 years you might see coontigers the size of a labradoodle preying on the now midget snakes
So is life
>Just destroy the entire environment we know so there is a .1% chance in 20 quintillion years that things recover
Why do you brainlets infest this board?
The same reason overly emotional retarded ass thinking like yours is so prevalent nowadays. Too many feminizing hormones in the water.
A good chunk of Florida's invasives came from hurricane Andrew fucking up a few breeding facilities/Zoos, like anons here have stated already. But this is a bait thread meant to garner (you)s, so I'm wasting my breath.
I'm actually curious what people like him/you have to say about when species move around and outcompete each other "naturally" as opposed to a manmade cause, accident or otherwise.
>I'm actually curious what people like him/you have to say about when species move around and outcompete each other "naturally" as opposed to a manmade cause, accident or otherwise.
That is nothing like importing invasive species.
Animals and plants only change their natural range spontaneously when the habitats themselves change. A bird species isn't going to randomly cross the mountains its lineage never crossed over the course of thousands of years just for shit and giggles.
As climate, vegetation and food availability shifts the species that inhabit the ecosystem will do it to, this happens over the course of thousands of years. The "outcompeted" species will also move to newly available habitats.
This is completely different from an insect being shipped overnight from one side of the planet to another.
I want a platypus.
is this vid implying that theres a wild population of platypus in florida?
Why do you think the environment is so fragile when it's changed radically manly times in Earth's history? In fact, why do you care about it at all? We don't really need the Earth's ecosystem to exist anymore. Civilization would keep going if all the forests disappeared tomorrow.
>Civilization would keep going if all the forests disappeared tomorrow.
Not sure you've thought this through tbqh
why do rightoids love throwing their hands up in the air in exasperation and claim "ugh, like, there's just nothing can be done!" about problems caused by humans?
I think its a response to the leftoid versionof the same behavior, "screeching about how a problem exists but having no suggestions on how to address it and expecting someone else to do it for them."
Because they know they’re technically part of the reason why those problems happen (or at the least support those who are directly the cause) and think they’re just a rich man in a poor man’s body.
Keeps with the Florida vibe though lol
>two continents meet
>spread of animals radiates from point of contact, from individual wanderers making journeys and offspring spreading to new territories
>potential spread across the entire continent blocked or limited by mountains, deserts, winter, etc
>establishing a healthy, stable population requires good enough numbers of migrants and genetic diversity
>there is a fossil record of scattered one-off migrations of breeding groups of monkeys/lizards/birds/whatever making it across oceans but eventually dying out anyway
VS
>fuckhuge breeding population instantly teleported to ideal conditions by morons
But i'm sure that this is totally okay since humans are part of nature too and pumping wastewater into aquifers, dumping industrial waste into rivers, and destroying coral reefs overnight is entirely fine and natural
Why dont we just eat the snakes?
I see coons everywhere tho
In other places the coons are the invasive species. Around towns usually all bets are off and everyone that can stand us and our byproducts lives happily eating trash.
A legal system built to maintain prosperity rather than to actively sabotage it would have these people killed
the only system that works will return one day.
>vigilante justice
This means you're not going to get a lot of investors who don't want their employees and clients killed in random blood feuds. Martial training is good though.
>is that a corn snake? you're a heckin raccoon genocider!
>And there were multiple of these types of "people" because those pythons bred in the wild
Undoubtedly people released their unwanted “pets” or had to leave them behind when evacuating, but the sustained breeding population of pythons probably came from a reptile breeding facility that got destroyed by a hurricane in 1992. Many of Florida’s invasives originated from a business or research lab after a hurricane. Ignoring the species that hitchhiked on cargo, Customs used to dump their seized live animal shipments as well.
Some critters were intentionally released for various other reasons, like the easy money they can get from chameleons.
>some messed up in the head weirdo thought it'd be fun to have a mindless eating machine as a pet and had low enough IQ to release it into the wild blah blah
It was a research/breeding facility that got literally ripped open by hurricane andrew that released several hundred animals into the wild. Please actually learn about the shit you're assblasted about before posting your blog where people neither give a shit nor can do anything to address it.
>bawwwwww de animoos got eated
Yeah, and what EXACTLY do you want anyone here to do about it? Tell you what, next time i find a fucking genie in a lamp I'll reserve one wish for a big huge fucking PYTHON MAGNET and send it to you so you can rub it all over florida, how's that?
>Many of Florida’s invasives originated from a business or research lab after a hurricane.
What gave them the bright idea to put such a lab not only in hurricane country, but part of the country the confined animals would thrive in if they escaped?
The life of any random animal is more valuable than any random human.
It's a shame
Let's not get crazy here
Here, here.
I dunno, I can think of a few people I’d prefer dead over some animal.
>I’d prefer dead over some animal.
its more like you prefer them dead independently of the animal
Depends on the race
I'll drink to that
the chad burm vs the virgin prey mammal