>not even plants like to be eaten, to the point they evolve bad taste, poison and thorns
>Meanwhile we created many animals whose sole purpose is to be fatty and plump to be eaten
>not even plants like to be eaten, to the point they evolve bad taste, poison and thorns
Does anything like to be eaten?
Furries with a vore fetish?
Many plants developed fruit as a method of reproduction, since animals would eat their fruit and deficate the seeds across a wide region. Thus allowing the plant to spread.
Is there anyone who looks at living animals and thinks "yum, I want to eat that"? I know my cat does and I was thinking about how weird of a thing that is to me. I'll eat meat but I've never looked at a live cow and had thoughts about eating it.
There's a scene in the "Bon Appetit! Gerard Depardieu's Europe" documentary where he comments how tasty a veal looks and tells a cow he's gonna eat her. Could be that he was jocking around but I think he genuinely feels like it. In the documentary he also visits farmers and frequently meets the animals before eating them, too.
> he comments how tasty a veal looks and tells a cow he's gonna eat her
Depardieu le boustifailleur https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUuFKtl9ajk
He basically says "I'm going to eat this" during all the video. Yes, even the jellyfish.
I'm pretty sure he ate a human baby once.
>le casseur de chiottes
I'd forgotten how much he talked to the animals
>looks at living animals and thinks "yum, I want to eat that"?
Despite hating seafood, certain live healthy scallops look appetizing. So does the perfect meat nugget you get when the eyes & organs are removed. Oysters don’t, so I’m not sure what about the looks of scallops is so appealing to me even though I can’t stand the actual flavor.
Sometimes newborn birds/mammals look tasty, but I think it’s just from being bite-sized soft pink blobs. Several species of garden gnomeel caterpillars also look appealing, but I think that’s more from associating that look with candy and jam than an instinct. Sometimes small plump skinks and geckos also fall in that category, but not consistently. The looks aren’t appealing, but the smell of hooded nudibranchs and maybe binturongs are enticing enough to want to sample the animal too. Though, knowing the latter’s scent is from the piss in its fur does make it gross again.
Honestly though, most animals look tasty when you’re hungry enough.
It's a doggy dog world
And then they end up being one of the most widespread species due to them being bred and transported all around the globe. Both livestock and crops. Plants evolve fruit specifically to be tasty and edible looking so that animals can shit their seeds out elsewhere. It's not too far off of the same idea. Plants don't give a fuck that you're eating them as long as their species survives and thrives.
Whats really fucked up is the plants that try the hardest not to be eaten are the ones we want the most. We dig their babies our of the ground, we eat the strongest-tasting onions, hell we give ourselves capsaicin chemical burns just to eat those sweet, sweet peppers.
There are only three foods that are specifically created with the intent that they be eaten: fruit, honey, and milk. Do with this information what you will.
do nuts count?
No. Nuts are technically fruits but they're not grown with the express intent that animals eat them in the same way as plants that rely on animals eating their fruits as a means of seed dispersal. When you eat a nut, you're not (theoretically) helping disperse seeds; you're just destroying the entire thing.
This is an important distinction because plants that spread via nuts have developed a variety of chemical deterrents to try to prevent their nuts from being eaten, most of which are not very good for you. When it comes to plants, either the plant wants to be eaten and is good for you, or doesn't want to be eaten and has a variety of methods to protect itself (tannins, oxalates, etc).
This is also why meat is good for you, because the defense mechanism for an animal is purely physical - they try to run away or fight you. If you overcome these defenses, the meat itself doesn't contain any harmful defense compounds the way vegetables or seeds or nuts do.
>Tea: Haha I will evolve tannins to make consuming my leaves unpleasant!
>The British Empire: allow me to introduce myself
>the meat itself doesn't contain any harmful defense compounds
That's true for some animals, but there are most definitely animals with poisonous meat out there.
What are we supposed to eat if we can't even eat plant ?
I think it was an old dennis miller bit where hes joking about scientist discovering plants make an ultra sonic scream when they're eaten and vegans can now only eat hair.
The bugs
Honestly wished we could not do that, I'm not vegan but I always felt plants were done dirty, so many just outright refuse any idea that may have something within them, not all for sure but just to study if It could is enough to get shrugs and laughs, I wonder if one day plants will be able to communicate to us directly in a way our brain can comprehend and not just hormones or whatever
A song cannot be enjoyable without the gaps between the notes, and the ending is not the most important part of the song. The end comes when the song is over, and just the same, our death awaits after the last note of life has left us. All things should enjoy the song while it plays.
go vegan
Nah I'm going for rocks, plants are cool
Plants don't want to be eaten either.
they don't like anything, there's no conscious motives behind it
the ones not eaten for some mutation that made them less palatable just spread their genes more, it's a logical and automatic mechanism
You just have to accept that life is an endless plane of suffering all the way down to the microbial level.
This. You shouldn't actively cause suffering, but refraining from doing something just because suffering is involved is stupid; and veganfags will never be able to square the circle of:
>if we stopped eating meat, all of the livestock we currently raise for meat would have to be culled en masse simply because there is no reason for their existence anymore
>if they were set free, they'd just be preyed upon by some other carnivore
The cows die in pain either way.
Its disgusting that they will suffer if we eat them or suffer if we dont but taking part in it is the same as condoning that suffering, its disgusting. You embrace whats disgusting and so you become disgusting
suffering builds character. you dont want yo be a little baby child forever do you
Im not crazy enough to believe that suffering is good yet, come back to me in a few years
>You embrace whats disgusting and so you become disgusting
Disgusting is decided by people, and the majority of people have decided eating cows is fine.
The majority of Indians think shitting in the street is fine, it doesnt make it any less disgusting. It aint decided by others no matter their number, its decided by yourself
Some advocate for ending carnivory in general.
>Be plant.
>Get eaten by hoomans
>No pls I'm plant 🙁
>Get inbred until you are a deformed dysgenic corny horror for the sole purpose of being eaten
>Get eaten by hoomans.
Sorry plants, we were made better what can we do about it?
I'm still baffled by this.
At which point do you even decide to make a better crop from something that has barely anything to eat to begin with?
Or maybe it was cultivated in huge quantities like today's rice is and then made huge?
most of what we eat had barely anything to eat until we started selectively breeding it, this probably just had better results than most
People weren't eating maize on the cob. The ground it into flour and meal. Its a grain like barley or wheat.
Through selective breading they selected for bigger seeds which were easier to mill untill eventually you got big ears of corn that we recognize as "corn" today.
Also "corn" was just a generic term for grain crops (if you've ever read caesar's commentaries on the gaul campaign you'll notice he relies on tributes of corn from concquered tribes despite what we think of corn still being a thousand years away in the new world).
When euros eventually got to the new world they had no name for this weird alien grain so they applied the most generic term to it which stuck.
>When euros eventually got to the new world they had no name for this weird alien grain so they applied the most generic term to it which stuck.
The modern usage of the word "corn" in American English is a shortening of "Indian corn", i.e. the corn (grain) that the Indians (Native Americans) grew and ate, to distinguish it from other types of corn. Corn, kernel, and grain all come from the same Indo-European root word.
For the ancestor of corn in particular, besides turning them into alcohol, one of the theories about why to cultivate that random plant in particular come from how much more delicious smelling and tastier it suddenly became when you dropped hot ashy stones into your cooking vessel to heat up your teosinte gruel. Basically, soaking maize in a really alkaline solution (usually made from pale ash or superheating chalk) will break down the chemical bonds enough that it frees up loads of nutrients and also the proteins that allow you to turn it into a nice stretchy dough as well as removing/killing most of a super common toxic mold that can ruin foods even while they are still on the plant (or later in storage).
Having more nutritious food that can be stored away for a long time, has a lowered risk of killing you, and is tasty enough, will increase the likelihood that you’ll survive long enough to cultivate more of that plant.
Where do I learn more about this stuff? This is interesting.
The nixtamalization article on wikipedia is a pretty decent starting point for more detail on the process and history. Searching for texts mentioning nixtamal meal may also help find more history.
The articles on aflatoxin and mycotoxins are a bit less detailed, but are still a good summary about the mold I mentioned.
A lot of edible plants native to the americas need a bunch of processing to not be toxic or to remove anti-nutrients, so just picking a few off a list and researching the preparation for them will lead ya down a rabbit hole of how tf did anyone ever figure out how to eat this shit. This also applies to edible plants all over the world, but it can be surprisingly difficult to get more detail sometimes on the “why” something is cooked a particular way and the problems that can come from eating it raw or mixed with certain other things.
oh, and other topics to look into are home canning safety and fermentation.
Two good books I’ve read recently that ate sorta on this general topic of edible plants history are “The Art of Fermentation” by Sandor Katz and “The Whole Okra” by Chris Smith.
>OH MY GOD I POSTED THIS SCARY WOJAK OH MY GOD AND I POSTED SOMETHING THAT ONLY A 7-YEAR-OLD WOULD GET DISTURBED BY OH MY GOD OH MY GOD SOMEBODY SAVE ME
You've got to be 25 to post here, kid
So I'm not the only one who's noticed how underage and edgy Wauf is
Well I guess it was always that way but you don't notice it until you grow out of being underage and edgy
You're never the only one. One day you'll notice this, too
>not even plants like to be eaten
Except the ones that do, plenty of plants require their fruit to be eaten as part of the seed dispersal process. Sometimes they need to pass through the gut of something in order to germinate.
The plant don’t want to be eaten, it specifically produces a fruit as a bribe:
>Please don’t eat my babies, take this tasty fruit as payment and take my babies to a good place where they can grow.
Then as the monster you are you take the fruit and enjoy its sweet flesh. Then instead of taking the babies to a nice place you roast them alive.
It's not a bribe to save the seeds retard. The seeds are inside the fruit so they are also eaten.
The plant literally evolved to have its seeds eaten to disperse them how hard is that to understand?
The seed are swallowed but expected to be carried whole and alive, not roasted and chewed you retard.
>be a capsicum plant
>evolve Hispanice to deter mammalian predation
>humans like it for some reason
>evolved trait backfires
>actually become wildly more successful because of it
>backfires
>wildly successful
Hmm
the adaptation didnt do what it was meant to do
It wasn’t meant to do anything
It was just a random genetic difference that proliferated because it bothered mammals (which crush seeds) but not birds (which don’t). by all means if it ever had a purpose because of the pepper plant gestalt hivemind operating on the mycelial network, it was to maximize seed dispersion in which case it worked.
capsaicin is an anti-fungal, they aint working with those dirty mushrooms, each capsicum is their own plant
You're right. It failed upwards and now will likely be carried by Humans into space. If only we could be so lucky.