My gf wants to get a cat but for some reason is willing to die on the hill that the cat is going to be an outside cat that free roams the neighbourhoo...

My gf wants to get a cat but for some reason is willing to die on the hill that the cat is going to be an outside cat that free roams the neighbourhood and also is not going to wear a bell collar and we can't put a leash on it or put make an enclosure.

I'm very passionate about conservation of native wildlife and am wholly opposed to people who let their cats free roam since they're responsible for absolutely devastating wildlife in their local area because of it. They only hunt for sport and are fed routinely by their owners. My gf really wants to get a cat but is adamant we can't have any control over it. How the frick do I get over this hurdle? I sent her articles and videos specific to cat invasiveness in our countries and she just responded "those are just theories."

I don't mind cats, I think they're cute, but I swore if I ever owned one I wouldn't be one of the people who lets their cats contribute to the destruction of native wildlife. How the frick do I get over this hurdle without breaking up with my gf. She won't take "we don't get a cat" as an option.

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  1. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Explain that you are getting a pet and not a wild animal. Tell her that you can't own wild animals and she is trying to have it both ways. If she wants a pet you need to keep it safe and inside like a baby, if she wants a wild animal she can go outside and enjoy them voyeuristically. If she doesn't care about the ecosystem explain that cats get killed and mamed by cars and predators in your area.
    Think if you know of anyone who had somewhat stray cats to give anecdotes. I personally know handfuls of people who have had their outdoor cats lose eyes, legs, tails, come home bloody and battered, found dead on the road, or simply never returned, it's not a beautiful life for cats which are prey/predators.
    Explain that eating filthy ground rodents gives them parasites some of which are transmissible to people and makes cats die young.
    Try to tell her gently that cats can have very happy indoor lives if you enrich them with climbing furniture, toys, and can even be leash walked outside. Unlike a dog you go where ever the cat wants as she actually walks you, but is kept safe and doesn't cause any trouble.
    Explain that the cats don't "hunt" like an animal in nature, and simply "kill" animals that would otherwise be contributing to nature for sport and pleasure, often giving them slow and stressful deaths unlike true predators. And even if another predator would just kill them anyways at least that would be a meal for another creature instead of just wasted for 20 minutes of amusement.

    Your girlfriend sounds like she has really bad anarchy brain, you aren't going to get anywhere fighting with her and beating her as the other anons said will embolden her rebel heart, she needs to be swayed with emotion and empathy.

    T. Anarchist femboy who thinks parenting is an evil and oppressive power structure

  2. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I saw a cat get hit by car just last week. It ran off, but it was probably at least a little fricked up.
    I've seen dead cats on the side of the road several times too. Say one stray I used to feed and keep warm in the winter still in the road.
    I don't even live in an urban area. Cats don't know what's good for them. It's fine to control them. Just play with them to keep them entertained and put them on leashes to go outside once in a while.

  3. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    why the FRICK does this Black person look so smug? WHAT IS HE HIDING

  4. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    cats should be illegal

  5. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your gf is a moron and if you are not a moron as well you should find a new gf

  6. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    appeal to her emotions, point out how many sleepless nights shell have when it stays out all night
    all the stress of wondering where it is, is it hurt, is it lost, etc

  7. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need to go in your wagie cagey
    Being outside of the wagie cagey would be ABSURD just imagine all the things you would do against your masters. This can not stand!

  8. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    My roommate had a cat for years that was indoor/outdoor until me and her boyfriend told her all about the bad things that come from a cat being outdoors. It effects everything from the owners, wildlife, and themselves. What happened next was an effort to keep the cat from desperately trying to escape the second a door was open, and every few weeks it'd be unavoidable. She would be disappointed, but not worried because he'd always come back. One day he came back ill as hell. Giardia, since he thought dirty cigarette butt water was much more delicious than filtered water. It was really fun to watch her swaddle him in a blanket 3 times a day, giving him a full oral syringe's worth of medicine as it foamed up and made him look rabid.

    That ordeal made the regular effort to keep him inside much more serious. It was a lockdown, but he still was too tricky sometimes. The real consequences hit once we really got the hang of blocking his escape. It was sudden and unexpected. He was a pretty moody guy sometimes, and when he decided not to eat one day, it wasn't strange. Then it was another two days, and he couldn't walk anymore. It was FIV that was dormant for years. Total systemic failure, low blood counts, pretty much everything was wrong with him. It was so horrible to put him down with how important he was to us. 7 years old, much too young. She learned her lesson, forever, to the point that she can't even adopt another cat because of the guilt and the friend we lost. I hope no one else has to learn about all the ways outdoor living affects cats and everything around them in such a tragic way.

    RIP Wallace, you were an butthole, but we love you.

  9. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    OP I'm going to teach you a cheat code of how to get your cat to stay on your property even if you let it outside without an enclosure: It's all about how you feed it. Only feed the cat when you come home from work or school every day. Keep the food and bowl inside your house, but then place the bowl on your doorstep just outside your house after you fill it up to let the cat eat. Keep its water in a fountain bubbler outside near its food bowl as well. It helps if you have a front porch or some other awning so the cat can eat there even when it's raining. This will train the cat to wait for you in your driveway every day instead of roaming. It will associate your car with food and hang around the car. You should also insist that it wear a collar with an airtag or some other GPS tracking device if it's going to live outside. This way you can go retrieve it if it ever does try to roam away from your property. It also helps if you have trees on your property so it can scratch those instead of roaming away to find them. Basically you have to give the cat everything it could possibly want on your property so it won't go looking for it somewhere else.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cats will eat until they're fat then go kill baby birds for fun. You are explaining how to raise a pest. It will also be terrified of being stuck outside and its lifespan cut in half.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's why you limit how much food you give it and keep a GPS tracker on its collar you illiterate. If it strays too far then just go retrieve it.

  10. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have 5 freeroaming cats. Every now and then they frick up a pigeon, sometimes mice and rats, but mostly just moths/butterflies. Wildlife my ass. I guess things are a bit different down under, but unless your gubmint is walking around shooting feral cats, your one pet won't change much in the grand scheme.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Yeah, sometimes I like to go outside and rip the heads off of pigeons or disembowel mice and mice and play with them
      >It's not like it changes much in the grand scheme of things
      Anon, if you did what your cats are doing you'd be sectioned for being mentally ill. Yet you're happy to let your cats go out and murder purely for fun not survival. You have complete control over them, they are pets and you own them. You're responsible for their actions in the same way a dog owner is held responsible for having an aggressive dog. You have the sensibilities of a Black person, completely incapable of perceiving yourself as part of a larger problem despite the solution being simple, just shut your fricking door and leave the cats inside you smooth brained moron.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >non, if you did what your cats are doing you'd be sectioned for being mentally ill
        pest animals are not covered under psychopathy. frick, animals PERIOD aren't. only if you are torturing certain domesticated animals that share some strong empathy cues with us does anyone even think it's worth looking into - and only looking into, not a strong diagnosis on the spot. in fact, most cultures sanction and encourage certain forms of torture for certain animals, and no one has ever batted an eye because you're only mentally ill if you do that to your own reproductively compatible, infinitely useful species. psychology is strictly darwinian in nature and any deviation from this is an aggressive act against the host culture.
        > You're responsible for their actions in the same way a dog owner is held responsible for having an aggressive dog.
        Nobody gives one single frick if your "aggressive" dog is going around killing rabbits and other pests. Even feral cats fall under the "who cares, nature" umbrella for a lot of people, and they fight each other too so you'd understand. So no.
        >You have the sensibilities of a Black person, completely incapable of perceiving yourself as part of a larger problem
        You are mixing racism with the fact that you are a vegan AKA mentally ill. Animals aren't people. They don't have the same moral value, and often have zero.

        Oh wait, you ARE a vegan correct? Otherwise your post is pure nonsense, and if you are, I will just look at you like anyone would look at a schizophrenic spiritual nutjob who hasn't realized that the Lord God and our savior Jesus Christ are truth.

        My cat WILL slaughter the worthless fricking vermin that is crawling and shitting all over my property and because of your crying libtard bullshit, I think I'll buy a pellet rifle and help him out. Thanks.

        WIR MUSSEN SIE RATTEN AUSROTTEN!

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          >you ARE a vegan correct
          No, I don't make moronic decisions like you. I don't care whatsoever about animals being killed for food, that's nature. If your cats had been abandoned by you and killed animals to survive, that's fine. However, that's not the case. Unless you're an even bigger Black person than I thought, you're not an abusive owner so you feed the cats well. They have no reason to go around killing random animals other than fun which you condone.
          >most cultures encourage torture for certain animals
          Only subhumans do that. Only the biggest homosexuals who abuse animals to force them to fight enjoy torturing animals. You're a dirty Black person, anon. Not that it matters because I can keep a smile on my face knowing you'll die like any good coon, screaming "I dindu nuffin" after acting like the filthy little ape that you are.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            >BECAUSE IT IS OK
            >Black folk Black folk BLACK PEOPLE APES IM RACIST AND THEREFORE STATISTICALLY LIKELY TO HAVE AN IQ SCORE UNDER 100
            Lmfao. I am so glad I am pissing off worthless, hideous dysgenic virgin fricks like you. The spring trap I set under a little bucket 5 minutes ago caught a vole already. I pulled it out since it was still alive and gave it to my cat.

            Based catto!

            Pests don't have moral value. Man is a super predator and so are cats. Animals are just raw materials and playthings to superior lifeforms like me and my good ol boy, cat.
            >Not naming your cat "cat"

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              I have a black lab for hunting pheasants and ducks. No, rodents and random birds don't have a moral value. They have an environmental value and if they all got wiped out by some brain dead spastic like you and your five parasitic leeches, you still wouldn't be able to comprehend that you played a part.
              >I'm a superior lifeform
              Post physique, gay.

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            The virgin future hantavirus, plague and lepto victim

            >BECAUSE IT IS OK
            >Black folk Black folk BLACK PEOPLE APES IM RACIST AND THEREFORE STATISTICALLY LIKELY TO HAVE AN IQ SCORE UNDER 100
            Lmfao. I am so glad I am pissing off worthless, hideous dysgenic virgin fricks like you. The spring trap I set under a little bucket 5 minutes ago caught a vole already. I pulled it out since it was still alive and gave it to my cat.

            Based catto!

            Pests don't have moral value. Man is a super predator and so are cats. Animals are just raw materials and playthings to superior lifeforms like me and my good ol boy, cat.
            >Not naming your cat "cat"

            The chad clean homestead

            Cats and dogs have been exterminating pests for 10,000 and 40,000 years respectively and those who let them lived long and journeyed far. For a reason.

            Hippies dont even know mowing your lawn creates a buffer zone in case of fires and discourages pest infestations

            • 8 months ago
              Anonymous

              If you've got rats crawling through your house then it's because you're unhygienic and you live in a shithole. The only times I've seen rats are from visiting cities or in my horse's stables. If your living standards are at the same level as my horses then get out of the third world.

  11. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well, I'll give you my honest advice. I think it might be time to make your gf an outdoor gf and let her free roam the neighborhood. That way you can just have sex with her occasionally, but don't have to deal with any other aspect of having one. Where she shits, what she eats, and who she tells about her weekend trip with the girls is all no longer your problem. It's a problem for the street.

    >those are just theories
    is a completely unacceptable answer from an adult, especially when we have all of modern collective knowledge in our pockets and a click away. Having my concerns, opinions, and research/sources disregarded with a handwave is peak disrespect. I'd be absolutely heartbroken to find out my wife truly thought that little of me, especially with finding this out all because of a cat.
    If I was in this situation, I would probably sit her down and tell her how that dismissal made you feel. How inconsiderate she was toward your thoughts, etc. If she digs her heels in instead of trying together on this, I'd probably mention how it's also hurtful and maybe how unattractive I find that quality in a person.
    If we get past that and back to the topic of the cat, we cannot get one if we disagree on it. It's not just a "I want new decorative throw pillows," it's a moral dilemma. No one, least of all your spouse, should be the kind of person to force you into participation of something you're against.

    It really depends. It's a loose science, but depending on how many questionable comments and red flags she wracked up, I would certainly begin to lose attraction and affection for her. I may extend a couple days grace to allow her to process, then ask her if she wants to talk about it again at all, just to see if she's mulled over how she reacted. Normal human behavior things.
    Get a couples therapist, perhaps?
    There's only misery ahead if left to fester.
    Frick outdoor cats, you haven't even gotten one and it's already trying to kill your relationship, lol

  12. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Be a man. Dump her if she gets one.

  13. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nice, didn't realise there were other folks out there that dislike free roam cats on the same grounds as me.
    I launched a rock at a cat that was stalking a pheasant. Little c**t.

  14. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Outside cats get hit by cars and die in a couple of years.

    This is the strongest argument you minght have I did't evenread it all and won't read anything else.

    That's all.

  15. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where are you from?

  16. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the cat is going to be an outside cat that free roams the neighbourhood and also is not going to wear a bell collar and we can't put a leash on it or put make an enclosure.

    >my gf wants to have a cat but actually doesn't want to have it
    ok???

  17. 8 months ago
    Anonymous

    why can't it wear a bell

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    keeping a cat in some small ass rooms forever is abuse. yeah i said it. also if you wanna help keep birds alive actually fricking feed them and build them homes like my family does and their population explodes. just dont get a god damn cat then. of course some Wauf dude cant even set his woman a border for whats gonna fly and what isnt.

    the bad shit about outdoor cats are the god damn ticks. no need for crazy moronic fantasy bullshit scenarios no one is gonna believe. they are so fricking gross and every time the cat comes home she will have to pull out full ticks with tweezers or theyre gonna crawl around in your home/bed. going through the fur with her hands and touching them to find them? that alone should not make her want one and yes she would only be allowed to have one in my home if she does that shit. also what about the damn hair? give your woman a washed shirt full of cat hair and tell her to clean that. is she ready to do that exhausting shit with every piece of clothing until the day the cat dies? these are REAL problems that are ACTUALLY relevant for her. not some gay and feminine as frick sounding shit like bird conservation.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not abuse

      Maybe it seems abusive because you are anthropomorphizing, but these animals are dumber than chihuahuas. They do not care. Give them a scratching post and they do not care. Do you know what personality changes you get when you start letting an indoor cat outside? They hide from people more often and become more likely to scratch and bite. That is because cats are prey animals and the outdoors traumatizes them.

      You might as well say its abuse not to let your rabbits roam because cats are basically predatory rabbits in food chain terms. The majority of their instincts are focused on not getting eaten.

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        >cats are prey animals
        I rate this bait 5/10

        • 8 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cats will only prey upon baby animals and very weak birds. They will lose to:

          Crows
          Large doves
          Rats
          Foxes
          Most snakes
          Aggressive lizards
          Dogs
          Coyotes
          Raccoons
          Hawks
          Vultures
          Eagles

          The list goes on. Coyotes will actually PREFER TO EAT THE BARN CAT THAN THE CHICKEN, because the chicken puts up more of a fight. Don't let your cat outdoors.

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is pretty simple if she does get one, anon. Wait until she's at work or out for the day and go to a pet shop and buy loads of cheap fricking mice. Then just kill them and pull their bodies apart with a couple of forks and spread the remains on her side of the bed or anything she frequently uses. Then leave the house until she's back and pretend you've been out all day visiting a friend or something. She'll come back and see blood and little rodent parts all over where she sleeps.
    If this doesn't work first time then up the stakes. Go back to the pet shop and buy a young rabbit and do the exact same. Leave a disemboweled little rabbit on her pillow of the bed and tell her it must be someone's pet rabbit and you can't let the cat outside anymore because it's killing other people's pets.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh and again, if you really need to make it more disgusting for her then don't put it on the bed. Hide it somewhere in the house so that it rots and then there'll be maggots, flies and a smell for ages. She'll have to clean it up of course because it's her cat.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      Oh and again, if you really need to make it more disgusting for her then don't put it on the bed. Hide it somewhere in the house so that it rots and then there'll be maggots, flies and a smell for ages. She'll have to clean it up of course because it's her cat.

      most sane dogfricker

      • 8 months ago
        Anonymous

        No, I frick horses. I don't mind cats but they need to stay inside or they kill everything for fun. Much the same as how I believe all shitbulls and shitbull owners should be kept six foot underground, ideally under concrete. Doesn't mean I hate dogs. I just hate certain ones and certain owners.

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    sounds to me like she's moronic
    dump her before she sells your car for $300 to buy interior decor

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tell her its gonna get cat aids, get attacked or run over, or acquire other disease.
    Tell her its a boundary you wont cross and she has to compromise if she wants it, if cat is let out on purpose the cat is getting surrendered to a home who wont allow it to get hurt outside.
    I fricking hate cats and cat owners by the way, they shit and have litters on my lawn, they killed my birds when I put their cage outside for one afternoon, they kill local wildlife, attack people, and are fricking pests. But if your gf doesnt give a frick her cat will get hurt eventually due to outside lifestyle then you have bigger relationship problems than just her wanting a cat. Id reevaluate the relationship is shes intellectually unable to evaluate the problem and willing to respect your limits, because she will do it to other aspects in your life.

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I used to have an outdoor cat and she was cool. Now I have an indoor cat and he’s a lazy bum and he still shuts in the wrong places sometimes. I HATE him, stupid old man.

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frick indoor cats I don't want my house to smell bad. The dead birds and rodents can cry me a river.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Keep in mind every farm you see has atleast 2 or 3 "barn cats" that spend the majority of their time outdoors hunting mice and living happy lives well into their old age.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on the farm. Small ones that sell raw milk, raw meat, or fresh produce don’t want cats or other vermin around. Larger farms dgaf because they don’t sell niche boutique raw shit and will gladly let their property get as filthy as they can legally get away with. Pretty much it’s only some of the shittier poultry and pig people that intentionally keep barn cats, and only because they suck at feed management and develop rodent problems the cats don’t even fix. Hobby “farms” will also have some barn cats, but only because they find it idyllic and cute. Or, the cats “belong” to the depressed hoarder whose husband died awhile back and the entire farm has fallen into disrepair. Any other cats you see in rural areas literally tend to just be one of the hundreds of abandoned pets per year that citygays drop off (because they think mittens will be welcome there and live a happy life hunting mice and frolicking in the sunshine), which the moronic inbred psycho farm children then shoot because no one wants fricking feral cats on their farm.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        an industrial farm or processing plant will use repellant or poison on its perimeter, not use fricking cats to get rid of a problem that was left to fester, only hobby farms do it since the cats are pets to begin with

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I suspect that attitude will change when she comes home and finds her kittycat dead.

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a dog is a slave but a cat chooses
    >*abuses dog, lets cat out the door*
    >proof!
    I hate cat worshipers so much.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Andrew Ryan confirmeTRXWAd cat worshipper

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >an outside cat that free roams the neighbourhood and also is not going to wear a bell collar and we can't put a leash on it or put make an enclosure.
    I mean at that point is it even your cat? Just find one that's already feral and tell her she owns it now and then walk away.

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's very simple. Show her videos of cute outdoor rodents or whatever, make sure they are lengthy to get in invested in said cute rodent, but make sure the ending shows a cute ruthlessly attacking and killing the rodent.

    Women focus on how things make THEM FEEL. If you try to debate her using logic she will not listen. You need to appeal to her emotions only.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I meant to type cat instead cute but you get my drift

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn’t even need to be a rodent, if she lives in a place where there are wild cats and likes real “free spirit” cats. Scottish wildcats are endangered by being outbred by outdoor cats, Florida panthers and mountain lions (and bobcats, lynx, most any wild cat) are threatened by diseases spread by outdoor cats.

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    She’s a bad person lol. Anyone who thinks like this should be beaten with a stone.

  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unless you are from New Zeeland or Australia get an outside cat you homosexual

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you for feeding the neighborhood dogs. But no, not really.

      I found my german shepherd half done with eating a tabby last night. Had to take it away from her, take her to the vet and tell them she was eating a raccoon to get dewormer. I hope she doesn't have worms. This is the fifth one this year (that I know of). She doesn't leave the yard at all, is calm on walks, an absolute angel with people and other dogs, and doesn't react to cats when i'm walking her on or off leash, but basically every cat that enters the yard finds out the hard way that dogs can run way faster than them and jump high enough to negate about 8-10ft of the climbing advantage.

      I saw her pull one out of a tree last year and 2 times she ended up with deep scratches on her face. And she keeps getting worms and fleas from this. Please keep your cats out of my yard. I am tired of deworming my dog. The only other time I had this problem it was because she was eating the rats that were living in a neighbor's garbage pile and it was costing me so much money I cleaned their shit up for fricking free. I have a half acre, all of it is fenced behind 7 feet of cedar. I should not be seeing a singe animal that does not fly or bark. I should not be finding stinking cat shit in my vegetable patches. I should not be cleaning cat piss off tires and outdoor furniture or replacing things ruined by scratching toms.

      To make matters worse any time the cat population goes back up, the rat population goes up too. Probably eating the food left out for cats.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Baaaaased!

        You eat the chirp doggo puts you in the dirt

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >doggo
          Omg but what if... it was le heckin pupperino dyingerino insteaderino?? What about le doggo then? Not very le BASED...

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Dog lives are worth more than the lives of lesser animals

          • 8 months ago
            Anonymous

            most sane post on Wauf

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I'm thinking you and the outdoor cat owners are both not so good people
        >an absolute angel with people and other dogs
        Gee WHERE have I heard this one before

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Absolutely based

        I had a lab that was just like this. No mercy for vermin.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You pretty much double the life expectancy of any cat by keeping them inside. Its the single healthiest choice you can make for it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      I am Australian. Our native wildlife is already fricked. Cats are the worst destructors of ecology in suburban areas. Plus good chance the cat gets nipped by a snake or something cos they are moronic animals.

      >twist her into realising she is going to kill our cat quicker
      Be careful in how you approach that, may backfire if her old cats had reasonably long and healthy lifespans. Personal experience is usually going to justify her opinions despite any facts to the contrary.

      Dunno if it’ll help, but it might be worthwhile to bring up the prevalence of what’s basically cat AIDs (FIV). Pretty much the only reason it’s so common now is because frickers let their cats roam around fighting and/or support a large feral population. Can then blame those types of people for ruining “free spirit cats” for everyone else, which might help direct her to a frame of mind where she feels you agree with and validate her moronic opinions but realize that cat ownership just doesn’t work like her childhood anymore.

      Other topics that might be relevant include stuff like T. gondii killing off cute seals because of cat shit being washed/dumped into the ocean or that even washed raw plants aren’t safe to eat because of cat shit contaminating the fields.

      Thanks I'll definitely think about that and bring it up next time we speak about it.

      It's very simple. Show her videos of cute outdoor rodents or whatever, make sure they are lengthy to get in invested in said cute rodent, but make sure the ending shows a cute ruthlessly attacking and killing the rodent.

      Women focus on how things make THEM FEEL. If you try to debate her using logic she will not listen. You need to appeal to her emotions only.

      Arigatou for more suggestions

      >an outside cat that free roams the neighbourhood and also is not going to wear a bell collar and we can't put a leash on it or put make an enclosure.
      I mean at that point is it even your cat? Just find one that's already feral and tell her she owns it now and then walk away.

      Kek

      I suspect that attitude will change when she comes home and finds her kittycat dead.

      She is 100% a believer nothing bad can happen to cats because her cats at her parent's house have lived like this for 10 years with minimal incidents. But her parents live in an upper middleclass neighbourhood with low traffic.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Youre in Australia? The place already ravaged by invasive species, and where cats are already one of the major ones?

        deeply inconsiderate and stubborn behavior. Doesn't care about your wishes, the cats wellbeings, other wildlife, really anything other than her feelings. At that point its not about the cat, sounds like you need to re evaluate your relationship my man. This isn't going to be the only thing this problem comes up with

  30. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get a new girlfriend. This one is both stupid and mentally ill. Think about her genetic contribution toward your children and you'll understand you need to act sooner rather than later.

  31. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's doable but mostly pretends where you live. Be prepared for your outdoor cat not showing up for a couple days sometimes and be prepared to deal with fleas and ticks and it throwing up on your carpet after eating some strange animal

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      *depends

  32. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get people who throw a family member outside unless it's a huge dog, but then they better make a shelter for it. Modern, domesticated cats especially are not meant for outside life. She sounds incredibly lazy and doesn't want to train an animal and just wants something to occasionally pet outside, which is incredibly selfish. Is she like that with everything? Does she want kids as well? This is a "correlation does not equal causation" scenario, but if she's willing to do this to a cat, I'm horrified at the thought of how she would treat children. Sorry I'm not helping much, but this may be a larger problem than a cat.
    On a purely anecdotal note, we have a cute, very large but also very stupid calico that started coming around our house, and we just took care of her and now have her in a cat run on our patio. She would otherwise be lounging in the street when I would come home from work. Cats can be smart and cautious, but some are naive to the dangers of the world, and having any animals life cut short because of human neglect is awful. I'm afraid for anything under that women's care. May be projecting a bit cause my MoL is a lazy boomer with too many animals and I feel so bad, they are all in cages because she's a hoarder and they would get lost in the mess and probably die without anyone knowing.
    Tl;Dr - leave that b***h, she doesn't have a caring bone in her body, it seems.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day cuck
      You are 5'4 and ugly

  33. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Send her studies that prove cats have an effect on wildlife in your area specifically so she can’t say it’s “just a theory”. Then send her pictures of cats getting eaten by predators in your area. Or cats hit by cars.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah seems like something a normal, sane person would do

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        you cannot overcome the moronation of women by being sane and reasonable

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's a woman. She doesn't care about the wildlife. But the data on the cat's lifespan is probably a good idea. Tell her she'd electing for the cat to die young of preventable causes.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Then send her pictures of cats getting eaten by predators in your area.
      have a nice day psycho

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Stop sending your pets to their brutal deaths if you are upset by it. If it’s so awful to just look at a picture of an animal you have no connection to maybe you should try to prevent such an awful act from occurring. You and OP’s girlfriend just don’t want to clean a litter box, and are willing to let your cat fall victim to predation, disease, and cars to avoid it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also the amount in vet bills and preventative flea collars, etc. you will save every year, not to mention medical bills for you if the cat brings in a tick that then bites you. I'm still dealing with the aftereffects of a tick bite from a year ago, but that was a tick that hitched a ride on me, not my kot since he's a happy indoor boy who only kills vermin in the house instead of bringing them in.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      classic Wauf

  34. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dog hate threads on Wauf: I WILL KILL YOUR WORTHLESS BARK BARKING SLAVE ANIMAL YOU SUBHUMAN FREAK MUTANT BUTTSNIFFER YOUR RACE MUST GO EXTINCT
    >Cat hate threads on Wauf: I want to prolong cats lifespans and conserve wildlife by getting cats spayed and neutered and keeping them indoors.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know this is bullshit. This isn't even a console thread anyway you fricking mong.

  35. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    your gf is clearly moronic, i advise you to end the relationship as soon as possible and not waste any more of your precious time with her.

  36. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    beat some sense into her

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      your gf is clearly moronic, i advise you to end the relationship as soon as possible and not waste any more of your precious time with her.

      Eh I've been in a fair amount of relationships and she ticks the most boxes a partner of mine ever has, just this one moronic view of hers is very frustrating to deal with.

      Send her studies that prove cats have an effect on wildlife in your area specifically so she can’t say it’s “just a theory”. Then send her pictures of cats getting eaten by predators in your area. Or cats hit by cars.

      I sent her one but I don't think she actually read it any further. But

      She's a woman. She doesn't care about the wildlife. But the data on the cat's lifespan is probably a good idea. Tell her she'd electing for the cat to die young of preventable causes.

      is definitely right and I'll bring that up next time I talk to her, and twist her into realising she is going to kill our cat quicker (considerably if it gets hit by a car) if she lets it free roam.

      I don't get people who throw a family member outside unless it's a huge dog, but then they better make a shelter for it. Modern, domesticated cats especially are not meant for outside life. She sounds incredibly lazy and doesn't want to train an animal and just wants something to occasionally pet outside, which is incredibly selfish. Is she like that with everything? Does she want kids as well? This is a "correlation does not equal causation" scenario, but if she's willing to do this to a cat, I'm horrified at the thought of how she would treat children. Sorry I'm not helping much, but this may be a larger problem than a cat.
      On a purely anecdotal note, we have a cute, very large but also very stupid calico that started coming around our house, and we just took care of her and now have her in a cat run on our patio. She would otherwise be lounging in the street when I would come home from work. Cats can be smart and cautious, but some are naive to the dangers of the world, and having any animals life cut short because of human neglect is awful. I'm afraid for anything under that women's care. May be projecting a bit cause my MoL is a lazy boomer with too many animals and I feel so bad, they are all in cages because she's a hoarder and they would get lost in the mess and probably die without anyone knowing.
      Tl;Dr - leave that b***h, she doesn't have a caring bone in her body, it seems.

      Eh I think you have the wrong idea. She's one of those people who thinks cats should be free spirits not confined to just the indoors of a house, and should be able to go wherever they wants. She basically wants a feral cat that comes inside some times and sleeps on her bed at night. That's what she had at her parent's house and both her cats were aggressive c**ts because of it.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >twist her into realising she is going to kill our cat quicker
        Be careful in how you approach that, may backfire if her old cats had reasonably long and healthy lifespans. Personal experience is usually going to justify her opinions despite any facts to the contrary.

        Dunno if it’ll help, but it might be worthwhile to bring up the prevalence of what’s basically cat AIDs (FIV). Pretty much the only reason it’s so common now is because frickers let their cats roam around fighting and/or support a large feral population. Can then blame those types of people for ruining “free spirit cats” for everyone else, which might help direct her to a frame of mind where she feels you agree with and validate her moronic opinions but realize that cat ownership just doesn’t work like her childhood anymore.

        Other topics that might be relevant include stuff like T. gondii killing off cute seals because of cat shit being washed/dumped into the ocean or that even washed raw plants aren’t safe to eat because of cat shit contaminating the fields.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Dunno if it’ll help, but it might be worthwhile to bring up the prevalence of what’s basically cat AIDs (FIV)
          Also, mention the additional cost related to taking care of a cat with FIV. It will almost assuredly catch kidney or liver issues from the environment and lower immune response. having to get special food running ~120$ for a bag that would normally cost you 35 isn't cool. One of the large draw of cats is how lost cost they are, but a vet trip in urgency can easily cost you $600~ even with no treatment offered, only diagnostic.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >She basically wants a feral cat that comes inside some times and sleeps on her bed at night.
        You're going to get fleas.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >She basically wants a feral cat that comes inside some times and sleeps on her bed at night
        Cat owners are disgusting cretins, why dont you let her walk on top of your kitchen countertops and sleep on the bed with her shit smeared shoes while youre at it.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      your gf is clearly moronic, i advise you to end the relationship as soon as possible and not waste any more of your precious time with her.

      trips dont lie anon.

    • 8 months ago
      Anonymous

      your gf is clearly moronic, i advise you to end the relationship as soon as possible and not waste any more of your precious time with her.

      these, if beatings don't work find another girl

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