Out of ALL the animals, why did it have to be these two?

Out of ALL the animals, why did it have to be these two?

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  1. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dogs probably self-domesticated from eating scraps and us both scaring away other animals but I'm not really sure why we ever cared about cats despite how cool they are. I doubt most of them bothered to hunt vermin and were just cute fluffy companions.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I doubt most of them bothered to hunt vermin
      Why? Even to this day it's still their favorite hobby

  2. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Their ancestors were dumb enough to agree to be our slaves.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >10 years later
      Fail.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        In many countries we use punters and commas the other way around

  3. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    thing not mentioned itt that helped a lot with the relationship is both are pretty generalist in what they eat and need and this there's a low floor for maintenance. dogs are mostly straight up scavengers. cats can seem somewhat picky and autistic to the naive eye but in the scheme of the general animal kingdom absolutely are not. helps a lot when the animal doesn't have some moronic maintenance hangup

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      domestic cats are actually prolific scavengers now. it comes with the reduced body and brain mass of being a domesticated animal honestly. they probably originated as partial scavengers, partial hunters who reaches equilibrium with fat, docile mice living in trash heaps. basically the same thing as a dog just more consistently pointy eared and a bit dumber.

  4. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    I read a story once called A Parliament of Beasts and Birds about what happens to the animals after the apocalypse. In it, one of the ideas was that dog was the first animal that Adam named, as it was the first animal to walk up to him, and cat stayed hidden only approached Eve.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's bullshit

      The first animal named would be the seagull

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        1: Seagull
        2: Duck
        3: Goose
        4: Mosquito
        5: Hornet
        6: Dog
        7: Leopard
        8: Bear
        9: Lion
        Only after man sat down with his dog after a long day of being harassed and hunted did he find
        10: "Couch attacking toes" Now just called cat.

  5. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    You forgot about someone OP? The only reason we don't live with you is because of size.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      For all the dogs of history who went lame and spent their remaining life sleeping on a pillow and barking at moors, there are millions more horses that had their brains pulverized for spraining an ankle.

  6. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literally everything is a pet now.

  7. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because we do not deserve hyenas.

  8. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cats are great even today if you have mice

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      just dont live in a poor shithole infested with rats

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just have enough capital to buy dozens or hundreds of acres in the country. Have nice house, nice garage, nice barn, no neighbors sitting on top of your shithole apartment. Quiet. Two problems: Mice and coyotes.

  9. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    name some other animals that
    >are capable of useful tasks
    >not really dangerous to humans
    >are very cheap and easy to care for
    >are about as adaptable as humans when it comes to climate and temperatures
    >are easy to breed
    >have good life spans

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mustelids? Raccoons? Foxes?

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        they smell bad

  10. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Baseless speculation on my part, but here goes:
    >dogs help hunt game and/or guard livestock, while cats keep vermin out your food stores
    >the utility they provide if kept alive vastly outweighs their (rather low) value as food
    >on the other hand, your other domesticated animals generally offer little if any worthwhile benefit to your survival beyond slaughtering them for food/materials
    >in short, cats and dogs are helpers and allies, whereas livestock are just walking garbage cans that convert unpalatable biomass into meat
    >much (if not the majority) of your grazing herds won't see the following year anyway as they would have to be culled as winter approaches*, whereas cats and dogs would be sticking around for years to come
    >in this context, it's far easier to form meaningful attachments to cats and dogs than to livestock animals
    *to my understanding, pasture typically has far less grazing capacity during winter for various reasons, so would only be able to support a significantly smaller herd than in warmer months without importing significant extra nutrients in fodder (not entirely practical before three-field crop rotation)
    I imagine horses/ponies might have historically enjoyed a similar situation, but it's a lot harder to justify keeping them "just because" when they're far larger, far more expensive, and require space that increasingly few people today seem to have.

  11. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Just the two of us.

  12. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Capybaras may join them soon.

  13. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    They won, every other living thing is killed or eaten by humans but they get pampered

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      >bars your path

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      They even have the Senate in their paws, these bastards.
      >The Dog and Cat Meat Trade Prohibition Act of 2018 is a bipartisan bill outlawing the slaughter and trade of cats and dogs in the United States. It passed the House by voice vote on September 12, 2018.

  14. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    >right place
    >right temperament
    >right time

  15. 12 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because these two are the ones who actually signed up to be human companions.
    >wolves started following cavemen around for food scraps and helped them out during hunting.
    >cats just kind of showed up, decided they liked living with humans, and made good PR by not being a degenerate vermin.
    Unlike other domesticated animals which humans headhunted and recruited, cats and dogs actually showed up with a CV and did good enough to get hired.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      seal bros... how come humans don't want us

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        too fat unironically

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        C'mon, just do it like cats did. Don't wait for the human. Approach the human. Chat up the human. Go clubbing with the human. Obtain the headache of a lifetime with the human.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ywn do sambuca shots with your seal bro in studio 54

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        because they live in places humans dont? also too heavy

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        They rely too much on water, you'd need a small lake to keep one happy, now imagine seal owners only providing it with a kiddie pool...
        It's for the best they aren't domesticated

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        too dependent on water, and too dirty.
        you don't even want to know the kinds of nasty things you can catch from interacting with a seal.

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Too fun to club

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      See: and

      Baseless speculation on my part, but here goes:
      >dogs help hunt game and/or guard livestock, while cats keep vermin out your food stores
      >the utility they provide if kept alive vastly outweighs their (rather low) value as food
      >on the other hand, your other domesticated animals generally offer little if any worthwhile benefit to your survival beyond slaughtering them for food/materials
      >in short, cats and dogs are helpers and allies, whereas livestock are just walking garbage cans that convert unpalatable biomass into meat
      >much (if not the majority) of your grazing herds won't see the following year anyway as they would have to be culled as winter approaches*, whereas cats and dogs would be sticking around for years to come
      >in this context, it's far easier to form meaningful attachments to cats and dogs than to livestock animals
      *to my understanding, pasture typically has far less grazing capacity during winter for various reasons, so would only be able to support a significantly smaller herd than in warmer months without importing significant extra nutrients in fodder (not entirely practical before three-field crop rotation)
      I imagine horses/ponies might have historically enjoyed a similar situation, but it's a lot harder to justify keeping them "just because" when they're far larger, far more expensive, and require space that increasingly few people today seem to have.

      Plus, my own thoughts: No hooves. Hooves make a lot of noise and are uncomfy for cuddles. Myself, I love the idea of guardboars wearing kevlar. Pigs can be trained. Not as readily as a dog, but easier than a cat. The more I think about this, the sadder I get.

      https://i.imgur.com/yg7EdJW.jpg

      seal bros... how come humans don't want us

      We do, boo, we do. It's just, we from two different worlds, baby. Tell otter and beaver we love them, too.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      I read a archaeology account about humans and wolves a while ago and always like it

      >Find some old cave
      >No one had been in it for a long, long time
      >Sort of the same deal as the Lascaux caves
      >Archaeologists see child footprints in the dirt or whatever
      >Behind them are these massive wolf paw prints
      >Immediately assume that the wolf was stalking the child and likely killed them inside the cave
      >Continue inside cave
      >Cave gets wider
      >Notice now that the footprints and the paw prints are side by side rather than one following the other
      >Stay like that until it reaches the exit
      >Determine that the wolf wasn't stalking the child
      >The wolf was with the child as a protector
      >Estimate the prints to be 20,000-30,000 years old
      >Much older than the human-dog/wolf relationship was ever thought to have been

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cats were used to hunt down mice and other things that ate grain. For an average farmer cat was 10 times more valuable than a dog

      • 12 months ago
        Anonymous

        Cats do not hunt down mice at a rate sufficient to be a valuable asset, and that's sadly the only thing they can even sort of manage. If you are wise, you can use a cat properly, because the cat will *temporarily* scare off mice. The mice will return in about 4 weeks. that means you have 4 weeks to clean up the mouse shit, store your crap properly, and seal up shoddy storehouses. Cats are inept against rats. The cats hunting style is the source of its limited utility - it sits, it waits, and it pounces if it looks easy. It has very few neurons in that brain and it needs to conserve energy to get any use out of them.

        The continued presence of the cat after that is not necessary. The mice will return in 4 weeks and exhibit more cautious behavior, so the cat will feed but the mice will still breed. Most cats aren't controlling any pests, they're eating random shit in the middle of the field that wasn't bothering anyone.

        A dog, on the other hand, is an invaluable asset in pest control because they are highly driven hunters that will gladly kill in excess and pursue even difficult prey.

        started following cavemen around for food scraps and helped them out during hunting.
        Sounds more like lazy animals trying to get an easy kill and lost all hunting instincts and are now totally useless in the wild. Dogs are the fricking worst.

        Dogs are actually pretty good at surviving in the wild and are known to join wolf packs. Most dogs and all cats, barring the ones in ecological wonderlands like australia, will die off if they don't have at least indirect human gibs, but cats generally suck at living without us, while some particularly strong dogs can say "frick it" at any time and return to WVLF.

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Cats do not hunt down mice at a rate sufficient to be a valuable asset
          and bloodletting didn't actually help sick people in any way either, but what mattered is that dumb farmers believed it

        • 12 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Cats do not hunt down mice at a rate sufficient to be a valuable asset
          >Not knowing about based mouser Towser

          • 12 months ago
            Anonymous

            despite all those mice they were a persistent problem

            Just have enough capital to buy dozens or hundreds of acres in the country. Have nice house, nice garage, nice barn, no neighbors sitting on top of your shithole apartment. Quiet. Two problems: Mice and coyotes.

            >mice
            the cats won't do anything. more sanitary practices will.
            >coyotes
            on the other hand you could feed them the cats because the coyotes actually do get rid of mice

            • 12 months ago
              Anonymous

              You do know that without cats it would be a lot worse, right? Mouse didn't evolved millions of strategies against cats because cats were inneficient.

    • 12 months ago
      Anonymous

      started following cavemen around for food scraps and helped them out during hunting.
      Sounds more like lazy animals trying to get an easy kill and lost all hunting instincts and are now totally useless in the wild. Dogs are the fricking worst.

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