>Native to the western two-thirds of the United States, coyotes began dramatically expanding their range in the early 1900s. They’ve increased their habitat across North America by 40 percent since the 1950s—twice the rate of any other North American carnivore—and now live in every U.S. state but Hawaii. The near-extinction of wolves, the crash of the coyote pelt market, and the explosion of food-rich suburbs fueled their rise, as did their innate tenacity forged by a million years of evolution.
So, what would happen if someone released a few dozen breeding pairs of coyotes into Europe? Asking for a friend.
In Central and Eastern Europe they would probably just get killer or bred by jackals.
Odds are they'll give some kind of disease to the golden jackals. More than likely, they'll expand in all directions from wherever released and you'll get a gradient of coyote/golden jackal genetics around where the two expanding populations meet.
>The yote FEARS the wolf
I hate it
All the canine species seem to hate each other. I've watched the coyotes here chase down foxes. Now there's only coyotes around.
Coyote bros we just can't stop winning!!!
Wonderful book on this very topic. Highly recommend.
These "Coyotes" are actually mutts of different canine species. Probably dog and wolf-like traits give them an advantage when spreading south.
That's how canine evolution (and evolution in general) has worked for millions of years anyway.
I wouldn't say "in general". Look at felids. Like many clades, hybrids are generally infertile. A la mules.
Even when it's not a reproductive dead end, in many animals, the offspring will have an abundance of chromosomal anomalies that have not undergone selection pressure. The individuals will experience all of this selection pressure coming down on it at once like a grand piano.
I fucking hate americans
I really enjoyed reading this thread. I live in the suburbs so coyotes are and interesting occurrence when seen but unless you have a small dog or outdoor cat they aren’t typically going to impact your life. Very interesting to get the farm/ranch perspective. Thank you for your thoughts and stories.
>coyotes
Please. It's American Howling Retriever.
I would describe yote noises as more of a shriek than a howl
>meep meep
Coyotes do well in farmland. We made a lot of what was forest into farmland. No big wonder why they moved in. Shoot a few of them every year. Their decent practice since their small and clever. Keep the numbers down and their no issue. It's when their starving and/or no longer fearful of people that they become an issue.
Learn english, you sound like an immigrant
I write simply to make sure you retards understand.
My thoughts on the pit bull/bull-type terrier question.
People wrongly assume that these dogs are gentle. In reality, pit bulls are one of the most aggressive dog breeds, capable of inflicting fatal damage on humans and other animals.
Pit bulls are not suitable for homes with children, as these dogs are known to attack without warning. Additionally, these dogs have a high propensity for biting and should be muzzled when in public spaces or around other animals.
Pit bulls have been called “the most dangerous dog in the world” and “the perfect dog for dog fighting.” Fortunately, breeders have been working to breed pit bulls more mellow and able to work effectively as house pets. However, it is important to remember that these dogs are still pit bulls, and should be treated as such in situations where their aggression may be misconstrued.
Ultimately, the future of pit bulls is in question, and whether or not these dogs will be accepted throughout the United States remains to be seen. However, efforts to educate the public about the dangers of these dogs, and the proper way to care for them, are essential in making sure everyone is kept safe.
Today, pit bulls are best suited for coyote hunting. Coyotes are a smaller and faster predator that is growing in number and is encroaching on the territory of many US citizens. In fact, in some areas, coyote hunting is the only viable option for pit bulls intent on defending their turf.
Though some may view coyote hunting as inhumane, it is the only realistic solution for pit bulls who are not fit for the modern world. Coyotes pose a significant threat to humans and domesticated animals alike. By targeting coyotes, pit bulls are helping to protect their community and preserve their natural predators.
coyotes are harmless to people and mostly provide free pest control, removing neglected and stray nuisance animals. they can harm livestock but the government compensates farmers for their financial loss and honestly we produce 10x more meat than we actually need and eat 8x more meat than we actually need, throwing away that last 10x as spoiled waste. if farmers only produced as much meat as people had to eat it would be easier to keep their flocks safe and they would not need to wage a pointless war against natural animals that were there before humans and have more of a right to the land than some shitty city bugmen.
Analogy: It's like saying that if we only drove as fast as other drivers, then crashes would not happen.
>If only you did not exceed the speed limit like safety experts recommended, fewer crashes would happen
Yes, that is literally correct. And if we ate less meat like dietary experts recommended, american ranchers would not be engaged in as much pointless genocidal conflicts with wildlife. And you would live longer, not die at 50 from coronary disease.
Save a yote, eat a salad.
Ranchers are the scum of the earth. First off, they are welfare queens, their industry and all its hardships are heavily subsidized by the government because there are some wealthy individuals among them paying for politicians campaigns, and america has a culture that worships "cowboys". They act like every single last head of faggy cow/sheep is standing between society and total starvation but we do not need even 1/4 of their product to live and between their feed consumption on their home range and how much ranching takes place on arable land, farming animals for meat takes up more potential food and water for people and everything people care about than it produces.
Ok commie, get a job.
>"commie"
>t. welfare queen that needs daddy government to coddle his "industry"
Ranching is the most leftist shit in farming. Omg i care for my widdle animals. They're so free range. I love muh animals. Please care about us heckin ranchers. Coyotes are bad they torture the poor cowie wowies. You need me for ur organic free range meats so you can care about animals too. Omg daddy gubermint pls kill the wolves for us we lost 5 cows this year out of our 5000 and you already paid for them we know but help us anyways we're heckin scared.
Meanwhile wheatchads just bulldoze a square of forest and say "problem? enjoy starving then lmao" and do fun shit like pay people to shoot deer in their fields after they're done harvesting. Sometimes you can do it for free. Wheat is 10x more based than ranching.
>quotes in greentext
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>that filename
newfag redditor gtfo
A posting hipster with a gay hairdo and a shitty beard eating hipster steak isn't going to help your case. What's he gonna do wash it down with a craft beer and blog about it on the art of manliness?
The left can’t meme. This is the biggest cope I’ve ever seen.
>eating steak is le right wing
Then why do sois like rare steak so much
Most people enjoy eating rare steak. You can’t like something because people you don’t like like it? Fucking hipster.
They don't though. Its all leftists that advocate for veganism and vegetarianism. You are currently calling people basedboys for wanting to eat meat. Do you even realize how retarded you are?
if a leftist advocated for eating more beef and less chicken on the grounds of reducing animal suffering would you give up burgers for KFC?
>veganism and vegetarianism
>stop eating a shitton of livestock
>veganism and vegetarianism
like diamond rings and clover-free monoculture lawns, the livestock revolution is an artifice of the hebrew corporate oligarchy and has been a disaster for the human race
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16441938/
humans eat a shitton of nuts and delicious tender fatty fish. also fishing triggers vegans more than anything because you drag fish out of the water by a hook and then beat them to death. they would rather you eat free range cows.
~~*.gov*~~
Still eating beef, cry about it you false-flagging israelite
>magic meat, make my penis grow and give me power.
>only israelite say thing against it!
this is how the chinese view eating dogs but replace israelite with white devil israelite slave. and mongolians were rapist manlets, and they never founded a lasting civilization or cultural tradition.
the true chads of history ate a much more varied diet than the modern american, and beef was considered a luxury item because the cow breeds at the time were smaller and more expensive to raise, and were more valued as working animals and dairy producers than burger. fish was a staple, goat was for complete and utter poorfags, mutton was average, pork was their favorite, and they were great fans of a large variety of lean fowl that would make american's chicken habit look like a nutrient-poor joke, preferring goose. rabbit was popular and they were the ones who domesticated it.
americans are, dietarily, manchildren, who eat chicken when they want to loose weight and beef when they want to feel more masculine than they actually are, because they think it makes them a cowboy and caveman at the same time. meanwhile your ancestors ate freshly killed mammoth instead of a cow bred to be fatter and more docile.
stop conflating meming with making jokes dummy
it's true that leftists can't make jokes, but they've memed hardcore for the last 400 years to the point where they even believe their own memes about how they're totally powerless and not literally the dominant ideology in the first world
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>Yes, that is literally correct. And if we ate less meat like dietary experts recommended, american ranchers would not be engaged in as much pointless genocidal conflicts with wildlife. And you would live longer, not die at 50 from coronary disease.
Explain how humans ate nothing but meat for 2 million years and were fine.
Also post body and lifts.
>he actually believes we all ate like inuit manlets
I cannot speak for all farmers, but I know many who raise livestock for meat who would disagree with you. Meat production requires a lot of space, feed, and water, and it often creates conflicts with wild animals such as coyotes. When herds of livestock graze on crops or other vegetation, they can damage crops or harm the natural environment. In some cases, farmers have to fight predators such as coyotes to protect their animals.
I disagree with the people who raise livestock for meat in the first place. There are too many people raising too much of it to meet hedonist demand that nobody needs, that is actively harming our people through ill health. Through sheer scale, ranching is decimating our environment, destroying plants and polluting the soil with unnatural heaps and leaks of cow shit and piss, and giving entitled welfare queen ranch princesses a shitty excuse to go around murdering what's left of the ecosystem because "GOARSH DOARN, I LOST 10 OUTTA 1000 CATTLE TO YOTES LAST YEAR AND THE GUBERMINT ONLY PAID ME 80% OF WHAT I WOULD HAVE MADE OUT OF ALL THAT PURE PROFIT".
Ranchers are the scum of the earth. We do not need them, and we would actually benefit if most of them went out of business and were replaced with broccoli farmers. Crop agriculture is not without its problems but it is ultimately less damaging than raising animals for meat, which is something we need very little of to survive (compared to the current american diet of 1-2 burgers a day).
Ranchers are the ones responsible for yote overproliferation in the first place. When they killed all the wolves off because muh kuttle durrrr they also killed off the natural barrier restraining coyotes to their old range and suppressing their numbers. Now coyotes are replacing the dead wolves, and coyotes are harder to get and breed faster especially when you disrupt their packs, compared to the very family oriented, slow-breeding wolves, so they will never get rid of them.
These new ranges for coyotes were never inhabited by grey wolves, unless you wanna go back a few thousand years, you sputtering mongoloid.
>unless you wanna go back before we started killing the wolves, retard!!!
many year of beer gut shitty beard man sitting on porch shooting coyote
more coyotes every year
beer gut shitty beard man stupid, spend too much money on AR-15, no need stainless barrel or $500 handguard, should spend money on fence instead.
six pack clean shaven man use M-1 Garand, shoot elk and people. not shoot coyote. scare them away. they not come back.
Ah yes, damn those red necks and their rolling coal changing the climate and shifting the wolf range a thousand years ago.
Meds.
Can you read nagger? It was red wolves not red necks.
Recreational coyote shooters can't even afford to tune a cummins or a diesel VW golf lmao, they spend all their money on accessories for a glorified .22 because and say "well i cant afford .308 ammo" when they just can't handle the recoil or actual difficult game
What extremely bizarre posturing
And no, wolves don't form a shoulder to shoulder impenetrable dragnet that prevents any coyote from ever passing.
Turns out coyotes thrive in the places that rats and racoons do. Human outskirts.
veganism is communism
Coyotes have killed people before are as this Anon
said are a plague to farmers. I have no problem with them 90% of the time but people who have live stock or small children should be allowed to shoot any coyotes on their property in my opinion.
coyotes have killed like 3 people and ranchers are whiny welfare queens we could live without
>live without meat
Sorry but I’m not going to eat the bug Klaus.
Most meat doesn’t come from ranches. The stuff you need to live comes from factory farms. Ranching is a luxury industry and leftists love it
>free range!!!
There are no factory farms for cattle. They grow too slow.
Nope. Cattle enter the stockyards from anywhere from 0 days to 1 year of age. Range time is totally optional. Cattle do not need to walk around and graze, and I don't see why the emotional needs of a cow would be greater than the life of a coyote either. You already eat it so its life's value is null, your eating it is an admission that you do not believe it is aware it has a life and has no right to life.
I only eat beef thats had a rich and fulfilling life
Grass fed, free range meat tastes much better and I believe it contains a vitamin that factory onions fed meat typically lacks.
>inb4 free range meat tastes exactly the same
Just because it says its free range at the supermarket doesn't mean it actually is.
Coyotes aren’t a threat to cattle unless they don’t have access to fodder near their water (which causes them to hide their newborns instead of guarding them). The feedlot cattle are the cattle that are ecological disasters. Ranged cattle and pastured cattle are far less injurious to the land.
Cattle and coyotes share the land just fine, ranchers shoot coyotes for eating cats and sheep.
why would anyone shoot a natural and beneficial animal that stays out of your way for eating an invasive pest that replaces a trivial amount of some other pests with its own brand of filth and disease
Because they will kill calves, and dogs, and cats, and really anything they can. If you don't manage their numbers mother nature does. That cruel bitch does it via starvation. Starving animals will try to eat pretty much anything.
>calves
So seldom as to be essentially never, and only in circumstances that are easily avoidable through better husbandry and herd management. They scavenge calves.
>dogs
A good dog, never. I’ve had 3 dogs that would bring me dead yotes (two of which were 130 lb LGDs, but one of which is a 50 lb Shepherd bitch) and I’ve never lost a dog to a yote, though I know they do eat little companion dogs and rock dumb retrievers.
>If you don't manage their numbers mother nature does. That cruel bitch does it via starvation.
If you don’t shoot your resident yotes, they reach an equilibrium because a female yote in estrus releases a variable number of ovum depending on how much howling happens in the area. If you shoot most of the yotes, they have up to 10 pups a litter and if the yotes are left alone, they average closer to 3. This is an adaptation they evolved while trying to coexist with Anocyon dirus and later Canis lupus, because both larger canids would eat coyotes, leading to increased reproductive numbers as a survival strategy, but in wastelands without large game, the larger canids don’t predate on coyotes (since they don’t live there) and coyotes need to reproduce slower in order to not eat all the hares and starve to death. This can be exploited, playing lots of coyote calls during the mating season (February, here) will depress the fertility of your local coyotes, especially if you get all the neighbors to do it. Drives my herding dogs bananas though.
T. Have run angus for 30 years if you start from when I started showing in 4H.
>Coyotes don't predate on calves, or dogs, and mother nature doesn't use starvation as the control method for predators.
You are another jackass who's full of shit. The land can support a dozen coyotes, even with a small litter size that dozen is going to easily triple. When winter hits 24 of those need to die because the land cannot support them. With nothing eating them what's going to happen? Their going to starve to death, a starving animal is a desperate one.
the better point is that any dog a coyote eats was probably better off dead anyways
free roaming farm dogs bit me five times when i was a kid for... bicycling down the road. fuck em.
Are you black or something?
You don’t understand how social animals function. They don’t all breed every year and besides, there is attrition
If you area can support 12 Coyotes, in a healthy population, two or three females will have 2 or 3 pups each spring, of which ~30% will die before weaning for various reasons, and two or three adults are likely to die of old age or misfortune (lots get kicked to death by livestock and rutting cervids), leading to an annual surplus of 0-3 coyote yearlings, which will then disperse (and most of those will die). Your area with 12 adult coyotes will probably receive a transient youngster of its own, and the residents will kill or integrate it, depending on how food secure they feel.
You are making shit up and trying to tell someone who has decades of actual experience dealing with these animals how it is. No shit they don't breed all year, you just read that on some furry website city fag?
>and two or three adults are likely to die of old age
Coyotes don't die in old age homes, as I keep telling you they fucking starve to death when they get too old to hunt or when there just isn't enough food around. Nature does not provide just because their hungry and they out breed their local areas holding capacity as a rule. If you do nothing to manage them you will have desperate starving animals destroying your livestock and pets. The solution to this is to manage their numbers via shooting, trapping, or poisoning. This is not some new idea, it is time tested and proven, unlike the Disney bullshit you are spewing.
>time tested and proven
Coyote populations are still growing after decades of "proven" tactics. You have not accomplished anything except accidentally shooting some hikers huskies and killing children and pets with surprise cyanide traps. It's open season on them nationwide and their numbers are still growing.
The "disney bullshit" is the method that actually reduces coyote numbers. As usual americans can't accomplish anything because they're china levels of retarded when it comes to their penis enlargement magic.
>dumb. liberal. disney. you onions.
>me making self manlier. kill animal, strong warrior, penis grow.
>chinaman: eat rhino horn, do same thing.
>managing population = extermination
Nice strawman homosexual. Let me know when your plan to do nothing and hope it works out, but not like it did every other time people couldn't be bothered to manage coyote populations goes.
>the growing population is managed guise
it has been the opinion of everyone with a degree that killing coyotes is not effective until you engage in total extermination and hunt every last one down. the usual chinese penis enlargement ritual is shooting the dogs when they are seen near your property, and it's notoriously ineffective. permanent population reductions occur with carefully targeted killings of breeding females rather than any coyote shaped object in cletus' walmart IR scope, and ironically, doing absolutely fucking nothing, because doing something but doing it like a retard has the opposite effect.
>it has been the opinion of everyone with a degree that killing coyotes is not effective until you engage in total extermination and hunt every last one down.
Retarded furry homosexual.
Pissmad manbaby
So you’re a trannie as well as furry? Phew lad.
>trannie
You need to stop looking for trannies everywhere or trannies will be all you find when you decide you’d rather have something else. I don’t need to be mentally ill to see you are mad af and not socially or mentally mature enough to recognize that you like the things you like and dislike the things you dislike for reasons other than what you use to justify your own beliefs to yourself.
Shoot coyotes if you want, but realize that it’s established wildlife and rangeland management knowledge that shooting coyotes is recreational and not an effective management strategy. The existence of annual “Coyote Jamborees” in many rural areas proves this.
But I expect you to stay malding that people don’t agree with you instead of doing just a bit of critical thinking.
>you tell me to do nothing if i'm not going to be an effective exterminator because my half assed redneck efforts have the opposite effect?
>YOU MUST FUCK COYOTES
A furry wouldn't have given you the coyote extermination option at all. Besides what me and the coyotes do at night is none of your business.
>/k/_finger_blasts_a_coyote.grntxt
>coyotes bond for life with the first thing they fuck
>makes them think they already mated so they won’t have any more pups
Based naturalists? Can this work if we shoot them and leave the coyotes alone?
>extermination option
Your claiming management via removal has failed because it's not causing extermination like a retard. It is not meant to exterminate them, it is mean to manage them. To keep their numbers at a level where the land can support them and reducing the chance they come into conflict with humans. Say whatever bullshit you want, the three I shot last week aren't going to rise from the dead and multiply but they eat too many mice to want to exterminate all of them. I want them well fed and afraid. Hunting them accomplishes this. Doing nothing does not.
Managing them this way doesn't fucking work. It never has. It never will. The population has steadily rose with this "management" for reasons clearly outlined. You just don't like the alternative because your sense of penis length is strongly tied to shooting 30lb dogs with a repeating .22.
It works well. They don't rise from the dead.
Then why are there even more coyotes now brainlet
Again, they do not rise from the dead so no they have not increased.
>but there's more now than 100 years ago so it's not working!
Do you have any idea how many hundreds of thousands of acres of forest we turned into farmland in that period? We took prime wolf habitat and turned it into prime coyote habitat, no shit their numbers went up.
So lets see some of your studies and people with degrees providing hard data that doing nothing to manage coyotes works. I would really love to see how predation mortality on sheep farms worked out when they did nothing to control predators. But wait you don't have any because you are some vegan city homosexual talking from your ass.
>they don't raise from the dead!
The ones you missed because you're a retarded yokel just fucked like crazy instead. Coyote populations go up every single year even when farmland shrinks. I'm telling you, leave your porch and track down their dens, or don't even bother.
Nice sources for your bullshit homosexual. Glad you've given up any pretext of having an argument beyond "I want to fuck coyotes so stop shooting them".
>Want to
should we tell him
Like a coyote is going to allow itself to be fucked by some soi city cuck.
Do you speak from experience?
The period I spent I the city being educated involved no coyote sex so yes? That was before cuckolding and furrys were a thing however. Peak goth girl times, life was good.
And now you're finding the coyote ladies can't stay out of your pants. I see. I see. Well, who am I to criticize what the people in the state of north north north east colorado do, if you can call them people, or call that a state. Whatever.
Dumb bitch, I’ve killed as many as 20 coyotes a year for their pelts (a prime xxl black phase can be worth $400), but I do it out in the dakotas where people are dumb enough to think that happy thoughts and a rifle will surely keep their population from expanding year over year, again (for the 130th straight year if you don’t count the parvovirus and distemper crashes) and the consequences of destroying their social structure are not my problem. Around my own 160 acre beef pasture operation (in Minnesota), I just listen to them howl and the numbers stay steady because of their natural social habits and biological reaction to those social habits. There’s no point in shooting coyotes for population control, a century of people trying and failing have proven this, you should hunt them as a resource (pelts) or for fun if you’re a psycho, but there is no point in “managing” coyotes for cattle. They don’t bother my calves and they don’t bother my dogs, and when they do get dumb ideas in their heads about the farmyard chickens, a sacrificed chicken injected with a syrup of ipecac marinade teaches the whole pack that chickens are inedible for a generation. My neighbors and I did the electrocall experiment to reduce their numbers during a distemper outbreak.
The only people who care about them here are the old retired dairymen who grow cat colonies, because the coyotes manage those for us, but none of those old farts can keep themselves from falling asleep behind their rifles, waiting for the coyotes to come in, so they don’t make an impact.
Everything I’ve said about their population dynamics is researched and studied by people who are paid by the sheep and goat farmers (people who can see large depredations from Coyotes) to figure out the best way to protect their caprinid herds from coyotes. Turns out that guns, traps, and poison aren’t effective.
>calves
Very rarely, government subsidized, and easily prevented
>Dogs
Only neglected ones. If your dog is outside at night someone has to shut it up. If your dog roams it was going to attack a child eventually so yotes were cleaning up the streets.
>Cats
Only neglected ones. Your cat should be confined indoors at night and never, ever leave your property. Roaming cats are pest animals so yotes are just cleaning up the streets.
So the problem is coyotes are a net benefit?
>and cats
So? They're doing you a favor. Do you have issues with coyotes eating rats and mice too?
Rats and mice aren't beneficial to humans, unlike cats, but like coyotes. But you knew that.
Rats, mice, and cats are not beneficial to humans. Coyotes prey on all 3 and with more zeal and higher kill rates than any of the 3 can accomplish when hunting each other.
Cats just replace their weight in rats with a cat that brings in its own parasites, shit, and piss, and attracts more pests and fosters disease with half-eaten kills. Did you ever think it was weird that despite this "pest control" animal mice and rats were always a persistent presence, and could often be seen playing around and eating with cats? That the best they ever accomplished was temporarily scaring mice out of a building, a task that requires they NEVER go outside or else they might scare the mice back into the building? That humans, despite this supposed natural and amazing beneficial animal, took every opportunity they could to replace it with poison that killed everything, including the supposedly beneficial animal?
Cats are like ferrets. A relic of primitive folly with no use today except making your house kind of smelly, best kept supervised and captive.
Cats are pets
if your pet dog is roaming around in other peoples yards it is a pest. any pest control or guarding function it has no longer exists, it may actually flush vermin out of the bushes and into your house, and guard your yard from you. cats aren't any different. they need to be kept in their owners property.
t. had rodents move into his shit because the neighbors cat start skulking around, leading them to leave the safety of the bushes and hide in my cat-free home.
Yeah but that's now how it always works. If a coyote kills your dog you kill it. If a dog kills your dog you kill it. Same with cats.
They need to grow as their sold by weight. What the hell kind of rancher sends day old calves to slaughter? There's no sense in that and I'm going to take a guess you pulled it from your ass. The value of their lives is as food, which is why people bred them in the first place. It's right to life is the same as any natural creature. They live until something kills them. Nature provides no rights, they are a construct of man.
He’s referring to the fact that there are large operations that keep beef on drylot their whole lives, hay and grains, never grass.
This is how most of the beef is grown in those big feed lots around Omaha. Sure, most of the cattle are steers from cow-calf pasture or range operations, but there are also cow-calf drylot operations in those complexes.
These animals have an outsized impact on the environmental friendliness of your average pound of beef, and I would be comfortable banning drylot operations, even though it would increase the price of Walmart hamburger by 50% (my beef would stay level, I already raise grass raised, grass finished angus and sell every animal my meadows and pasturages can support without degradation). The beef at these drylot operations isn’t as good and the animals are miserable and their concentrated and exposed living conditions makes them uniquely vulnerable to weather extremes
>He’s referring to the fact that there are large operations that keep beef on drylot their whole lives, hay and grains, never grass.
Nobody is sending day old calves to a feedlot. That's the dumbest shit ever. Also hay is grass jackass.
>eat 8x more meat than we actually need
fuck off commie.
>coyotes are harmless to people and mostly provide free pest control, removing neglected and stray nuisance animals.
And also pets, small mammals, livestock, unattended children...
Fuck coyotes. I would rather have wolves.
He has a point about the ranching, depending on where the ranching is taking place. Grazing cattle on arid and semi-arid areas (like the vast majority of the American west) is a god-awful shitshow from an environmental perspective but grazing cattle somewhere like Missouri is fine.
It's a pretty common thing. In the tiny town where I grew up (NTA, by the way) there were several places where the dogs were shitheels and the owners just didn't care. There was more than one incident where a passer-by got bitten (wanna play "guess the breed"?) and an antifreeze-laced steak was thrown over a fence after the owners refused to do anything to stop them from roaming the neighborhood. That said, there were also plenty of dogs that weren't fenced or tied up and were perfectly lovely. The librarian used to bring her old mutt to work and he would lay on the porch and beg kids for belly rubs.
>pets
only neglected yappers and pest cats
>small mammals
circle of life. most small mammals are pests.
>livestock
you can stop this by not being a retard
>unattended children
this is so rare i'm pretty sure golden retrievers have killed more people
>only neglected yappers and pest cats
Lmao no. Coyotes are clever and have brass balls and will break into fenced backyards to kill pets.
>circle of life. most small mammals are pests.
No, you fucking retard. Wolves generally ignore anything smaller than deer while coyotes subsist almost entirely on small mammals like woodchucks, beavers, etc. Those small mammals have been in a steep decline across the eastern US because naggeryotes have moved in to territory once occupied by wolves and killing the small animals that wolves generally ignore.
>you can stop this by not being a retard
Define "not being a retard", please. I've had naggeryotes literally scrabble up to the top of a chicken coop, use their bodyweight to collapse the run and then chew a hole in the floor to get into the locked coop. They're smart, tenacious and very happy to kill whatever they can get.
>this is so rare i'm pretty sure golden retrievers have killed more people
Correct. However, they've mauled a considerable number of people - especially children.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coyote_attack#On_children
>Lmao no. Coyotes are clever and have brass balls and will break into fenced backyards to kill pets.
At night when your mutt is barking up a storm. Based yotes.
>No no reeee
Survival of the fittest. These animals are nuisances.
>Not being a retard
Have you considered building a better coop
>A considerable number of maulings
Behold, a significantly more dangerous animal.
I know a guy who lost a shitzu/lahopsa mix in his back yard in front of his own eyes, because he’s a cuck who got caught lacking.
That dog was an indoor dog 90% of the time, he was just letting it out to go to the bathroom and it didn’t notice the wild canid until it was too late to escape.
If your dog is less than 20 lbs or stupid (or worst of all, both), it’s at risk from coyotes. If it isn’t, they aren’t a big deal.
>If it isn’t, they aren’t a big deal.
Yotes kill more dogs here than anything else. You can say those dogs were just stupid but coyotes are clever little fuckers and they are very good at killing. Even pairs of large dogs with multiple yote kills of their own eventually get taken down.
coyotes confirmed for muslims
Do they eat them?
If th Coyote is hungry and the dog is small, they may eat the dog, they certainly eat the cats they kill (fecal analysis shows that in the Los Angeles valley, domestic cat is over 40% of the Coyote diet at certain times of the year); but even if a Coyote is not hungry, it will kill a dog if it thinks it is able, for the same reasons coyotes will gang up on lone wolves or kill foxes, territoriality. Wolves and big dogs are obvious threats to Coyotes, especially when times are bad, so coyotes are disincentivized to allow them to encroach on their territory (if they can safely eliminate the wolf or dog, usually by attacking it as a pack), and small dogs/foxes compete for many of the same resources as Coyotes, so killing them frees up those resources for coyotes to exploit (this is why Wolves will kill and eat coyotes, too, it’s a dog eat dog world out there). Obviously in times of plenty, these rules relax some, otherwise hybrids couldn’t exist, but generally they don’t coexist peacefully.
Big dogs who are naturally wary are generally too difficult to for coyotes to safely target, but guileless big dogs do get killed by coyotes fairly regularly.
>Grazing cattle on arid and semi-arid areas (like the vast majority of the American west) is a god-awful shitshow from an environmental perspective
It can be, but it doesn’t have to be. An unscientific approach to grazing and water management (that is incentivized to be bad by federal land and water policy) cripples the efforts to improve the quality of the western rangelands. Some ranchers have taken the initiative to get the variances from BLM that they need (often working alongside the Sage Grouse Initiative and the NRCS) to do the work of altering management practices to match what is best for the land, water, and herd, but these folks are still a minority.
Remember that anywhere the buffalo roamed is going to be acceptable cattle country, so long as the land and the water is respected and not used in the manner that most aggressively asserts the rancher’s right to future water and future grazing leases. Of course this requires something of a paradigm shift when it comes to both rancher management of herds and government management of grazing leases and water rights, and there’s hard noses in both camps that need breaking.
People have been saying this for years but shit simply doesn't work most of the time. Unless you're going to drive your cattle a thousand miles a year on a fraction of the water they currently consume and ensure that they eat the preferred foods of bison and not cattle, you're not going to approximate bison because cattle simply do not utilize their environments in the way that bison do. On top of that there are some places that have NEVER supported a bovine population where cattle are currently raised, most notably a huge area of the southwest.
Look up some of the SGI’s and NRCS’s webinars. They’re on YouTube. Obviously we should t be raising cattle in the true desert, but there is a LOT of degraded short grass prairie and Sage grassland that can be repaired and grazer pressure is an important part of that work. There are tens of thousands of regenerating acres out there where they do this science, and properly managed grazed land outperforms the excluded land controls.
>the government compensates farmers for their financial loss
lmao no it doesn't
t. lost animals to coyotes
Greyhounds mog the shit out of pitbulls for Coyote Coursing. Pitbulls are for pit fighting, coyotes will not enter the pit with them.
Based yotes coming to clean up brazil’s stray pet problem
>Now, coyotes stand at the doorstep of South America, poised to penetrate an entirely new continent—one they’ve never naturally inhabited before. Kays’ latest study, published recently in the Journal of Mammalogy, shows they’ve made their first forays into Panama’s Darién National Park, a ferociously forested landscape teeming with jungles and jaguars, and the last obstacle standing between the coyotes and Colombia.
>If and when coyotes cross over, “I wouldn’t be surprised if they colonize all of South America,” Kays says. Should they spread this far, the canids could become one of the most widespread land animals in the western hemisphere, exposing a whole host of species to a new and unfamiliar predator. The Darién is “one more barrier that could slow coyotes down,” Kays adds. “But it probably won’t.”
I am scared for all the cool south american canid specieses 🙁
how did they get to hawaii
how would they get across the panama canal?
Someone explain
Anon it says that Hawaii is the one state they’re not in…
>how would they get across the panama canal?
There's multiple bridges.
>how would they get across the panama canal?
They already have.
The Darién region is the easternmost region of Panama and overlaps with a small part of Colombia. The fact that the coyotes are there means they have bypassed the canal.
Darién is the last obstacle before they get into South America, and it's something that many species have already overcome. So it's inevitable that coyotes will start appearing in Colombia, probably before the end of this decade or the end of the 2030s.
As long as they are filling vacant niches instead of outcompeting native species, I don't care.
This. Northeastern yotes are slowly becoming wolves, and I am personally thrilled. Someone needs to put these fucking white tails in their place
coyotes fill the same niches as foxes and raccoons
I live in los angeles and i've seen these mofos deep in the city, its kinda cool really
Build the wall.
Won't they be slowed down by jaguars and crocs? Its not as if there's no other large predators in South America.
They might just wind up living right near humans in those areas. I think the only thing that really stops them is having another animal around that will kill their pups without them being able to do much about it. Wolves seem to do the job nicely up here, not much overlap in their territories. Wolves have the woods, coyotes the farmland.
The Darien region is nearly pristine tropical forest, so much that there is no significant settlement there or a fixed road link between Panama and Colombia, you have to travel between the two countries by ferry. It's a pretty harsh habitat for a canid used to open plains, but if they do manage to cross it then most Andine countries are free real estate for them.