>orca get up to 26 feet in length. >they travel up to 100 miles a day

>orca get up to 26 feet in length
>they travel up to 100 miles a day
>the biggest seaworld tank is 220 feet long
Why is Seaworld allowed?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    aquariums and zoos are evil and should be abolished tbqh

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >NOT THE HECKING ORCARINOS!!!! THEYRE SO INTELLIGENT!
    >killer whales proceed to use intelligence to rape and torture and maim and kill for fun constantly

    Watch the orcas kill a baby blue whale so they can eat the little half snack that is its tongue and then leave the mother try to resuscitate it. Mind you blue whales are critically endangered with 2% of their population remaining, and reproduce very slowly.
    Meanwhile, orcas are fucking everywhere in adundance killing actually rare pelagic fish and marine mammals. Yet some pit mommy complex keeps them protected.
    They were never endangered, so they were listed as "conservation dependent". So basically, we have to treat them like they are endangered even though they are not. This designation is incredibly rare and usually reasonable, applied to somes species with an extremely limited range, like one lake, but with a healthy population. Not a species as cosmopolitan as the fucking peregrine falcon.
    When the killer whale numbers exploded and they found even more previously undiscovered populations, this BS no longer held water. So they said "well, maybe a sub variety of a sub variety of a sub species is endangered and we don't know!". So now they are treated as critically endangered whilst being designated as "data unavailable."
    It's absolute insanity. What caused it? Free Willy? I'm going to guess that it was Sea World, which is hilariously ironic. Everyone loved that place, especially the killer whales. Shit, sea world is the one that popularized even the layman calling them "orcas" instead.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >NOT THE HECKING DIVERSIRINO
      >2%!!! (and whose fault is that lmao)
      meanwhile, here they are saving a young, scared and defenseless humpback juvenile

      maybe stop trying to apply your sick, warmongering, slave-driving "world view" upon these people; unlike you, they aren't aware of hard sciences such as taxonomy or biology, and even if they were they'd likely be far more upset at the pollution and industrial overfishing in the oceans rather than the end of this or that particular type of baleen whale
      it's not a question of saving a specific bloodline from extinction, but of sparing a fully sapient submarine people from horrible and meaningless suffering as captives for the sake amerifat-style "entertainment"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So, the answer is schizophrenia, got it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Plus, the video is literally titled "unheard of!"
        I can link you videos of big cats taking care of their prey like their own young if you want, and they aren't even morphology or genetically close like two species of whale are.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Those big cats just kind of hung around the prey though, they didn’t go out of their way to assist it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Smaller cats have nurtured their primary prey species to adulthood.
            Inb4 domesticated. Okay, then obviously indoor/outdoor cats aren't an issue with native bird populations.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >m-medsss
          lol
          it's "unheard of" because whale watching involving transient orcas and humpbacks is hard enough as it is; seeing encounters between them is statistically rare, and even so we've seen them prey upon humpbacks, hang out peacefully with humpbacks, help humpbacks feed, and now we've seen them go out of their way to swim over and save one in trouble after the poor thing started panic-vocalizing
          this is exactly your fucking problem, though; you think in terms of hard mechanical responses expected of some amazonian tree frog rather than the responses of a conscious human mind with its worldview shaped by eons of dwelling in the unforgiving ocean, and so i don't expect you to understand why a global ban on abducting the children of these people for sport is important

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, I see schizophrenic word salad I recommend meds, it's nothing deeper than that.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              the only "arguments" you have to support your sick excuse for a world-view show you for the miserable piece of shit you are and so you predictably resort to empty whining instead

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >implying putting an animal in abusive conditions has literally anything to do with the fact that it’s a predator in the wild

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Blue whales are predators too, but they aren't maiming baby krill for fun, fuck stick.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so do humans, who cares? maybe don't treat em like shit, oh but that's too hard
      just leave em in the ocean contrarian-kun

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        If you own any pets you're a filthy hypocrite.
        Are you using pesticides around your home? They were there first. Let nature be, bigot. Stop using electricity, think of the animals.
        Fuck off.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    interesting thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      he was too much of a COWARD to fuck an orca

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How else would you have sex with an Orca? Swim outside in the ocean? Say 'please have sex with me' while nearly drowning in salt water?

    That's what Sea World is for. Orcas held in captivity so you have an easy time to get in touch with one.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen sea turtles in 500,000 litre tanks which just doesn't seem enough

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      how big is that in cubic feet/meters?

      also yeah, seems pretty depressing for these animals to be locked up just so some fat fucks can gawk at them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        17657ft3

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GOOD.
    Keep Orca fags locked up so the cooler animals can rule the seas 🙂

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    there are certain animals that have slipped through the cracks of animal welfare laws
    pic related also often travels several miles searching for food, as shown by pythons fitted with gps trackers

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Racks and their consequences have been a disaster for the herp hobby.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AND WE WERE SURFING
    SURFING U.S.A.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >nooo dont keep animal in smaller cage than they would in nature!
    >it doesnt count if you interact with them for enrichment!
    are the same who
    >..noo my bunny has it good, i dont need a second one, i play with him!
    >the cage is not to small, i let it run around 2 hours a day!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't keep indoor pets. I just feed the coyotes so they kill my neighbor's cats. And I interact with wild animals that are habituated to humans

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      these are no mere animals
      these are sapient beings with brains far more complicated than ours
      they live in close-knit families, cultivate traditions and communicate in what can only be described as a language of clicks and whistling
      they display absurd levels of altruism sometimes extended even to what would usually be their prey and, unlike us needing centuries of study to finally figure out they're not dumb brutes, they can tell we're sapient just by looking at us and have thus never made prey of us despite our long history together; fishing tribes who met them in their canoes typically thought the benevolent giants were the spirits of their old chiefs and heroes, as attested by the surviving myths of widely scattered tribes
      the orcas are submarine hunters unable to enter the stone age only for lack of hands, they do NOT belong in a fucking theme park to do tricks for you and any monster who thinks they do despite knowing how poorly they fare there and how kind they are deserves a gruesome death

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Brains more complicated than ours
        Their limbic, auditory, and visual systems are but overall, no.
        >They have never made prey of us
        With witnesses. I honestly think they are smart enough to get away with it. They know how good humans are seeing what goes on underwater and have figured out which humans will be missed and which ones won't. They aren't knocking over refugee boats for fun.
        >these ones have no families here, they will be assumed drowned.
        >don't let a spec of blood surface. take them out to the deep before you feast.
        >if you fail they will kill us all.

        >They speak language
        So do rats. Seriously.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >limbic
          this is the only part that truly matters when defining personhood, anon, and theirs has developed so far beyond ours that they even have an outgrowth of it which the human brain lacks entirely

          >knocking over refugee boats for fun
          social predators have an ingrained tendency to expend precious energy through idle play for the sake of bonding, and they are likely the single most prosocial species ever to have lived
          seeing what frighteningly efficient hunters they are, "wasted" energy is also likely of near-zero consequence
          that being said, there are disturbingly plentiful legends of extremely vicious whales, and myths such as the qallupilluit, a pale/sickly-green woman with long black hair (pic related) who would pop up from the underworld (the sea) and drag unwary children into the depths, are particularly chilling
          perhaps the orcas, witnessing the carnage that was industrial whaling, took the message and added humans to their NOT-prey list; maybe they even took it as an act of divine retribution on our part?
          on the other hand, fishing tribes of the northern pacific venerated the orca as ocean gods and even reincarnated chiefs; a strange thing to do if they weren't friendly back then, too
          perhaps, then, all the horrible stories of whales were only ever products of human paranoia blaming the huge baleens for the work of storms out at sea and blaming the inquisitive orca for disappearances near coasts?
          perhaps they really are simply wise enough to tell at a glance that we are people just like them? it'll be hard to know with any certainty until their language is cracked and we can ask them ourselves
          as for the high-frequency "language" of rats, isn't that simple emotional signaling like a cat's meowing, purring and hissing? dolphins, and particularly the orcas, seem to have actual grammar at work which has truly revolutionary implications if true

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The limbic system is the defining trait of the dumb animal. The frontal lobe is what makes you human. Mastering yourself is forcing your mind to operate entirely rationally and independent of the limbic system's whining. This is why orcas have existed longer than humans without accomplishing more than eating fish.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              orcas have gotten stuck at the pre-lithic stage ONLY because their bodies are shaped like fish, binding them to the ocean, because they are already god-like superpredators in their world without the aid of tools and because their most sophisticated means of manipulating the world around them is a pair of bone-crushing jaws
              the complexity of the limbic system is what determines compassion and self-awareness; if the brain has a "soul sector", this is it, and the orca limbic system dwarfs ours even when scaled for bodysize

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                souls were an evolutionary mistake

                the most evolved social organism has no compassion whatsoever and makes decisions based entirely on efficiency and survival. orcas will never progress because they are overly concerned with each others feelings and vague bullshit like nature worship. their frontal lobes are small relative to the rest of their brain and they will never be rational actors.

                some of the dumbest humans on earth can make sharper cost:benefit analyses than an orca without worrying about compassion. some of the smartest as well. that is why we are the dominant species and they are the endangered one.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                what matter is dominance to an unfeeling ant?
                if you lose your soul, you will be little more than part a stale natural phenomenon

                No animals have a soul despite potentially having the capacity for it with high encephalization and prefrontal cortex analogs.

                we either hold different definitions of "animal" or different definitions of "soul"

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >the most evolved social organism has no compassion whatsoever and makes decisions based entirely on efficiency and survival.
                Ants show compassion and will rescue fellow wounded workers from their enemies.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                no we don't t. zhang

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No animals have a soul despite potentially having the capacity for it with high encephalization and prefrontal cortex analogs.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        orcas have something supporting their empathy that we don't. they can see inside bodies. they can't de-orcaize things like humans can dehumanize things because they immediately see how similar all mammals are.

        humans rely on human-like facial cues to trigger their sense of empathy instead and don't realize that what they killed was anything like them until they lop off its head and hang it up to bleed except for a select few species that are also social predators. we used to think whales were fish, but whales would never mistake humans for anything but fellow mammals.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          indeed, our shared combination of mammalian traits and sapience is almost certainly what gave the orcas such a soft spot for us
          add to that the fact that we are of the "above world" from which they draw life but cannot ever enter, and it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to imagine them seeing us as visitors from the afterlife

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw you'll never have your way with her disembodied foot after Tilikum spits it out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the only thing that "orca trainer" creature's foot is good for is burning

  11. 1 month ago
    /r/

    Spine obliterated

  12. 1 month ago
    /r/

    Why are they standing on the baby? The dude is as big if not bigger. There denting it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they're assholes

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's Malia, she is 15 now, her head is fine thankfully

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        i can guarantee you that after 15 years of living in a fish tank, her head's anything but fine

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think large intelligent mammals belong in aquariums. Retarded fish like sharks and shit are fine (if they don't need to roam hundreds of miles like great whites.)
    Small seals and otters are fine if they get a large space and lots of human interaction.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Retarded fish like sharks
      Sharks are pretty clever, though, and their relatives, stingrays, even more so. Manta rays are IIRC amongst the smartest, if not the single smartest fish and capable of interacting with humans in an intelligent fashion ('Hey, that thing has manipulating flippers with oposable miniflippers! Let's ask it to remove THIS FUCKING HOOK FROM MY EYE!')

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have never understood why they don’t make ponds for them, pond hobbiest will make several acre ponds

    Why can’t sea world just make a several acre salt pond?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How will they profit from ticket sales?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because their main concern is profit, not the well being of the animals or even staff

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Who says they want to swim that far every day?
    Humans were running like 40 km every day to hunt for food, now we are happy to stay on 40m2 and never go out

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >now we are happy to stay on 40m2 and never go out
      but we aren't really, and it isn't good for our mental or physical health

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      40m^2 is bigger relative to us than what they get
      >typical seaworld tank is 86' x 51' or 4386 ft^2
      >tilikum was about 15ft wide and 23 ft long
      >you could fit a little less than 13 of him side by side in a rank

      >a large human is around 2ft wide and 1ft in depth
      >an equivalent size room for that human would be 25.42 ft^2
      >even if you do a really fat human that is 3ft wide and 2ft in depth, that's still only 76 ft^2

      could you live your entire life in a series of 5x5-9x9 rooms without going crazy?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Difference is you have entertainment
      Imagine it’s like solitary confinement with a few other people
      Imagine having to live in The Room

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I heard they have a new setup where they live partially in an ocean bay that’s a natural stop on their migration pattern, coming to visit every year before swimming on their way.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't they have multiple connected tanks?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >killed someone in 1991
    >killed someone in 1999
    >killed someone in 2010
    >every 10 years he got a taste for blood
    was he the first Orca serial killer?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me
      But unironically.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't think they kept them any more at all

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    fucking disgusting

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because orcas are bitches and we have full dominion over them. Inferior creatures have no rights.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      your mom has no rights

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        now I imagine bob marley singing this with the melody of no woman no cry

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      maybe domesticate em first eh

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Tickly Cum did nothing wrong.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >On February 20, 1991, Byrne was working a shift at Sealand of the Pacific when she slipped and fell into the whale pool.
      >[Witnesses said] that Byrne screamed and panicked after realizing that one of the whales (later identified as Tilikum) was holding her foot and dragging her underwater.
      >[The witness] claimed to have heard Byrne screaming "I don't want to die!" while her eyes went wide in the water.
      >Rescue attempts were thwarted by the whales, who refused to let Byrne go even after she was believed to have fallen unconscious in the water.
      holy based

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tillikum is responsible for 60% of all deaths from orcas (3 out of 5).
        No orca has killed a human in the wild.
        Tillikum also sired 75% of orcas born in captivity.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >no orca has killed a human in the wild
          With witnesses.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          well tbf they probably would if we killed them
          i mean i wouldn't blame em
          they likely have a sense of being preyed upon

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >if we killed them
            we did, we killed the fuck out of them. orcas were mostly killed on sight for most of human history, the US navy admits to having purposely killed hundreds of them with guns and explosives. it's only relatively recently that killing them has been discouraged

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I guess the navy wasnt always gay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                killin cool animals is pretty gay

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >we did, we killed the fuck out of them. orcas were mostly killed on sight for most of human history
              No. The US Navy was told my fishermen in Iceland that Orcas were vicious monsters that attacked boats on sight, and back then people were obviously fucking retarded and oblivious.
              In reality, the Icelandic fishermen hates Orcas for ripping up their nets.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Based Icelanders reprogramming the golems to do their bidding.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >the US navy admits to having purposely killed hundreds of them with guns and explosives
              Source? This sounds hilarious

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If he sired most of them then they share his genetic memories. Orcas will never forget.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            that is why humanity must act quickly and set things as right as possible before our gregarious guardian angels become elusive ghosts at "best" and bloodthirsty avengers at worst
            orca abduction are still a relatively new phenomenon, but it won't take long before they start catching on species-wide that we're systematically ripping their children from them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they aren't goolds dude

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >my bro

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The whale had, for example, gnawed on the man's penis until it fell off, appearing to have eaten the genitalia as it was never discovered in the water, and left numerous contusions and bruises on Dukes' corpse.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You missed the part where they found him that morning parading the dead body on his back.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >said byrne (first victim) died because they dont know how humans breathe and she was a fun plaything
          >said dukes was a dirty bum harassing the animals and got what he fucking deserved
          holy shit these people are the pitbull owners of sea mammals
          >HE WAS TRYING TO NANNY THEM

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they don't ever (ever) do it in the wild
            captive, and especially captive-born orcas are stuck in what can only be described as hell once their staggering intellect is taken into account

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Uh oh, looks like somebody was fucking the sea life.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The most interest part about this is how the Orca was just trying to drown her instead of ripping her to shreds.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I mean have you seen the Kasatka attack that was filmed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv2_OX4Soeg

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I dont want to die!
        Do people really say cliche things like this while dying? I get “save me!” “help me!” “im dying!” etc but seriously?
        Next thing she probably said was “Im too young to die!”

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          When i get spooked i say very loudly “nooo” and some other dumb shit.
          and i dont see whats weird about people screaming for help when they’re in danger. Honestly its kind of dumb to think that you’re gonna say something meaningful and poetic when you’re about to die a violent death

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >he won't die a violent death just after calmly saying " 'tis a shame that being the tide this low I drown in a sea of darkness, oh cruel irony"

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Didn't you see the clip of the guy who tried to rob that store being stabbed? As the guy was stabbing him he goes
          >Ah shit bro he got me, I'm dead. I'm dead...

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Brancheau was killed following a Dine with Shamu show.
        >The veteran trainer was rubbing Tilikum as part of a post-show routine when the orca grabbed her by her ponytail and pulled her into the water.
        >Some witnesses reported seeing Tilikum grab Brancheau by the arm or shoulder.
        >He reportedly scalped her then bit off her arm and swallowed it during the attack.
        I see this brave Orca has adopted the traditions of the native American Chinook tribe from which it took its name.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Surfing the little one
    The duck is this bigger doing?

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is why wild orcas dont kill humans

    It's a warning

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they don't kill humans because they are based
      putting an orca in an amusement park should be punished by firing squad

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Based actually correct joke.
      If you catch a feral alpha dog and beat the shit out of it and release it the pack won't fuck with you.
      If take even a low ranking feral dog and trap him in a miserable situation long enough he will eventually snap and attack.
      Shit, I used a flashlight to continually wake a fish that killed my favorite fish and he was banging against the glass at my face trying to kill me by the second night.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because orcas can travel up to 100 miles in their tank just like the ocean
    What's the problem?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >pacing back and forth 2400 times is the same as walking in a straight line

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i thought they got shut down after one of em killed their feeder

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Did these people get away with it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think the one on the left got eaten

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/AL6I8dr.png

        >On February 20, 1991, Byrne was working a shift at Sealand of the Pacific when she slipped and fell into the whale pool.
        >[Witnesses said] that Byrne screamed and panicked after realizing that one of the whales (later identified as Tilikum) was holding her foot and dragging her underwater.
        >[The witness] claimed to have heard Byrne screaming "I don't want to die!" while her eyes went wide in the water.
        >Rescue attempts were thwarted by the whales, who refused to let Byrne go even after she was believed to have fallen unconscious in the water.
        holy based

        lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >On February 20, 1991, at Sealand of the Pacific in Victoria, British Columbia, a young part-time trainer named Keltie Byrne fell into the tank. The large male orca Tilikum rushed over and grabbed her foot and pulled her into the water (according to eyewitness accounts in the movie Blackfish). Two smaller female orcas (Haida II, Nootka IV) were also in the tank. The trainer was dragged into the water and was pushed and thrown around the pool. All three animals barred her escape, continuously blocking her path and dragging her back into the center of the tank. It was several hours before Byrne's body could be recovered.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        supposedly the females were bullying him (orcas are a matriarchial species) and that turned him into an incel

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >orcas are a matriarchial species
          imagine, orca femdom...

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's a great park but they should def get rid of the whales and dolphins.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are.
      The ones they have left are believed to not be able to survive in the wild.
      No new orcas are being caught or bred.

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