people really suggesting dogs and cats, or any mammal to begin with, when 80% of small invertebrate life is fucking nightmarish. I'd go with the ascidians. They're the closest relatives we have to fish and lampreys but instead of having a complex nervous system or shit like that, the larvae LOSES most of its nervous system just to become a fucking filter feeder. Also this necessarily means a shit ton of sea critters will live inside its motionless, brainless body (it keeps the heart for some reason, sothis sponge-like mass achtually has a fucking heart). Honorable mention to sea cucumbers because they too are barely motile and constantly raped by fish.
Neotrogla >They aggressively seek out mates, while males are more selective. During mating, the female mounts the male and penetrates his small genital opening from behind. >Her gynosome swells and tiny barbs on the organ lock the individuals tightly together; when a researcher tried to separate mating individuals the male was torn in two, leaving his reproductive organs attached to the female. During mating, the female uses her gynosome to extract sperm and nutrient-filled seminal fluid from the male. >A single mating session can last from 40 to 70 hours.
giwtwm, ect.
Those things that are born inside a hive and the males are tiny and all live until they mate and then immediately die all inside the hive. They never see outside. I can’t remember if it was a bug or what.
Greenland Sharks.
Deep darkness, crushing pressure and guaranteed eye parasites. If you don't have to endure this for several centuries, you get hauled out by Eskimos looking to turn you into one of the most foul dishes ever prepared.
Cats and dogs that are the pets of humans. They get to live "comfortably" with almost no freedom or good food for their entire life with humans who do not care about them.
They literally evolved for this and enjoy it to an excessive degree. Don’t project your angst onto domesticated animals because you still have the antisocial ADHD spirit of a caveman
There's nothing wrong with having pets if you take care of them properly. Most people just shut their pets inside all day, only being let outside a handful of hours a day. Most people do not give their pet proper enrichment through activity. Most people do not give their pet proper affection. Most people do not spend time with their pets (and if they do, it's not much.) Most people do not groom their pets properly. Most people see their pets as a cute object, a "thing" that they keep around for their selfish need of companionship, which they force upon this animal without care of the animal.
Again, they literally evolved for this. Many dogs need absolutely nothing, the brain tissue in a golden retriever is rather absent. Likewise for persians and ragdolls. They aren’t all huskies, mals, savannah cats, and half-bobcat ratters.
Dogs and cats (and other pets) did not involve to stay indoors 80% of the day, eat shitty kibble/wet food, be neutered and not interact with another one of their species for their entire life.
If you think otherwise you are retarded and I won't waste any more time on you.
Most cats dont even fuck with other cats, mine certainly doesnt. And im not letting her outside to get killed by a car, snake, hawk, etc etc. she is 100% happy INSIDE thank YOU very much.
6 months ago
Anonymous
>she is 100% happy INSIDE thank YOU very much.
Why does this read like a soijak post?
>>good food
Depends on the human, my animals eat fresh pet not kibble and some leftover meat scraps too
Yeah, not all owners are bad, just most.
>>not interact with another of thier species
Most people have multiple kots and dogs but especially kots
They still didn't evolve to exist indoors all day, or most of the day, or any of the other points I made.
6 months ago
Anonymous
Indoors is fine as long as they have room to run around, scratching posts and cat playgrounds which will mentally simulate and exercise them
6 months ago
Anonymous
>Retard doesn't realise that being locked in a less than 100 square meter room your entire life fucking sucks.
This is exactly what I mean. People have absolutely zero empathy for their pets and less than zero understanding of their own actions. How would you like to be locked in an apartment or house for the rest of your life? Are you genuine this stupid?
6 months ago
Anonymous
I dont live in a disgusting apartment and im already am locked inside my home 24/7, I love it
Urban foxes. Read Being a Beast, a very informal "phenomenological" study of a few different animals, to see how far we can put ourselves in their shoes. The dude spent a summer playing a mole, naked in a hole he had dug next to a river in England. By the time he was done he thought being in the hole was comfy as fuck and his wife had to force him and the kids to leave.
However he could barely stand a few hours at a time "playing" urban foxes. With their noise sensitivity, its like living your entire life in a trench during an artillery barrage.
>The dude spent a summer playing a mole, naked in a hole he had dug next to a river in England. By the time he was done he thought being in the hole was comfy as fuck and his wife had to force him and the kids to leave.
from what I understand inbreeding is not that big of a deal in some insect species and with fig wasps in particular one fig may carry multiple mother wasps.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15140104/
The coevolution of figs and wasps goes back for 70 or even 90 million years and is honestly a super interesting topic
Those things that are born inside a hive and the males are tiny and all live until they mate and then immediately die all inside the hive. They never see outside. I can’t remember if it was a bug or what.
>especially new worlds
Why would new world males have it any worse than old worlds? Unless I'm missing something they're both in pretty much the exact same situation
Oh shit totally forgot about those, that definitely makes matters considerably worse considering all the time they have to spend exposed running around looking for a female
people really suggesting dogs and cats, or any mammal to begin with, when 80% of small invertebrate life is fucking nightmarish. I'd go with the ascidians. They're the closest relatives we have to fish and lampreys but instead of having a complex nervous system or shit like that, the larvae LOSES most of its nervous system just to become a fucking filter feeder. Also this necessarily means a shit ton of sea critters will live inside its motionless, brainless body (it keeps the heart for some reason, sothis sponge-like mass achtually has a fucking heart). Honorable mention to sea cucumbers because they too are barely motile and constantly raped by fish.
Filter feeding is comfy though. I wish I could filter feed.
problem is, you'd start us as a motile larvae that'd slowly lose its brain, so you'd go through the step of disappointment
The problem with these things is they have so little brain activity they're incapable of suffering
Nobody mentioned the Greenland Shark yet?
It's blind, wandering the ocean floor alone for decades, eating detritus and fish carcasses. before running into a potential mate.
Swimming through the void for 500 years seems pretty chill to me. Maybe they got Donkey Kong music down there?
I wonder if it basically just tries to fuck everything it meets
it probably has almost no brain function, mostly just the controls for the mechanical movements of swimming and ripping meat off bone
Its probably prey for a lot of predators since its blind its ez pickings
Apparently they smell like piss too
Neotrogla
>They aggressively seek out mates, while males are more selective. During mating, the female mounts the male and penetrates his small genital opening from behind.
>Her gynosome swells and tiny barbs on the organ lock the individuals tightly together; when a researcher tried to separate mating individuals the male was torn in two, leaving his reproductive organs attached to the female. During mating, the female uses her gynosome to extract sperm and nutrient-filled seminal fluid from the male.
>A single mating session can last from 40 to 70 hours.
giwtwm, ect.
>you will never bone for 40-70 hours
why ilve
It's perfectly possible on a meth binge.
Any of the insects that get parasitized or slowly killed by spiders.
Or the cicadas that spend 17 years underground.
Those things that are born inside a hive and the males are tiny and all live until they mate and then immediately die all inside the hive. They never see outside. I can’t remember if it was a bug or what.
Greenland Sharks.
Deep darkness, crushing pressure and guaranteed eye parasites. If you don't have to endure this for several centuries, you get hauled out by Eskimos looking to turn you into one of the most foul dishes ever prepared.
Imagine being a Greenland shark eye parasite
Ganges river dolphins.
Cats and dogs that are the pets of humans. They get to live "comfortably" with almost no freedom or good food for their entire life with humans who do not care about them.
They literally evolved for this and enjoy it to an excessive degree. Don’t project your angst onto domesticated animals because you still have the antisocial ADHD spirit of a caveman
There's nothing wrong with having pets if you take care of them properly. Most people just shut their pets inside all day, only being let outside a handful of hours a day. Most people do not give their pet proper enrichment through activity. Most people do not give their pet proper affection. Most people do not spend time with their pets (and if they do, it's not much.) Most people do not groom their pets properly. Most people see their pets as a cute object, a "thing" that they keep around for their selfish need of companionship, which they force upon this animal without care of the animal.
Again, they literally evolved for this. Many dogs need absolutely nothing, the brain tissue in a golden retriever is rather absent. Likewise for persians and ragdolls. They aren’t all huskies, mals, savannah cats, and half-bobcat ratters.
Dogs and cats (and other pets) did not involve to stay indoors 80% of the day, eat shitty kibble/wet food, be neutered and not interact with another one of their species for their entire life.
If you think otherwise you are retarded and I won't waste any more time on you.
Most cats dont even fuck with other cats, mine certainly doesnt. And im not letting her outside to get killed by a car, snake, hawk, etc etc. she is 100% happy INSIDE thank YOU very much.
>she is 100% happy INSIDE thank YOU very much.
Why does this read like a soijak post?
Yeah, not all owners are bad, just most.
They still didn't evolve to exist indoors all day, or most of the day, or any of the other points I made.
Indoors is fine as long as they have room to run around, scratching posts and cat playgrounds which will mentally simulate and exercise them
>Retard doesn't realise that being locked in a less than 100 square meter room your entire life fucking sucks.
This is exactly what I mean. People have absolutely zero empathy for their pets and less than zero understanding of their own actions. How would you like to be locked in an apartment or house for the rest of your life? Are you genuine this stupid?
I dont live in a disgusting apartment and im already am locked inside my home 24/7, I love it
>>not interact with another of thier species
Most people have multiple kots and dogs but especially kots
>huskies
Fuck off dog fucker, your glorified rat isn't special or smart
>>good food
Depends on the human, my animals eat fresh pet not kibble and some leftover meat scraps too
Whats wrong? Seems comfy
Urban foxes. Read Being a Beast, a very informal "phenomenological" study of a few different animals, to see how far we can put ourselves in their shoes. The dude spent a summer playing a mole, naked in a hole he had dug next to a river in England. By the time he was done he thought being in the hole was comfy as fuck and his wife had to force him and the kids to leave.
However he could barely stand a few hours at a time "playing" urban foxes. With their noise sensitivity, its like living your entire life in a trench during an artillery barrage.
>The dude spent a summer playing a mole, naked in a hole he had dug next to a river in England. By the time he was done he thought being in the hole was comfy as fuck and his wife had to force him and the kids to leave.
He brought his kids into the hole? How big was this thing?
macaques
Male angler fish
>wake up in a dark cavern
>cum in your sister
>suffocate or starve
inb4 "god I wish that were me"
god I wish that were me
They are so cute when they draw them like that though. But yeah I feel bad for insects, I wish they didn't have to live those crazy hard lives.
How do these wasps deal with lack of genetic diversity?
from what I understand inbreeding is not that big of a deal in some insect species and with fig wasps in particular one fig may carry multiple mother wasps.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15140104/
The coevolution of figs and wasps goes back for 70 or even 90 million years and is honestly a super interesting topic
Oh it’s that. Should have read the thread.
so that's why they're so crunchy
Bile bears
male tarantulas, especially new worlds
>especially new worlds
Why would new world males have it any worse than old worlds? Unless I'm missing something they're both in pretty much the exact same situation
they also have to deal with tarantula hawks
Oh shit totally forgot about those, that definitely makes matters considerably worse considering all the time they have to spend exposed running around looking for a female