Don't confuse my autism for schizophrenia. I like biology and hate lies. I will defend to the death reality against all feathergays. Also, "schizo" just means someone smart enough to see through lies in the current age.
I've been following your fueds for weeks now, and here's where it's gotten: >1 of the 2 anti-featherfags (aka paleoschizos) makes good points about fossil reccord evidence gaps >in this thread about, he gets baited to a point where he has to talk about how much he hates dogs >The Reddit-spacing-paleontologistfag (their nemesis) also makes some good points here and there, but mostly acts like a smug cunt and goes "sorry my dogma is right and you're wrong all the time because science tm said so" >redditpaleofag actually likes dogs, but turns into a heckin' furryrino to BTFO scalefag, making dogfags look even worse
A Spectator can never win on Wauf...
I find your attempts to get me jannied for fucking with your schizo tendencies amusing
Man does that postit timestamp look photoshopped. Can’t get one held by fingers so it’s harder to fake? That smudged shading and associated visual artifacts exist nowhere else in your totally real image. The delay also makes me think it took you time to put that together.
I don’t see a single finger. An easy shoop especially when you cant pull off a finger reveal in the same photo due to a skin tone or age mismatch
>despite wear marks on the bones implying otherwise?
I think by now he's had time to check my info about how that fossil was restored and discovered that I'm right.
he hasn't brought it up again anyways.
I seem to have a suHispaniciously large amount of info on that particular item for someone who's not a paleontologist.
Your fabricated shitpost rumors? I can make claims to troll too, doesn’t mean any of them are true.
>Your fabricated shitpost rumors?
most of what I said can be verified online.
the rest I could only know if I am what I claim to be.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yet it can not
I am familiar with trolling. I have done a lot of it, to blow off stress, or vehemently argue for a position i hate to test the veracity of my own beliefs, or to see how stupid people are, or just to fuck with them because they pissed me off on the wrong day and Wauf doesn’t let you really hurt anyone in the 5 seconds it takes to look them in the eyes, get in their face, and tell them why they’re a gay. And I haven’t seen any solid proof that you aren’t doing what I and countless others have done for weeks on end during depressive work-sleep-shit cycles. I made shoops like yours, even staged photos, and claims like yours, and right now you haven’t been able to do something i was never able to fake.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you haven’t been able to do something i was never able to fake.
so do it.
fake me a good postit note on some boomer's face and then show me the same note on your screen over this thread. I'll give you 20 minutes.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I don’t feel like it because your inability to get a finger-face-note shot when you have the note and camera offhand is damning enough for me. Also no censored diploma with hand. Lal!
11 months ago
Anonymous
>damning enough for me
yes, that's the beauty of it.
you don't believe it and nobody else doubts it.
you are the joke.
11 months ago
Anonymous
More definitive proof is trivial to provide yet you stall. Interesting. The longer you take the less trustworthy it gets.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>paranoid
never would've expected that from a schizophrenic
11 months ago
Anonymous
There is nothing paranoid about a probable troll stalling when accused due to their similarities to trolls in the last. This is like part 3 of a live chat exam for CIA agents: “avoid proving who you really are”
But we’re not CIA here. Just bored. One of us is a high paid underworked individual with a masters the other is a larping incel with decent photoshop skills. With how similar the disciplines are i can see how paranoid schizophrenics see “glowies” everywhere.
Have you tried just making arguments and backing them up with some kind of source? That tends to work better than "ME EXPERT!! TRUST FAUCI!!"
>jugal foramen or whether the stapes supported the hypoglossal nerve or how we tell pneumatic pleurocoels from pulmonary diverticulae. But you can't talk about that so here we are.
Nobody cares about this shit. You're just throwing shit out you think sounds smart. If anything I would be interested in talking about the vocal structures of dinosaurs or their face musculature.
[...]
You could accept the reality of a phenomenon or be a complete gay. You have chosen the latter. I have no control over this.
[...]
Why are you insisting on 7,000 timestamped screenshots of a random poster? Fuck off with your /soc/ bullshit.
Your argument rests on, besides everyone being the same guy who has followed your rants for a year, a claim to authority and arcane knowledge that has yet to be presented. Typical.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>One of us is a high paid underworked individual with a masters the other is a larping incel with decent photoshop skills
now I'm confused. You haven't shown any photoshop skills.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I must be too out of practice for them to be decent. Also, paleontologists are not paid well, at all!
You have stalled beyond the point of trustworthy proof. I maintain that you are a rather typical, classic even, shitposter. Also dogs are the best pets especially huskies.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>paleontologists are not paid well, at all!
you really are new here.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I accept your concession.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you do seem very receptive
11 months ago
Anonymous
Oniichan it’s so big…
The only well paid paleontologist i know OF is a full time professor and part time consultant and he didnt have time to post as much as you do, especially with how much he traveled. You have the posting habits of a senior developer who works less than 4 hours each day.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm retired. I have been for longer than Wauf has existed.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Rather this “I” you speak of is a fabrication and a rather blatant one at that
11 months ago
Anonymous
>this “I” you speak of is a fabrication and a rather blatant one at that
a remarkably consistent one over the last 10 years of Wauf history, however.
11 months ago
Anonymous
An easy lie to tell for someone with no trip and no believable evidence. You finish shooping those fingers yet?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>An easy lie to tell for someone with no trip and no believable evidence
oldfags know and newfags can fuck off back to where you came from.
it all works out.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>trust me
You stall and deflect any time you are pressed. You are the most obvious fraud on earth. Noice shoop though, almost as good as e girl scammers faking timestamps using the same general format.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You stall and deflect any time you are pressed.
You're not that pressive, anon
11 months ago
Anonymous
Say what you want you’re still a fraud and your link to dogschizo posting is not a good look.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>your link to dogschizo posting is not a good look.
see, even if I prove who I am you still think I'm someone else.
you're retarded and there's no pleasing you.
you should fit right in here.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Sorry I forgot the person who posts like you when you are posting but never a minute sooner and falls for the same baits isn’t you and you totally don’t samefag multiple personalities because you would never do something so trivial on modern Wauf where personal mod attention doesn’t exist.
>OMG TAKE MEDS CLEARLY T. REX HAD FEATHERS AND CHINA'S WORD IS GOD >I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THESE THREADS!! THAT'S WHY I SHIT UP EVERY SINGLE ONE AND LOSE MY MIND WHEN THEY APPEAR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! >Proceeds to lose her (male) mind and derail thread after thread because someone disagreed with him (non-passing)
The fact is, modern paleongology is fucked all the hell up and no amount of posting pictures of dogs or whiling like a histrionic mongoose is going to change that.
>schizoid gets backed into a corner >runs out of ways to deflect >can't do anything but lash out instead of responding >his typing shows increasingly dramatic signs of aggravation
we're close
i can feelit
Honestly, you're the most annoying gay on Wauf. All you do is enter every single thread, start screaming that everyone needs to take medication and then never shut the fuck up with your incorrect talking points and off-topic spam.
says the guy who bases his arguments on hating and distrusting the chinese and invalid phylogenetic comparisons between animals specialized to different environments over 90 million years apart, and says the mangled death pose is the natural posture of an animal despite wear marks on the bones implying otherwise?
>despite wear marks on the bones implying otherwise?
I think by now he's had time to check my info about how that fossil was restored and discovered that I'm right.
he hasn't brought it up again anyways.
I seem to have a suHispaniciously large amount of info on that particular item for someone who's not a paleontologist.
here's your phylogenetic evidence >but selective breeding
man was made in gods image so god liked fancy birds too >but 90 million years
doesnt matter they're related
>this fucking idiot is still at it
Legit psychosis at this point
How's the funding cut plan coming along? Are Engh and Longrich quaking in their boots yet
>say i'll break his mind by posting dogs >his mind breaks
schizos are my favorite playthings. you can tell them what they're going to do, and they actually believe they wanted to do it.
Who are you talking to, retarded queer? Besides myself, I counted at least four anons to whom you're shitposting here. Personally my last posts (and I'm not an OP, btw) were:
https://i.imgur.com/HvJOSjL.jpg
Imagine being an unironical gay from Reddit and deliberately exposing yourself to ridicule, over and over again?
https://i.imgur.com/Tza0AHN.png
Oh, boy...
But at the same time, I suspect YOU in cancer posting with an extreme amount of samefagging and autofellation. You really should take your meds and finally stop your braindead barking.
dogs smell really good too, especially intact female collies. I have a smol collie girl and i love smelling her neck fluff.
Also yeah it’s obvious that some theropods had feathers, turned arms, etc and some didn’t this guy is a moron who cant into paleo journals and just rants about deviantart and twitter.
https://i.imgur.com/jRMXLRg.jpg
[...] >histrionic >samefags an essay format post dedicated to being mad and wrong
Mad and wrong
Mong
Lmao
dogs still smell great btw only subhumans think they stink.
>buttsniffers unironically exist
Wow... (I'm honestly shocked) So... How does your dog's butt smell?
(Hey janny-chud. You know, it's really vital for this board to display IDs. And also, ban that imbecile for samefagging and cancer posting and most importantly - for being a disgusting butt-sniffing LGBTQ+ tourist from Reddit.)
>And also, ban that imbecile for samefagging and cancer posting and most importantly - for being a disgusting butt-sniffing LGBTQ+ tourist from Reddit.
Why do you want to be banned so badly, tourist?
>at least 4 anons agree with me >they're all retarded like me >they all talk like me >when I go away they all do too >when I post they do too
multiple personalities ftw
>How does your dog's butt smell?
kiss your mom and find out
https://i.imgur.com/WroBAW8.jpg
>i swear to god i'm not the only schizo who midwittedly rambles about pop-sci dinosaur drawings and TV shows using hilarious misinterpretation of random fossil photos and pictures from google, "logic" based on severe misapplication of phylogenetics to compare animals separated by 90mil+ years, and extremely racism and distrust towards the chinese
however you are, without a doubt, the easily recognized "buttsniffer/bark bark bark" dog hate schizo (you've revealed yourself to be with that unique and easily recognized vocabulary), who everyone on Wauf already knows is an unreasonable mentally ill man who refuses to listen to any arguments or criticism and chucks insults and goes off on hateful, histrionic tangents.
So even if you aren't 1, you are 2, and ergo, not worth engaging with. Although you are most likely 1 as well as all these totally different dino-schizos share the exact same flavor of severe idiocy. Logical deficit, neurotic bias, etc.
To put it in much fewer words:
You have shown yourself to be incapable of fully rational thought.
Have a dog picture so you can go insane a little more.
[...]
>accused of cancerposting >immediately starts violently cancerposting
Based seething glowie retard. (pls, have a nice day already, and rid the board of your cringe)
>at least 4 anons agree with me >they're all retarded like me >they all talk like me >when I go away they all do too >when I post they do too
multiple personalities ftw
>i swear to god i'm not the only schizo who midwittedly rambles about pop-sci dinosaur drawings and TV shows using hilarious misinterpretation of random fossil photos and pictures from google, "logic" based on severe misapplication of phylogenetics to compare animals separated by 90mil+ years, and extremely racism and distrust towards the chinese
however you are, without a doubt, the easily recognized "buttsniffer/bark bark bark" dog hate schizo (you've revealed yourself to be with that unique and easily recognized vocabulary), who everyone on Wauf already knows is an unreasonable mentally ill man who refuses to listen to any arguments or criticism and chucks insults and goes off on hateful, histrionic tangents.
So even if you aren't 1, you are 2, and ergo, not worth engaging with. Although you are most likely 1 as well as all these totally different dino-schizos share the exact same flavor of severe idiocy. Logical deficit, neurotic bias, etc.
To put it in much fewer words:
You have shown yourself to be incapable of fully rational thought.
Have a dog picture so you can go insane a little more.
Your cue to disregard everything he says was the OP. He actually thinks that scientific theories that make dinosaurs look stupid are a left wing/governnment plot to destroy masculinity. His evidence for this? Some nobody made a youtube video.
https://i.imgur.com/7z0Hx6P.jpg
Meanwhile, the real animal:
- No traces of feathers (just as from a phylogenetic point of view)
- Jaw bones are full of holes typical only for lipless animals
- The forelimbs are in a straight functional position (Wait... Is the right arm pronated? Oh, no, no, no...)
Once again - why are glowie "scientists" even allowed to publish anywhere?
Previous: [...]
And his strongest argument yet! In two posts you should have known this thread was going to be garbage
A twisted skeleton, where he sees some twisted bones as proof of their natural position, and ignores the rest. With no preserved soft tissue, so he interprets absence of evidence as absence of evidence. It is widely known in the scientific community that there is no evidence for dilophosaurus having feahters. Or a frill. Or spitting acid. And it is widely known that apparently related species of dinosaur can have feathers or scales. In fact ,the mechanism that switches between them is so simple that even scientists understand it and were able to grow alligator embryos with feathers. Feathers are mutant, specialized scales, but not so different that losing and gaining them multiple times in a family is unlikely, and bird scutes are degenerated feathers.
Those were actually imprints in dirt that could have been multiple things, including primitive proto-feathers that looked more like somewhat fuzzy scales in real life, which would not have necessarily covered its entire body. The real life mainstream academic consensus, for ya youtube-focused schizos, is indeed "we're not sure". Although since it's an unknown, and people want to draw the whole animal instead of just the parts we have reasonable evidence for, artistic liberties may be taken depicting it with a wide variety of traits that have not yet been filled in by physical evidence. That's what the OP picture is doing, depicting a theoretical proto-feather covered animal. Only a complete idiot would take issue with that because we don't have definite integument for the species. I would personally draw a proto-feather that was more of a hard scale in the center with fuzzy edges producing a vibrant, laced pattern that helped break up the animal's outline and helped it hide from prey. Perhaps the scale fuzz would be longer in some places than others. That would be cool
Also here's a short paper on their forelimb morphology and function
https://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2019/2559-dilophosaurus-forelimbs
11 months ago
Anonymous
>multiple things
and by this i mean it could have very well sat on some grass. really.
but i'm sure if china found it some schizo would be screaming about faked feather fossils
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it could have very well sat on some grass. really.
sure, except grass didn't exist then.
*we don't have evidence grass existed that early
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/article/5/5/721/4769666?login=false
We went from "grass didn't exist alongside dinos" to "grass existed in the late Cretaceous" to "grass existed in the early Cretaceous" so it's hard to take a definitive lower bound on when grass first popped up seriously.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it's hard to take a definitive lower bound on when grass first popped up seriously.
It's actually quite simple since it appeared on the opposite side of the globe about 100 million years after Dilophosaurus went extinct.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>seething over an informal illustrative comment
this is why autists are never successful in life despite muh iq
11 months ago
Anonymous
I'm not seething. I'm incapable of caring about the topic
I just thought since you guys like to show off your knowledge you might like to update it. If not that's fine too.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I DON'T CARE! I DON'T CARE! LOOK HOW MANY POSTS I CAN MAKE!!!
11 months ago
Anonymous
almost to bump limit again, Schizo
weird how that keeps happening to your stupid threads, no?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>since it appeared
Go back before 2005 and you would have instead said "because grass didn't exist when dinosaurs did."
Literally: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I'm not saying that you should start fan fictioning entire species and landscapes and acting like they're truth, but you don't have to be autistic about an offhand comment.
Or, well, most people don't at least.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Ah as
https://i.imgur.com/X9Wp3jz.jpg
I know most proto-feathers we've found were pretty much just a hollow tube early in their development and later became downy, but overlapping "scales" made of well structured barbs-sans-central-calamus that fuzz out on the edges, giving the appearance of fuzzy scales, could have existed in theory, as the functional equivalent to the scale armor that shares a common ancestor with feathers. >Overlapping scales have never been found
If anything overlapped it would have been a proto-feather that appeared to be a fuzzy scale.
In casual conversion I would still call the scale/feather ancestor on dino skin "scales".
[...]
*grass-like plant
Sorry my Wauf shitpost wasn't rigorous enough for you.
pointed out if you were being pedantic on "grass" vs. "grass-like plant" instead of timelines then that's fair. Pedantic, especially for an offhand comment, but fair.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I would personally draw a proto-feather that was more of a hard scale in the center with fuzzy edges
yeah, for some reason you guys seem to be stuck in the 1980's back when people thought feathers evolved directly from overlapping scales.
one of the reasons that idea was rejected is because overlapping scales have never been found in dinosaurs. There are several other reasons to reject the hypothesis, but that's the main one a non-scientist will understand.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I know most proto-feathers we've found were pretty much just a hollow tube early in their development and later became downy, but overlapping "scales" made of well structured barbs-sans-central-calamus that fuzz out on the edges, giving the appearance of fuzzy scales, could have existed in theory, as the functional equivalent to the scale armor that shares a common ancestor with feathers. >Overlapping scales have never been found
If anything overlapped it would have been a proto-feather that appeared to be a fuzzy scale.
In casual conversion I would still call the scale/feather ancestor on dino skin "scales".
>it could have very well sat on some grass. really.
sure, except grass didn't exist then.
*grass-like plant
Sorry my Wauf shitpost wasn't rigorous enough for you.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>*grass-like plant
Ah as [...] pointed out if you were being pedantic on "grass" vs. "grass-like plant" instead of timelines then that's fair. Pedantic, especially for an offhand comment, but fair.
>grass" vs. "grass-like plant"
no "grass-like plants" are known from that flora
11 months ago
Anonymous
Some foliage could have fallen off a conifer or part of a fern could have been crushed
The illustrative comment "sat on some grass" means "sat on some plant that would look like that" but you're a literal sperg who can't understand figurative language due to severe mental deficits.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I like that you think we can't recognize a fern or pine from a fossil
that's cute.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Yes because crushed, poorly preserved partial impressions of parts of plants always leave enough evidence for positive identification.
>We
Please, there are no paleontology grads on Wauf. Just a schizo that stole some pictures off an old fart's instagram. FYI instagram photo stealing enables a lot of Wauf larps because 'gram is not well indexed by google reverse image search.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Just a schizo that stole some pictures off an old fart's instagram
kek
I don't have an instagram
>since it appeared
Go back before 2005 and you would have instead said "because grass didn't exist when dinosaurs did."
Literally: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I'm not saying that you should start fan fictioning entire species and landscapes and acting like they're truth, but you don't have to be autistic about an offhand comment.
Or, well, most people don't at least.
>absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
you're discounting an entire field of science
while I agree botany is stupid, it's much better understood than dinosaur evolution. Pollen studies are standard stuff.
11 months ago
Anonymous
bro anyone with a protonmail account can make an instagram account and save pictures from anyone who hasn't gone followers and friends only
This is stupidly common with Wauf larps. On Wauf there was a guy who constructed at least 3 multiple personalities in the guitar thread using stolen instagram pictures. He was found out when someone was coincidentally following one of the people he larped as. If anyone claims to be someone or says stuff is theirs you NEED a timestamp because reverse image search won't turn up 99% of instagram photos.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>If anyone claims to be someone or says stuff is theirs you NEED a timestamp
I haven't bothered because any reasonable anon will immediately understand that just because I'm the old fart in the pics I post, that doesn't make me a paleontologist.
nor does being a paleontologist mean what I look like matters.
the only way to judge whether or not I'm a paleontologist is either to dox me (it happens) or understand the quality of my posts. Nobody here is qualified to judge the quality of my posts though. So I guess you guys are out of luck.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Deflecting
What I'm saying is that anyone could claim to be a paleontologist and produce an apparently "original" picture and say "this is me, i am confident that i am right and will put my face to it", while actually using a stolen picture that reverse image search hasn't indexed. I have seen it happen when ONE GUY claimed to be three different guitarists just to stir shit for his personal schizo reasons and eventually got outed.
What I am saying is that picture was never you to begin with. If a picture on Wauf is not timestamped it is fake.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>that picture was never you to begin with.
which one?
you must be very new here if you think I've only ever posted one pic.
11 months ago
Anonymous
The Wauf troll I'm speaking of used dozens of stolen pictures from multiple people. No timestamps. None indexed by google. Why? Because they were taken from sites that google didn't fully index so they appeared to be original.
If you can't produce a timestamped photo (no shoops) of whatever you claim is yours or yourself, it's likely fake.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>If you can't produce a timestamped photo (no shoops) of whatever you claim is yours or yourself, it's likely fake.
fair enough.
I'm not sure how being a moderately attractive middle aged dude makes me a paleontologist though. Or why you'd think I post my pics as evidence that I am one for that matter.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Because stealing some random person's instagram photos carries little risk of being discovered as a larper and makes your shitposts look more legitimate.
I will say it again. ONE guy on Wauf was able to larp as over 3 different guitarists with dozens of photos each entirely by stealing from instagram, and people were only coincidentally able to discover one of his larps. When timestamps were pressed for after that, the "people" started going AWOL. He was primarily using these apparent credible totally real person personas to spread inflammatory opinions and start arguments. However, all of them were him.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>makes your shitposts look more legitimate.
you may be retarded if you think that's true.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>after seeing real evidence that a troll stole instagram pictures to add legitimacy to his shitposts in his effort to construct a narrative on his own terms... >... you would have to be retarded to believe that i could do this stupidly easy thing myself!
You constantly confuse me for an actual schizophrenic poster even though I'm usually arguing with him and destroying his shit.
but you're not knowledgeable enough to tell the difference so I don't mind.
>arguing with him
Oh yes the schizophrenic who is pretty much you in every aspect...
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Oh yes the schizophrenic who is pretty much you in every aspect...
almost every way except reasoning ability, googling ability, and knowledge.
aside from that he's quite similar to me. In fact he is copying me.
Badly.
11 months ago
Anonymous
lmao this is the least clever deflection for being caught samefagging i have ever seen
timestamp nao.
11 months ago
Anonymous
(Also this Wauf guy's MO and tendencies are really similar to yours but I ascribe this to the high level of similarity among individual schizophrenics and autists)
11 months ago
Anonymous
You constantly confuse me for an actual schizophrenic poster even though I'm usually arguing with him and destroying his shit.
but you're not knowledgeable enough to tell the difference so I don't mind.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You want people to label you a paleontologist but you're vaguely implying you're still "too scared" of producing any hard proof (despite putting forth literal pictures of your supposed face and a flippant attitude towards doxing).
11 months ago
Anonymous
>You want people to label you a paleontologist
kek
I want actual paleontologists to show up and discuss stuff. Or if not, at least some veterinarians or zoologists. I don't really care what the paleo schizos call me.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I want actual paleontologists to show up and discuss stuff.
Why?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Why?
because they're way more interesting than what we've got right now. And back in the day some did actually post here.
11 months ago
Anonymous
If you want that discussion why not just talk to your supposed peers in the field? Can you explain the logic in >avoiding talking to your supposed peers >hopping onto a board you know is infested with schizos and retards >intermittently posting images of someone while claiming to be a paleontologist >hope that this will someone attract your peers to discuss with you
>You want people to label you a paleontologist
kek
I want actual paleontologists to show up and discuss stuff. Or if not, at least some veterinarians or zoologists. I don't really care what the paleo schizos call me.
Does any of that make any kind of sense to you?
11 months ago
Anonymous
most of my 'peers' are dead.
sometimes I meet actual educated people here and that's always fun. And I'm constantly amused by OP and other fools spouting off wrong information like it's fact.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>most of my peers
Your peers are your fellow high school dropouts. You post your supposed face all the time and even posted an old photo in this thread, but you can't provide a quick handwritten timestamp? Perhaps that is because you stole someone elses photos to try and make yourself look more legitimate to less educated and intelligent people. Unfortunately it does not take more than a high school degree to see how hilariously wrong and irrational all your posts are. Even the ones where you argue with yourself to make yourself look even more right.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>it does not take more than a high school degree to see how hilariously wrong and irrational all your posts are
which ones?
because I have a feeling you can't tell which ones are mine at all. Because you know nothing about paleontology.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Respond to the actual point here instead of trying to change the subject. That you are faking expertise and using stolen pictures to make your troll persona appear more legitimate.
Post a timestamped photo of this face that is supposedly yours.
This is the lynchpin of your entire existence here posting really awful, irrational, and handwaved arguments. Your claim to authority and therefore argumentative supremacy that could only fool an absolute imbecile. If this one claim is correct, that you stole photos to larp, it casts doubt on your character and claimed education. Rationally we could assume that because you used such a classic trolling tactic that everything you posted was entirely inflammatory schizo seething.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>That you are faking expertise
You can't fake expertise in the presence of an expert
you are not an expert so you can't tell if I'm 'faking expertise.'
nor can you explain why I would want to.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Respond to the actual point here instead of trying to change the subject.
Post a timestamped photo of this face that is supposedly yours.
11 months ago
Anonymous
will that help you tell me from OP?
somehow I don't think it will. I think the only thing that would allow you to distinguish is another 4 years in school.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Stop deflecting. Either you are a massive samefag larp or you are not. Are you trying to buy time while you figure out how to use photoshop? Timestamp now or GTFO. It's your face you post here all the time and you definitely have a camera, paper, and a pen. If you can not provide this in the next couple of minutes I will accept your concession
That you are an autistic schizoid troll using known and easy tactics to create inflammatory bullshit threads that push a narrative that tickles his pickle and helps boost his ego
11 months ago
Anonymous
>you are an autistic schizoid troll using known and easy tactics to create inflammatory bullshit threads that push a narrative that tickles his pickle and helps boost his ego
oh I haven't posted a thread in over a decade.
since you're not educated enough to tell if my posts are true or accurate, I'll do your portrait.
would you like a pic of my dogs as well?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Tick tock. Five minutes. Six minutes. How long will it take? Still busy figuring out photoshop?
You're a fraud.
>you are an autistic schizoid troll using known and easy tactics to create inflammatory bullshit threads that push a narrative that tickles his pickle and helps boost his ego
oh I haven't posted a thread in over a decade.
since you're not educated enough to tell if my posts are true or accurate, I'll do your portrait.
would you like a pic of my dogs as well?
You mean a cropped paw photo of someone elses dogs you found on instagram or a private section of a certain forum correct?
Wauf lore ahead:
There was this one schizo with a youtube channel called "i hate dogs" who shilled his recently uploads on Wauf. He has a zooville account, that can see private forums where the zoofags post actual photos of their dogs. He uses it to make vlogs where he browses zooville and says stuff like "this is what you expect from DOG NUTTERS who worship these SHIT BEASTS. All dog worshippers are the same". Just an interesting tidbit about a known crazy Wauf poster that demonstrates that trolls will wade through literal shit like animal rapist forums to get more ammo for their shitposts.
Why do trolls do this? Idk mental illness
11 months ago
Anonymous
yes, you're very smart
have a cookie
11 months ago
Anonymous
Did he finally figure out photoshop or was anon's original theory about the schizophrenic divorcee the right one?
While you're posting timestamps (that do have some wonky lighting and shading going on) how about you show us your diploma with your face next to it?
11 months ago
Anonymous
Please refrain from using the word "expert". The past decade has shown that word has no meaning.
almost to bump limit again, Schizo
weird how that keeps happening to your stupid threads, no?
Are you claiming threads reaching bump limit is a sign of failure? Just how fucking retarded are you? Best part is, I didn't even make the thread.
No, all the information for that judgement was contained in the posts I quoted during my response.
[...]
You're literally getting cucked out of control of the thread thanks to the discussion shifting to someone you disagree with. Regardless of how insane the """paleontologist""" looks you will always look infinitely worse as he takes a shit on you lmao. Keep it up.
>I'm derailing a thread! Look at me go!
Amazing work. Do you feel in control?
>why should anyone care whether or not you're a paleontologist?
they shouldn't.
unless they happen to be one as well.
Even then they shouldn't care. The fastest way to get me to stop listening to someone is for them to claim expertise in anything. You can say things like "I'm a paleontologist" as a basic staring point for where you are or "I'm really interested in herons" in a discussion about herons and I'll hear what you have to say, but as soon as you start trying to wave around credentials my ears shut completely off. I've worked with far too man "experts" and seen too many retarded lib bandwagons "experts" have droolingly signed onto for virtue signalling points to ever "trust the experts". In fact, getting a bunch of scientists to sign onto a statement is the surest and fastest way to convince me your position is wrong.
says the guy who bases his arguments on hating and distrusting the chinese and invalid phylogenetic comparisons between animals specialized to different environments over 90 million years apart, and says the mangled death pose is the natural posture of an animal despite wear marks on the bones implying otherwise?
You retarded bitch. This has been slowly and thoroughly explained to your downie ass multiple times. The chinese are LITERALLY engaging in a massive level of fraud that involves dinosaur fossils. This isn't even up for debate. The only "debate" is that stupid westerners always claim they can't be fooled by the dragon bone trade, yet get fooled by it continuously because you're sloppy whores who never examine any evidence and just all circlejerk each other. I think the reason you defend the chinese so much is because downies like you look oriental.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>as soon as you start trying to wave around credentials my ears shut completely off
you have an infant's understanding of the topic so I have no other basis for communicating with you aside from >ME PALEONTOLOGIST
I would love it if we could have a reasoned discussion on the evolution of the jugal foramen or whether the stapes supported the hypoglossal nerve or how we tell pneumatic pleurocoels from pulmonary diverticulae. But you can't talk about that so here we are.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Have you tried just making arguments and backing them up with some kind of source? That tends to work better than "ME EXPERT!! TRUST FAUCI!!"
>jugal foramen or whether the stapes supported the hypoglossal nerve or how we tell pneumatic pleurocoels from pulmonary diverticulae. But you can't talk about that so here we are.
Nobody cares about this shit. You're just throwing shit out you think sounds smart. If anything I would be interested in talking about the vocal structures of dinosaurs or their face musculature.
>muh chinese fraud
Could it be a large landmass that has been historically rich in life with a bunch of insects digging through it has a lot of fossils? Ones showing plausible adaptations and mutations that North American ones do not?
No because you hate the chinks a little too much apparently
China numba wuan. American piggu go extinct because too gay
You could accept the reality of a phenomenon or be a complete gay. You have chosen the latter. I have no control over this.
I don’t feel like it because your inability to get a finger-face-note shot when you have the note and camera offhand is damning enough for me. Also no censored diploma with hand. Lal!
Why are you insisting on 7,000 timestamped screenshots of a random poster? Fuck off with your /soc/ bullshit.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Have you tried just making arguments and backing them up with some kind of source?
why do you think everything is a debate?
>If anything I would be interested in talking about the vocal structures of dinosaurs or their face musculature.
what do you think I just said?
you lack the ability to talk about those things in any meaningful way because you not only don't know the words for it, but you also don't know the objects those words refer to or what they imply.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>why do you think everything is a debate?
In paleontology? Because almost 100% of the shit believed by the mainstream is not only nonsense, but insultingly dishonest, idiotic nonsense.
There is nothing paranoid about a probable troll stalling when accused due to their similarities to trolls in the last. This is like part 3 of a live chat exam for CIA agents: “avoid proving who you really are”
But we’re not CIA here. Just bored. One of us is a high paid underworked individual with a masters the other is a larping incel with decent photoshop skills. With how similar the disciplines are i can see how paranoid schizophrenics see “glowies” everywhere.
[...]
Your argument rests on, besides everyone being the same guy who has followed your rants for a year, a claim to authority and arcane knowledge that has yet to be presented. Typical.
>Your argument rests on, besides everyone being the same guy who has followed your rants for a year, a claim to authority and arcane knowledge that has yet to be presented. Typical.
The fuck are you talking about?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>In paleontology? Because almost 100% of the shit believed by the mainstream is not only nonsense, but insultingly dishonest, idiotic nonsense.
so what?
do you think I disagree with you about everything you say?
I agree with you and you change your stance just to argue. Also you almost never support your own "arguments," or if you do it's by misunderstanding something and then insisting your misunderstanding is the truth.
this is called a straw man. It's an informal fallacy and an invalid argument.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I ALWAYS back up my arguments, gay.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>I ALWAYS back up my arguments, gay.
perhaps I have you confused with one of your other personalities.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Honestly, IDs on every board would help immensely.
11 months ago
Anonymous
ID's don't work for the same reason banning doesn't work.
11 months ago
Anonymous
It's not for ban evasion purposes. Just to keep track of who you're talking to.
11 months ago
Anonymous
just because the mechanics are the same doesn't mean it's for the same purpose.
ID's don't work because most of us post from dynamic IP's and multiple devices.
bans also don't work for the same reason.
11 months ago
Anonymous
They work fine on other boards.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>They work fine on other boards.
works fine for people that can't afford multiple devices or dynamic IP's.
so yeah, poorfags are easy to ID. Meanwhile one rich anon will present with dozens of ID's.
11 months ago
Anonymous
ok
11 months ago
Anonymous
>muh chinese fraud
Could it be a large landmass that has been historically rich in life with a bunch of insects digging through it has a lot of fossils? Ones showing plausible adaptations and mutations that North American ones do not?
No because you hate the chinks a little too much apparently
China numba wuan. American piggu go extinct because too gay
11 months ago
Anonymous
Dude, I'm actually in academia. Your peers don't just go extinct lmao. The moment you have open access you have to actively ignore thousands of people to claim that you have nobody to talk to. I have literally pinged complete randos who published tech reports I was interested in and became close friends with them in a matter of weeks. Either you don't know about that (unlikely, if you're a paleontologist), you're technologically illiterate (unlikely, if you're on Wauf), or you're a coward who's afraid to talk to people (unlikely, if you're posting pictures of your supposed self on Wauf). >sometimes I meet actual educated people here and that's always fun
That doesn't answer the question. Why do you think intermittently posting an image and acting like a paleontologist is a good way to foster the discussion you're seeking? How will that attract educated people here?
I may be going too far in a few places but I'm somewhat fascinated by your delusions here. Maybe even more so than OP's.
11 months ago
Anonymous
there aren't as many dinosaur paleontologists as you think
even fewer theropod paleontologists
and even fewer experts on Allosaurus
>Why do you think intermittently posting an image and acting like a paleontologist is a good way to foster the discussion you're seeking? How will that attract educated people here?
it won't.
It may keep them here if they happen to stop by though. Because while nobody here understands what I say, that's by design. The people that understand what I'm saying are my target audience.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>there aren't as many dinosaur paleontologists as you think
How many are there? >and even fewer experts on Allosaurus
Those are some awfully high barriers to entry. How are you expecting representation from these people on Wauf? Your story is getting more and more ridiculous the more you defend yourself. >it won't.
So you agree with me when I say that labeling yourself as a paleontologist makes no sense? It doesn't give you what you want. >Because while nobody here understands what I say, that's by design. The people that understand what I'm saying are my target audience.
Okay, but that's content-specific. You can make esoteric posts that are picked up only by the finest Allosaurus experts all you want. The LABEL is what I'm questioning. Why claim to be a paleontologist and post pictures of some dude? What do you get out of that?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>How many are there?
about 500 >How are you expecting representation from these people on Wauf?
search the archives I guess >So you agree with me when I say that labeling yourself as a paleontologist makes no sense?
it keeps individual posters labeled. Nobody else here calls themselves a paleontologist because not one of them would survive my pop quizzes. >What do you get out of that?
I like to show off.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>about 500
And you're saying that you can't make conversation with five HUNDRED people to choose from? >search the archives I guess
For what? >it keeps individual posters labeled.
What? Bro you are LITERALLY looking for Reddit. >Nobody else here calls themselves a paleontologist because not one of them would survive my pop quizzes.
I don't call myself a statistician because I understand there's no way that would help foster the kind of discussion I want- why would I want people to know my credentials instead of just posting LaTeX directly? I also don't post pictures of my supposed self because I care about myself as a potentially public figure. >I like to show off.
But you won't actually PROVE your claims? Your "showing off" is currently resulting in you being made fun of for your mental disorders.
>Why claim to be a paleontologist and post pictures of some dude? What do you get out of that?
because random idiots buy it and he feels he "wins" because it makes him look so obviously serious and superior compared to the common anon? why do you think the Wauf guitar thread troll stole dozens of pictures of kane robert's gretsch guitar and used them to larp for months pretending to be a guitar guru so he could call peoples guitars shit and tell them to spend $2k minimum?
people have been caught reusing 2 year old photos from /soc/ and random instagrams many, many times on Wauf. it's a common troll to make inflammatory bullshit statements or just say things you personally believe and then try to make yourself right by appearing to have more of a stake in your posts by claiming someone else is your real face.
I know. But discussions like this existing probably brings that ego down a peg, no matter how much he'll deny it.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Your "showing off" is currently resulting in you being made fun of for your mental disorders
pretty sure you're confusing me with someone else.
which is fine.
again, nobody here has the technical knowledge to judge my posts.
11 months ago
Anonymous
No, all the information for that judgement was contained in the posts I quoted during my response.
>OMG TAKE MEDS CLEARLY T. REX HAD FEATHERS AND CHINA'S WORD IS GOD >I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THESE THREADS!! THAT'S WHY I SHIT UP EVERY SINGLE ONE AND LOSE MY MIND WHEN THEY APPEAR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!! >Proceeds to lose her (male) mind and derail thread after thread because someone disagreed with him (non-passing)
The fact is, modern paleongology is fucked all the hell up and no amount of posting pictures of dogs or whiling like a histrionic mongoose is going to change that.
You're literally getting cucked out of control of the thread thanks to the discussion shifting to someone you disagree with. Regardless of how insane the """paleontologist""" looks you will always look infinitely worse as he takes a shit on you lmao. Keep it up.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Why claim to be a paleontologist and post pictures of some dude? What do you get out of that?
because random idiots buy it and he feels he "wins" because it makes him look so obviously serious and superior compared to the common anon? why do you think the Wauf guitar thread troll stole dozens of pictures of kane robert's gretsch guitar and used them to larp for months pretending to be a guitar guru so he could call peoples guitars shit and tell them to spend $2k minimum?
people have been caught reusing 2 year old photos from /soc/ and random instagrams many, many times on Wauf. it's a common troll to make inflammatory bullshit statements or just say things you personally believe and then try to make yourself right by appearing to have more of a stake in your posts by claiming someone else is your real face.
11 months ago
Anonymous
You're missing the most important question: why should anyone care whether or not you're a paleontologist? Even if you are one, you're just a messenger. And a messenger is only as good as their ability to faithfully convey the message. And the message is truth. Modern soientists don't even like to use the word, because they know they deal in propaganda, not facts.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>why should anyone care whether or not you're a paleontologist?
they shouldn't.
unless they happen to be one as well.
11 months ago
Anonymous
supposedly this happened in /dog/ too and some of the "dog owners", who were also controversial personalities, who went silent just lost their source of stolen pictures
11 months ago
Anonymous
>Just a schizo that stole some pictures off an old fart's instagram
kek
I don't have an instagram
[...] >absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
you're discounting an entire field of science
while I agree botany is stupid, it's much better understood than dinosaur evolution. Pollen studies are standard stuff.
Be silent, dumbshit redditor.
11 months ago
Anonymous
you'll find me in the Wauf archives long before reddit existed.
the genetics of feather formation are legitimately interesting and imply that there may have been dinosaurs with transitional scale-feathers, like excessively long scales, or short scales that had branching, feather-like fuzzy edges but did not have the typical appearance of a feather. an individual theropod lineage could even lose both feathers and scales entirely. we just don't know until we find their integument.
I don't care if they had feather or not, but to me it's more fucked up how beaks developed. So the narrative is that dinosaurs are birds. Ok. But then how come there isn't a single bird species alive today that has no beak whatsoever? Like how did EVERY SINGLE dinosaur evolve the beak? Or is it that one single dinosaur specie developed the beak and then every other dinosaur died out and today's birds are all descended of one single fucking dinosaur? The fuck is going on?
>Or is it that one single dinosaur specie developed the beak and then every other dinosaur died out and today's birds are all descended of one single fucking dinosaur
It's probably something like that. The KT extinction event was pretty fucking hard on any animal that wasn't able to either hibernate or chill out underground. So it could have been very likely that only a few species of avian dinos made it. The Hoatzin actually retains their wing claws as chicks, so that could even mean that beaks evolved before modern wings did (unless I'm missing something, I have no idea)
Theropods had lips. Some had feathers. We have wear marks proving some species had very shitty arms. The only arguments against this range from complete incompetence to just being racist against whoever found the fossil that's an inconvenient truth. Back in reality, if most theropods we know did not have feathers it is entirely likely that most theropods in another region of the planet had diverged and developed them.
yes it's a Wauf fag not a scientist. this entire thread (well, 3 threads actually) is about the equivalent of watching vikings and then bitching about every slight historical inaccuracy down to them speaking english, and then making up complete bullshit and denying sources you don't like so you can continue feeling like you are smart once you run out of valid criticisms.
in fact i expect him to move on to Wauf and eventually 4chan if he gets kicked off Wauf.
>GLOWIES ARE DESTROYING CHRISTIANTY WITH NORSE PROPAGANDA!
[...]
There isn't one. Carpenter wrote a paper in 2001 claiming Theropods couldn't pronate their hands because they could twist them like humans (as if that fucking matters) and every retard from tumblr to reddit to deviantart has had a field day with it eventually over time turning Theropod hands further and further backwards to make ABSOLUTELY SURE the hands aren't pronated, until we get shit like this. Just why.
*couldn't twist them like humans
https://i.imgur.com/MlfyN3a.jpg
>this schizo: CHINKS TRICK FAKE SOIENTESTS! >Look at his "proof" >someone in china found a pile of bones and people aren't 100% sure why the bones are all in one pile
Wow, you are a fucking retard. You can not read, you just see the word "China" somewhere and start frothing at the mouth.
Your country degenerates with gay pride. China remains strong and takes the lead in the sciences. Your hatred, is just jealousy.
You dumb queer. They literally assembled a fake grouping of dinosaurs. It's not real, retard. They didn't find it like that.
>China strong
LOL don't make me post construction videos. You have yet to master the non-Carnosaur escalator.
>IT WAS FAAAAKE!
Source? You just hate chinese people, correct? That's your source? >Construction videos
Whatever makes you feel better after drag queen story hour.
How many dog pictures will it take for you to start your routine? You know the one >butt sniff bark bark eat poop dogs are a burden dogs are pests bark bark bark
11 months ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/0MasovL.jpg
He's more than just a toxofag. He's one of the manic dog hating schizos.
You can drive him insane just by posting dogs.
Once again - you should stop personalizing your inner demons. It's unhealthy.
Also: dogthreads are literal cancer for Wauf and should be isolated in general containment (if our janitor wasn't a fag).
11 months ago
Anonymous
>dogthreads are literal cancer for Wauf and should be isolated in general containment (if our janitor wasn't a fag).
the irony
11 months ago
Anonymous
Kek. In the fossil record of the Earth, many more animals became extinct than exist at the moment. Complex organic life has evolved over hundreds of millions of years, giving rise to an unprecedented variety of flora and fauna unique to each time period. Not to mention that for biology there is no division into extinct and existing nature, since everything adds up into a single whole picture. Only a braindead buttsniffin' cuck could dare to even voice the idea of bringing all this manifold into one single thread.
Buttsniffers, on the other hand, spam the same specific "animal" (unnatural man-made abomination that destroys ecosystems and spreads disease) creating dozens of useless threads, whose existence is justified only by unconventional sexual orientation of the local janitor.
11 months ago
Anonymous
I meant that most of this board would love to see you rangebanned for life, so seeing you complain about other users is ironic.
your justification for spamming the board with your nonsense is cute, but at the end of the day Wauf dislikes you pretty deeply.
11 months ago
Anonymous
Looks like the mindbreak was delayed by a night, but it did work.
Dogs are wonderful animals. Dogs are lovely friends. Dogs are safer than bicycles especially if you avoid guard and attack dog breeds. If someone does not like dogs that is a sign they are mentally ill or subhuman. God likes dogs, so he punishes nations who don’t take care of their dogs with the plague of rabies. Except for 4 or 5 breeds, dogs don’t cause any problems, humans do. Man I love dogs.
>bark bark
11 months ago
Anonymous
Looks like the mindbreak was delayed by a night, but it did work.
Dogs are wonderful animals. Dogs are lovely friends. Dogs are safer than bicycles especially if you avoid guard and attack dog breeds. If someone does not like dogs that is a sign they are mentally ill or subhuman. God likes dogs, so he punishes nations who don’t take care of their dogs with the plague of rabies. Except for 4 or 5 breeds, dogs don’t cause any problems, humans do. Man I love dogs.
11 months ago
Anonymous
dogs smell really good too, especially intact female collies. I have a smol collie girl and i love smelling her neck fluff.
Also yeah it’s obvious that some theropods had feathers, turned arms, etc and some didn’t this guy is a moron who cant into paleo journals and just rants about deviantart and twitter.
11 months ago
Anonymous
He can’t into basic logic either, or else he would like dogs more. He strikes me as a manic, bitter, and hateful individual who refuses to think further than he needs to feel angry… almost as if his life’s purpose is being mad on the internet.
>cats smell, are stupid, don't love you, give you brain worms >this somehow has to be something to do with dogs
11 months ago
Anonymous
Most of that shit is just dogmoron propaganda. Cats don't smell at all. Only their litterbox does if you don't clean it. So clean it. Obviously cats love their owners, unless you mistreat them. Dogs really aren't that fucking smart. And most of the shit about toxoplasmosis is fad diet tier conspiracy theory fucking nonsense. Nobody has ever been made gay by a cat.
Where do the supinated arms meme comes from, I mean whats the scientific basis for it?
There isn't one. Carpenter wrote a paper in 2001 claiming Theropods couldn't pronate their hands because they could twist them like humans (as if that fucking matters) and every retard from tumblr to reddit to deviantart has had a field day with it eventually over time turning Theropod hands further and further backwards to make ABSOLUTELY SURE the hands aren't pronated, until we get shit like this. Just why.
Does any of you have the meme that says "dinosaur had feathers" "actually they didn't" on loop while a totally mentally healthy individual says "trust the science bigot"
>The lower jaw is true to the bones in being narrower than the upper
By kind of do I meant the head widens towards the mouth and is thinner at the top like in the T. rex. As far as the jaws go with the flesh they're roughly the same width there. In the bones the lower fits completely within the upper on the left and right side.
I don't think he's an ESL. Just a nerdy gay with a bad lisp. it would have been fixed if he gotten shoved into lockers and his lunch money stolen in his formative years.
Oh no, he's definitely ESL. And painfully at that. Also, he needs to drop the fucking robot voice that's taking over youtube and stop over-pronouncing his 'T's.
I think OP should be made keenly aware that literally nobody gives a fuck about his shit.
They just can't stand to see someone be wrong on the internet. As soon as he shuts up the topic dies for lack of interest. He could just as well be posting about how tomatoes aren't fruits. Any wrong shit is the same as his wrong shit.
it's enjoyable watching a verified schizophrenic accidentally destroy his own arguments about being "rational" and "science minded" unlike the ebul paleontologists by utterly ignoring images of a living animal that even a child could understand.
he really just has proved that his obsession with dinosaurs is entirely based on jurassic park and is pissed that the scientific understanding of these animals has moved on from a film that released nearly 30 years ago.
And yet, no one has refuted any of the points of these threads. All we've seen so far is just personal insults (towards several posters as to one, lol) and far-fetched excuses (often emerging from a banal ignorance of basic biology). Not to mention zealously ignoring the most glaring fossil examples, like:
https://i.imgur.com/7z0Hx6P.jpg
Meanwhile, the real animal:
- No traces of feathers (just as from a phylogenetic point of view)
- Jaw bones are full of holes typical only for lipless animals
- The forelimbs are in a straight functional position (Wait... Is the right arm pronated? Oh, no, no, no...)
Once again - why are glowie "scientists" even allowed to publish anywhere?
Previous: [...]
[...]
But what we definitely saw in these threads in sufficient quantities is the off-scale amount of autofelation and parroting. So, I'm just forced to re-raise OP's question that remains unanswered:
Because you're not worth engaging. Someone could bring up irrefutable evidence based purely on fossil finds and you'll instantly say the rock itself is fake chinese propaganda. Every post you make drips with smug pseudo-intellectual bullshit that makes it obvious you think you're the smartest person on the planet despite being a literal mental patient off his meds.
So stop projecting your own failings on to the people making fun of you for being a smug pseud and fuck off.
>And yet, no one has refuted any of the points of these threads
You literally got it spelled out to you several times. Like the retardation about T. rex lips being impossible because the lower jaw is thinner than the top, which got proven wrong immediately with a picture of a komodo dragon. These threads are dogshit
>got proven wrong immediately with a picture of a komodo dragon
Are you just fatuously kidding, or are you really a moron? (You're probably that same retard who drew a dental line along the inner jaw cavity, and then went excusing that "an extra centimeter does not play a role", aren't you?)
Do the Varanids have a thinner lower jaw than the upper jaw or not? That was the basis of your argument for T. rex not having lips, and its pretty fucking obvious what the answer is judging by picrel
OP is actually multiple schizophrenic personas across Wauf. Not just the dino guy. Since he doesnt discuss anything and just screams about glowies while flapping his hands you can go off topic to mess with his brain. Bring up lemurs, or say anything positive about dogs.
>ackshually i'm BTFOing the redditors by making the most reddit take possible >LE DINOSAUR FROM A MOVIE I WATCHED WHEN I WAS A KID IS THE MOST REALISTIC ONE EVAR >FEELS OVER REALS
No amount of meds can fix that, redditor.
>LE DINOSAUR FROM A MOVIE I WATCHED WHEN I WAS A KID IS THE MOST REALISTIC ONE EVAR
It literally is. Aside from one other reconstruction. It just burns feathergays up that a fantasy movie based on genetic engineering has more anatomical veracity than all their library of chudsaurus literature published in the past 30 years.
Because you're not worth engaging. Someone could bring up irrefutable evidence based purely on fossil finds and you'll instantly say the rock itself is fake chinese propaganda. Every post you make drips with smug pseudo-intellectual bullshit that makes it obvious you think you're the smartest person on the planet despite being a literal mental patient off his meds.
So stop projecting your own failings on to the people making fun of you for being a smug pseud and fuck off.
>Gets mad at heresy >Claims to not care about heresy >Is literally an inquisitor tracking it down 24/7 and trying to purge it
RENT FREE
I could kill everyone in this thread with the flick of my wrist.
Not with backwards hands, chudsaurus.
https://i.imgur.com/lato6OO.jpg
[...]
If you look at the pic that I posted, the lizards have closed jaws but their teeth don't overhang. There isn't very much there for a gap to accommodate. Even in the most extreme example with the crocodile monitor, [...] [...] the teeth still don't overhang like they do with the dinosaurs.
That said, I don't know if it means whether they had lips or not. I know there are some salamanders with theropod-like overbites (picrel) but the exposure of their teeth seems to vary from what I've seen.
I don't think amphibians are a great corollary. As you've said, their tooth exposure varies greatly, but their entire jaw and tooth structure is different. If T. rex had teeth in the same size ratio they'd be like 1/3 the size.
https://i.imgur.com/IjpLAaK.jpg
The croc monitor isn't the most extreme example as far as overhang goes though, in Komodo dragons the teeth very much overhang the lower jaw
There are a few differences though. Varanids have very thin mandibles, unlike Tyrannosaurs and also the line of the mandible and maxilla create a noticable gap even when the mouth is completely closed. This doesn't happen in Theropods. When they close their mouths, the maxilla and mandible line up. When a T. rex holds its mouth open to make the teeth overlap to the same degree as a Varanid, you can clearly see the mouth is slightly ajar.
this dumb fucking gay is still trying to apply phylogenetic bracketing to animals that have been dead for 90 million fucking years.
fuck, according to phylogenetic bracketing humans can not possibly exist as they do now. we have too many traits that are novel given literally all our relatives. we are as impossible as this gay's theoretical croco-dinosaurs.
You mean like the schizoid hominoid that keeps making these threads and dismissing fundamental rebuttals of his argument's legitimacy as a government conspiracy?
20 minutes in ms paint so the schizo can finally understand the """"""""""""mystery"""""""""""""" of why there's so many feathered fossils are appearing
what, you put a clearly better thermoregulated and smaller evolution branch that's evolving omnivorism to compete with more primitive versions of themselves and they outcompete all their living ancestors? WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED???
Nope. The only "feathered" Ornithischians are Kulindadromeus, which doesn't have feathers (and is a possible hoax) and Tianyulong which is a guaranteed hoax.
I like to remind OP that in the US pretty much all scientists either work for the government directly or work on government grants. He thinks this means the federal government decides the outcomes of science. It's funny stuff. Particularly when the delusion is applied to something completely meaningless like what dinosaurs looked like or how many people choose gender reassignment surgery.
>the schizophrenics are dangerously close to exposing our nefarious plans.
but OP is fighting the good fight by posting his understanding of how dinosaurs ACTUALLY looked on a dark corner of a sentinalese mortar and pestle forum where almost 3 people will read it.
He must be silenced, and if he can't be silenced he must be disagreed with and discredited!
a meme phrase coined by a schizophrenic to describe letter agency agents, that was borrowed by 4chan et al because it was funny, and then later it was in an ironic twist stolen from 4chan by schizophrenics.
Actually I 100% agree with whoever the anti-dogfag guy is. Dogs smell and are gross.
>is also much narrower
Not even close, glowie. Stop being far-fetched excusing fag.
Actually, this is something you're wrong about. Clearly Varanids have this trait. Having said that, there appears to be this recent belief that T. rex is basically just a Varanid which is wrong in the EXTREME. There are similarities but they're not the same. Varanids are unusual because their teeth are almost totally embedded in their gums. This is an unusual trait for most reptiles. All dinosaurs have a VERY distinct gumline with well defined crown and root, just like mammals.
the fuck does glowie means you /tvpol/fags
Glowie is what glowmorons say because they're not permitted to say "moron". Members of alphabet agencies. Abundant on Wauf. Pretty much all trannies or other forms of sex pest.
a glowie is a member of the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc. A federal agent of the United States of America in law enforcement or espionage.
OP actually thinks federal agents are subverting the populace through speculative dinosaur reconstruction.
In real life glowies are tracking OP because he's a racist and mentally ill.
Why would someone be tracked for "racism"? This isn't a European site.
CIA agent here. can confirm we are putting chemicals in the science to make the freakin raptors gay.
Believable. I think you're actually putting chemicals into the colleges to make STEMfags retarded though.
this
I like to remind OP that in the US pretty much all scientists either work for the government directly or work on government grants. He thinks this means the federal government decides the outcomes of science. It's funny stuff. Particularly when the delusion is applied to something completely meaningless like what dinosaurs looked like or how many people choose gender reassignment surgery.
>He thinks this means the federal government decides the outcomes of science
Oh it's much worse than that. Contrarianfagging and corporate money is what is driving most soience these days. If the government was driving it, it would be pozzed as all shit, but there would at least be some fucking standards. Not some random retard publishing stupid shit every other month like a paper claiming penguins have fangs and then deviantart producing 3,000 metric fucking tons of fanged penguin art that fed back into penguin biology science.
Fresh portion of humiliation for low IQ / just ignorant glowies. I remind you that for archosaurs, the lower jaw is often much narrower than the upper one and fits into it entirely, like in a sheath. At the same time, lips should always be in contact so as not to dry out.
So, in that case, hypothetical archosaur lips on the lower jaw would have to be unnaturally thick, +/- as thick as the jaw itself! The most unnatural anatomical feature.
Your excuses, sisterhood?
The lower jaw of Varanids is also much narrower than the top and the front half can fit completely inside the top jaw, they have a gap between the lip and toothline on the lower jaw to accommodate this. It's even more extreme than in T. rex in most cases. That is the most retarded reasoning possible
Are you blind or retarded? The picture is right there
>T. rex couldn't have lips because it's top jaw is much wider than the bottom one >picture posted showing Varanids have the same thing and have lips >Not even close
What did he mean by this?
>deliberately posts unique crocodile monitor as an example for all varanids >deliberately ignores its unique dental line angle
Ok, now I see. Maybe glowies are really stupid, one does not interfere with the other. But your main problem is that you are dishonest. Both with others and with yourselves.
Elon Musk told the truth that you hate everyone, yourself included.
>deliberately posts unique crocodile monitor as an example for all varanids
I can't tell if you mean unique in the length of the teeth or unique in the shape of the lower jaw but either way both are wrong. If you meant the width of the jaw literally every monitor in
https://i.imgur.com/VE1epKC.jpg
The lower jaw of Varanids is also much narrower than the top and the front half can fit completely inside the top jaw, they have a gap between the lip and toothline on the lower jaw to accommodate this. It's even more extreme than in T. rex in most cases. That is the most retarded reasoning possible
has a thinner lower jaw than the upper jaw. If you meant the length of the teeth both tricolor monitors and lace monitors have comparable teeth that are only slightly less long. If you meant unique in the way the top jaw curves upwards that's irrelevant to whether or not it overhangs the bottom >deliberately ignores its unique dental line angle
Can do the same comparison with V. panoptes which has the most baseline Varanid skull you can get and its the same result. picrel
https://i.imgur.com/sPdMRdl.png
Everything that can be said about glowies has already been said.
You do realise that moving the line over 1 cm like that still leaves the gap for the top teeth right?
https://i.imgur.com/CsDxfmI.jpg
You can literally see in the picture that the difference in width between the front half of the lower jaw and the top jaw is more extreme in the monitors than in T. rex. I didn't mention the gums covering the teeth at all. The gap between the lip and toothline is very pronounced on monitors and is visible in any image of one yawning
was just to show what I meant. I did it in 5 seconds on a track pad, either way the result is the same
>It's even more extreme than in T. rex in most cases.
Not really. Also, most of their teeth are barely visible since they're covered in gums. I don't know where you learned about a gap between the lip and toothline.
You can literally see in the picture that the difference in width between the front half of the lower jaw and the top jaw is more extreme in the monitors than in T. rex. I didn't mention the gums covering the teeth at all. The gap between the lip and toothline is very pronounced on monitors and is visible in any image of one yawning
That's literally what's highlighted in the pic you're replying to. Even if it weren't what you're showing still leaves the gap between the lower teeth and the lip so that the overhanging top teeth fit in the mouth, you literally just proved the point you tried to make in
https://i.imgur.com/TipMB0p.jpg
Fresh portion of humiliation for low IQ / just ignorant glowies. I remind you that for archosaurs, the lower jaw is often much narrower than the upper one and fits into it entirely, like in a sheath. At the same time, lips should always be in contact so as not to dry out.
So, in that case, hypothetical archosaur lips on the lower jaw would have to be unnaturally thick, +/- as thick as the jaw itself! The most unnatural anatomical feature.
Your excuses, sisterhood?
wrong
12 months ago
Anonymous
Are you blind or retarded? The picture is right there
The version without the shitty photoshop on it to see it clearer
If you look at the pic that I posted, the lizards have closed jaws but their teeth don't overhang. There isn't very much there for a gap to accommodate. Even in the most extreme example with the crocodile monitor,
https://i.imgur.com/YkE3WrZ.jpg
I mean...
https://i.imgur.com/4WP15E8.jpg
>deliberately posts unique crocodile monitor as an example for all varanids >deliberately ignores its unique dental line angle
Ok, now I see. Maybe glowies are really stupid, one does not interfere with the other. But your main problem is that you are dishonest. Both with others and with yourselves.
Elon Musk told the truth that you hate everyone, yourself included.
the teeth still don't overhang like they do with the dinosaurs.
That said, I don't know if it means whether they had lips or not. I know there are some salamanders with theropod-like overbites (picrel) but the exposure of their teeth seems to vary from what I've seen.
>lipped theropods were the norm in paleoart from the start all the way up until the 80s/90s where a couple paleoartist's personal taste and a certain movie changed that
Methinks you don't actually care about the science
>retrograde view of dinosaurs as large bipedal lizards
Those days are long gone. Science, you know, does not stand still. It developed diligently until Reddit was invented and the information field plunged into idiocracy.
Because the brain of a glowie is reduced by nature and is capable of "thinking" only in extremes. Dinosaurs were neither giant lizards nor toothy birds. Dinosaurs are typical archosaurs with all the consequences.
>can't have lips because thin lower jaw
[...]
[...]
Lol
Lmao even
/herp/ here, this is correct.
You are either a desperate autofellator, or glowies have a species problem with the perception (retardation in short).
>is capable of "thinking" only in extremes
Kinda like you with your stance on feathers and lips then >problem with the perception
I don't get it, are you trying to say monitors don't have a lower jaw that's thinner than the upper jaw and don't have room between the lower teeth and lip to allow this? Because that's what it seems like
Just as I've said - glowie "mind" is capable of "thinking" only in extremes. Or unable to think at all, as in this case:
>is capable of "thinking" only in extremes
Kinda like you with your stance on feathers and lips then >problem with the perception
I don't get it, are you trying to say monitors don't have a lower jaw that's thinner than the upper jaw and don't have room between the lower teeth and lip to allow this? Because that's what it seems like
11 months ago
Anonymous
What even remotely relates to an extreme in that?
11 months ago
Anonymous
>be gay OP >make outrageous claim that theropods has no lips at all like crocodiles >people call you out for you morony >"well you see I was actually saying that theropods had reduced lips"
now jannies can clean up your useless threads
11 months ago
Anonymous
Actually, this whole chain of threads humiliating modern "paleoartists" (edgy illiterate redditors) began with the statement that: >Jurassic Park version of T-Rexs is still the most realistic one
[...]
11 months ago
Anonymous
>ackshually i'm BTFOing the redditors by making the most reddit take possible >LE DINOSAUR FROM A MOVIE I WATCHED WHEN I WAS A KID IS THE MOST REALISTIC ONE EVAR >FEELS OVER REALS
No amount of meds can fix that, redditor.
11 months ago
Anonymous
>this whole chain of threads
I think the mods call that "spam"
11 months ago
SAGE
11 months ago
Anonymous
Actually, this whole chain of threads humiliating modern "paleoartists" (edgy illiterate redditors) began with the statement that: >Jurassic Park version of T-Rexs is still the most realistic one
The lower jaw of Varanids is also much narrower than the top and the front half can fit completely inside the top jaw, they have a gap between the lip and toothline on the lower jaw to accommodate this. It's even more extreme than in T. rex in most cases. That is the most retarded reasoning possible
https://i.imgur.com/zwAihXK.jpg
[...] >T. rex couldn't have lips because it's top jaw is much wider than the bottom one >picture posted showing Varanids have the same thing and have lips >Not even close
What did he mean by this?
Oh. So that's why the Apple show T Rex has a pear-shaped face and a Habsburg-style lower lip. This struck me as odd, as I well remembered that its skull was noticeably broader at the cheekbones and had an overbite. No, really, why are they doing this crap? They might as well paint it pink with blue hearts!
*LGBTQ+ sojaks': >just like a real animal
in 3, 2, 1...
Komodos don't have a pear shaped face. Some lizards and crocodilians do but it's positioned a bit further behind the jaw area around the throat. If that's what they tried to depict, they didn't do it properly. You should be able to see the structure from the side as well but you don't.
As for the habsburg lip thing, komodos don't have that either. Their lower jaw actually sticks out further than the upper one. There are lizards that do have an overbite but to a lesser extent than that pic of the t.rex.
>They don't
Wonderful explanation, you've really got those glowies on the ropes there >T-rex and comodo are from two fundamentally different sauropsida branches
Yet you still think theropods had crocodile faces? Sure they're both archosaurs but that's where the similarities end, they're in no way comparable ecologically in nearly all cases. Also it's Komodo
https://i.imgur.com/SqfQOrL.jpg
Komodos don't have a pear shaped face. Some lizards and crocodilians do but it's positioned a bit further behind the jaw area around the throat. If that's what they tried to depict, they didn't do it properly. You should be able to see the structure from the side as well but you don't.
As for the habsburg lip thing, komodos don't have that either. Their lower jaw actually sticks out further than the upper one. There are lizards that do have an overbite but to a lesser extent than that pic of the t.rex.
>Komodos don't have a pear shaped face
They kind of do, just not to that extent and it's harder to tell because they have less definition between the head and neck. Seems kind of weird but I guess it's still fine in regards to the T. rex
No. The jaw muscles of the diapsids are attached through the cheekbone, right through the notorious two holes. Don't listen to illiterate Reddit queers:
yes
OP doesn't care if something makes sense
He only cares if he likes the way it looks or not
*Dino fag
His mind is legit broken. This thread pushed him over the edge and now he's reverted to spamming lemurs and the "trump won" pastas instead of posting shit about being mad about feathers. He's made what, 3? 4 simultaneous threads about this? making multiples of the same bait thread on a slow board when your bait doesn't work and then going into a meltdown phase is classic Wauf schizo behavior.
The real cancer is dogcrap. All those buttsniffers should be isolated in one general instead of making bajillion cancer threads about their pe(s)ts. Paleothreds are ok.
I must concur with the other anons conclusion. These depictions have a realistic character, showing that dinosaurs may have had features we aren't aware of that do not fossilize well, and also keeping in line with modern scientific discoveries such as theropod lips and the vestigial, deformed nature of their forelimbs. In short, it is a faithful attempt to create an example of what dinosaurs could have looked like if they were real.
glowsisters, now that we know this, we know how to win
a stinky pear male baryonyx wants you to scritch and sniff his feathers! delightful, smelly pear scent. determined to by phylogenetic bracketing, his descendant is actually the lemur!
a fluffy tyrannosaurs, but this can not be? his hands make no sense until you realize it is so you can sniff his wrists and realize his lemurian progeny!
what if he's already getting help and this is as good as he gets?
I seriously doubt someone this crazy has escaped the attention of the medical and law enforcement crowd. If nothing else his parents had to have turned him over for treatment.
It appears the bone of that skull has shrunk, placing the teeth halfway out of the sockets exposing the cervix, cingulum, and placing the gumline halfway higher than it should be.
You should go join a discord server and be with like-minded individuals instead of posting here. What is even the point of arguing over what this dead animal's foreskin would look like in life?
Why did you make another thread to post red-herring misinterpreted bullshit when you were already BTFO, thoroughly, schizo?
The human pig hybrids are more believable than your entire position which relies on a falsehood (animals with lips do not have holes in their jaws!) and being racist against the chinese (who are all things considered, superior to you)
I don't know! Why are schizophrenics so insistent on continuously denying reality and thinking everyone is a federal agent/alien/satanic pedo cult member?
Who do you think you're talking to? I didn't answer that because I wasn't there for you posting pictures of tusks. You can see the gumline, moron, and analogous structures exist in other diapsids. There is no need for supreme function in evolution. It just needs to be a neutral, beneficial, or not sufficiently disadvantageous presence to persist as a mutation. In terms you can understand, animals can suck or rock. All evidence points to theropods having lip-like structures despite having intermediate traits linking them to crocodiles. This is feasible. As is a feathered animal losing its feathers and regaining scales, or two separate feathered and non-feathered but otherwise closely related (with regards to skeletal structure) lineages existing. Get dunked.
Meanwhile, the real animal:
- No traces of feathers (just as from a phylogenetic point of view)
- Jaw bones are full of holes typical only for lipless animals
- The forelimbs are in a straight functional position (Wait... Is the right arm pronated? Oh, no, no, no...)
Once again - why are glowie "scientists" even allowed to publish anywhere?
You should go join a discord server and be with like-minded individuals instead of posting here. What is even the point of arguing over what this dead animal's foreskin would look like in life?
I'm an actual scientist (biotechnologist, currently working as hydrobiologist) and I'm neither trannie, nor glowie. Maybe because I'm European, tho. America is cursed and obscurant novadays.
>Meanwhile, the real animal: >- No traces of feathers (just as from a phylogenetic point of view)
Uh oh! Sounds like some CHUD is not Trusting the Science!
When one leftie moron somehow got to the fossils of Dilophosaurus, saw sedimentary artifacts and took them for "traces of knuckles" on which the Dilophosaurus "allegedly rested".
https://i.imgur.com/QHa2OIg.jpg
Oh lord, do you think that's how the skeleton was found?
kek
that animal was restored and mounted in that pose by 1940's scientists. Almost nothing about that fossil is original. It's a combination of 3 different skeletons and about a ton of plaster.
you're a barrel of laughs,
Actually this is a cast from a real Dilophosaurus skeleton from the excavation site.
>Actually this is a cast from a real Dilophosaurus skeleton from the excavation site.
you might also like to know that the hips in that fossil are actually Allosaurus, and the head was missing when that skeleton was found. That particular head was added in the 1960's by one of my former mentors.
>"traces of knuckles"
I've actually never heard of this. Are you sure you don't mean the "traces of feathers" that turned out to be plant remains?
https://i.imgur.com/DrMeRkm.jpg
what the fuck is happening in this thread
Autism and fireworks. Happy 4th of July!
>They don't
Wonderful explanation, you've really got those glowies on the ropes there >T-rex and comodo are from two fundamentally different sauropsida branches
Yet you still think theropods had crocodile faces? Sure they're both archosaurs but that's where the similarities end, they're in no way comparable ecologically in nearly all cases. Also it's Komodo
[...] >Komodos don't have a pear shaped face
They kind of do, just not to that extent and it's harder to tell because they have less definition between the head and neck. Seems kind of weird but I guess it's still fine in regards to the T. rex
>They kind of do
They really don't. The lower jaw is true to the bones in being narrower than the upper. It's wider by percentage increase than the bones would indicate than the upper jaw, but that's about it.
>paleoschizo is a toxobrain
of course
I'm literally looking at my kitten right now. I'M LITERALLY GOING INSANE FROM THE BRAIN PARASITES!!! Help me! My cat made me gay!
please use a trip so we can easily filter you out
Please go down the road, not across the street.
Is this retard still going?
Theropods had lips. Some had feathers. We have wear marks proving some species had very shitty arms. The only arguments against this range from complete incompetence to just being racist against whoever found the fossil that's an inconvenient truth. Back in reality, if most theropods we know did not have feathers it is entirely likely that most theropods in another region of the planet had diverged and developed them.
>We have wear marks proving some species had very shitty arms
What?
>The only arguments against this range from complete incompetence to just being racist against whoever found the fossil that's an inconvenient truth. Back in reality, if most theropods we know did not have feathers it is entirely likely that most theropods in another region of the planet had diverged and developed them.
You MIGHT almost have a point (but still wouldn't) if it weren't for the fact that literally ONE CHINK is responsible for nearly every single "feathered" dinosaur ever discovered and almost all of them are from his home country. What is more likely? That a single person's work might be wrong or fraudulent or that decades of intense paleontological work by dozens of paleontologists are all wrong? T. rex is the (scaly) canary in the coal mine. It never had feathers and bodywide scales are basically impossible to develop from feathers, regardless of that one shitty paper.
>The lower jaw is true to the bones in being narrower than the upper
By kind of do I meant the head widens towards the mouth and is thinner at the top like in the T. rex. As far as the jaws go with the flesh they're roughly the same width there. In the bones the lower fits completely within the upper on the left and right side.
Oh lord, do you think that's how the skeleton was found?
kek
that animal was restored and mounted in that pose by 1940's scientists. Almost nothing about that fossil is original. It's a combination of 3 different skeletons and about a ton of plaster.
>Actually this is a cast from a real Dilophosaurus skeleton from the excavation site.
lol
it's a cast of a cast of 3 different skeletons from the excavation site restored into one and then posed.
you're a fucking tard
>Actually this is a cast from a real Dilophosaurus skeleton from the excavation site.
you might also like to know that the hips in that fossil are actually Allosaurus, and the head was missing when that skeleton was found. That particular head was added in the 1960's by one of my former mentors.
Really? This is the hill you want to die on? I wouldn't recommend it. Remember how western paleopseuds are always trying to convince everyone they can't be tricked by chinks?
>this schizo: CHINKS TRICK FAKE SOIENTESTS! >Look at his "proof" >someone in china found a pile of bones and people aren't 100% sure why the bones are all in one pile
Wow, you are a fucking retard. You can not read, you just see the word "China" somewhere and start frothing at the mouth.
Your country degenerates with gay pride. China remains strong and takes the lead in the sciences. Your hatred, is just jealousy.
>No traces of feathers
Correct >Jaw bones are full of holes
This is just a general reptilian trait for reptiles without beaks. It doesn't tell you anything about the state of the lips. Both crocodilians and lizards have these.
>The forelimbs are in a straight functional position
Correct. The "Theropods can't pronate" is a meme started, as most of them in pseudopaleontology, by ONE paper, then everyone endlessly parroted it and drew the logical retarded conclusion and now everyone is drawing Theropod hands backwards - a physically impossible position.
>mfw dinosaurs had floating legs
truly magical animals
I'm really starting to think most paleopseuds can't distinguish between taphonomy and true anatomy.
Why did you make another thread to post red-herring misinterpreted bullshit when you were already BTFO, thoroughly, schizo?
The human pig hybrids are more believable than your entire position which relies on a falsehood (animals with lips do not have holes in their jaws!) and being racist against the chinese (who are all things considered, superior to you)
The chinese are frauds and subhumans; whatever you like is irrelevant.
I don't know! Why are schizophrenics so insistent on continuously denying reality and thinking everyone is a federal agent/alien/satanic pedo cult member?
Oh right because they're schizophrenic lmfao
I mean Wauf has been full of glowmorons forever so it's not even an illogical conclusion. And where actual glowgarden gnomes aren't present, bots are. Dead internet is real. Having said that, this chudsaurus bullshit has nothing to do with feds. OP is mistaken. It has to do with narcissism, and dog-eat-dog grasping by every STEMfag, willing to publish literally any nonsense dogshit the public stands even a remote chance of listening to.
dinofags should be given their own board. The amount of threads they make is excessive, especially since non-avian dinosaurs dont exist right now. I can understand the dog and cat threads since they live in huge abundance among humans, but dinosaurs?
Whos the schizo? The one against or for adding features to dinosaurs? I guess if this thread is still up both are quite schizo
Don't confuse my autism for schizophrenia. I like biology and hate lies. I will defend to the death reality against all feathergays. Also, "schizo" just means someone smart enough to see through lies in the current age.
I've been following your fueds for weeks now, and here's where it's gotten:
>1 of the 2 anti-featherfags (aka paleoschizos) makes good points about fossil reccord evidence gaps
>in this thread about, he gets baited to a point where he has to talk about how much he hates dogs
>The Reddit-spacing-paleontologistfag (their nemesis) also makes some good points here and there, but mostly acts like a smug cunt and goes "sorry my dogma is right and you're wrong all the time because science tm said so"
>redditpaleofag actually likes dogs, but turns into a heckin' furryrino to BTFO scalefag, making dogfags look even worse
A Spectator can never win on Wauf...
I find your attempts to get me jannied for fucking with your schizo tendencies amusing
Man does that postit timestamp look photoshopped. Can’t get one held by fingers so it’s harder to fake? That smudged shading and associated visual artifacts exist nowhere else in your totally real image. The delay also makes me think it took you time to put that together.
I'm not trying to get you banned
being wrong and dumb isn't against the rules.
Held with your hands, by your face, please. Also show diploma with hand over name.
>Held with your hands, by your face, please.
sure, no problem
I don’t see a single finger. An easy shoop especially when you cant pull off a finger reveal in the same photo due to a skin tone or age mismatch
Your fabricated shitpost rumors? I can make claims to troll too, doesn’t mean any of them are true.
>Your fabricated shitpost rumors?
most of what I said can be verified online.
the rest I could only know if I am what I claim to be.
Yet it can not
I am familiar with trolling. I have done a lot of it, to blow off stress, or vehemently argue for a position i hate to test the veracity of my own beliefs, or to see how stupid people are, or just to fuck with them because they pissed me off on the wrong day and Wauf doesn’t let you really hurt anyone in the 5 seconds it takes to look them in the eyes, get in their face, and tell them why they’re a gay. And I haven’t seen any solid proof that you aren’t doing what I and countless others have done for weeks on end during depressive work-sleep-shit cycles. I made shoops like yours, even staged photos, and claims like yours, and right now you haven’t been able to do something i was never able to fake.
>you haven’t been able to do something i was never able to fake.
so do it.
fake me a good postit note on some boomer's face and then show me the same note on your screen over this thread. I'll give you 20 minutes.
I don’t feel like it because your inability to get a finger-face-note shot when you have the note and camera offhand is damning enough for me. Also no censored diploma with hand. Lal!
>damning enough for me
yes, that's the beauty of it.
you don't believe it and nobody else doubts it.
you are the joke.
More definitive proof is trivial to provide yet you stall. Interesting. The longer you take the less trustworthy it gets.
>paranoid
never would've expected that from a schizophrenic
There is nothing paranoid about a probable troll stalling when accused due to their similarities to trolls in the last. This is like part 3 of a live chat exam for CIA agents: “avoid proving who you really are”
But we’re not CIA here. Just bored. One of us is a high paid underworked individual with a masters the other is a larping incel with decent photoshop skills. With how similar the disciplines are i can see how paranoid schizophrenics see “glowies” everywhere.
Your argument rests on, besides everyone being the same guy who has followed your rants for a year, a claim to authority and arcane knowledge that has yet to be presented. Typical.
>One of us is a high paid underworked individual with a masters the other is a larping incel with decent photoshop skills
now I'm confused. You haven't shown any photoshop skills.
I must be too out of practice for them to be decent. Also, paleontologists are not paid well, at all!
You have stalled beyond the point of trustworthy proof. I maintain that you are a rather typical, classic even, shitposter. Also dogs are the best pets especially huskies.
>paleontologists are not paid well, at all!
you really are new here.
I accept your concession.
you do seem very receptive
Oniichan it’s so big…
The only well paid paleontologist i know OF is a full time professor and part time consultant and he didnt have time to post as much as you do, especially with how much he traveled. You have the posting habits of a senior developer who works less than 4 hours each day.
I'm retired. I have been for longer than Wauf has existed.
Rather this “I” you speak of is a fabrication and a rather blatant one at that
>this “I” you speak of is a fabrication and a rather blatant one at that
a remarkably consistent one over the last 10 years of Wauf history, however.
An easy lie to tell for someone with no trip and no believable evidence. You finish shooping those fingers yet?
>An easy lie to tell for someone with no trip and no believable evidence
oldfags know and newfags can fuck off back to where you came from.
it all works out.
>trust me
You stall and deflect any time you are pressed. You are the most obvious fraud on earth. Noice shoop though, almost as good as e girl scammers faking timestamps using the same general format.
>You stall and deflect any time you are pressed.
You're not that pressive, anon
Say what you want you’re still a fraud and your link to dogschizo posting is not a good look.
>your link to dogschizo posting is not a good look.
see, even if I prove who I am you still think I'm someone else.
you're retarded and there's no pleasing you.
you should fit right in here.
Sorry I forgot the person who posts like you when you are posting but never a minute sooner and falls for the same baits isn’t you and you totally don’t samefag multiple personalities because you would never do something so trivial on modern Wauf where personal mod attention doesn’t exist.
>OMG TAKE MEDS CLEARLY T. REX HAD FEATHERS AND CHINA'S WORD IS GOD
>I DON'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THESE THREADS!! THAT'S WHY I SHIT UP EVERY SINGLE ONE AND LOSE MY MIND WHEN THEY APPEAR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
>Proceeds to lose her (male) mind and derail thread after thread because someone disagreed with him (non-passing)
The fact is, modern paleongology is fucked all the hell up and no amount of posting pictures of dogs or whiling like a histrionic mongoose is going to change that.
this is as destroyed as the schizo gets bros. if you try again he'll just blame glowies.
>implying he'll stop after this
see you in next week's schizo thread
>schizoid gets backed into a corner
>runs out of ways to deflect
>can't do anything but lash out instead of responding
>his typing shows increasingly dramatic signs of aggravation
we're close
i can feelit
Stop talking to yourself, pls. And stop personalizing your inner demons. You really need help, dude (or whatever you identify yourself).
Oh my god it's snapshot
lmao. of course.
Honestly, you're the most annoying gay on Wauf. All you do is enter every single thread, start screaming that everyone needs to take medication and then never shut the fuck up with your incorrect talking points and off-topic spam.
says the guy who bases his arguments on hating and distrusting the chinese and invalid phylogenetic comparisons between animals specialized to different environments over 90 million years apart, and says the mangled death pose is the natural posture of an animal despite wear marks on the bones implying otherwise?
>despite wear marks on the bones implying otherwise?
I think by now he's had time to check my info about how that fossil was restored and discovered that I'm right.
he hasn't brought it up again anyways.
I seem to have a suHispaniciously large amount of info on that particular item for someone who's not a paleontologist.
>Schizo gets backed into a corner
>changes subjects to a different paranoid delusion
every time
Who. Are. You. Talking. To. Schizoid. Buttsniffing. Glowie. Retard?
ah roast schizo
the only thing that smells better than a husky's fur
we need more laced dinos in paleoart
here's your phylogenetic evidence
>but selective breeding
man was made in gods image so god liked fancy birds too
>but 90 million years
doesnt matter they're related
>Wyandotte
best breed we've had. they're pretty smart and chill
>this fucking idiot is still at it
Legit psychosis at this point
How's the funding cut plan coming along? Are Engh and Longrich quaking in their boots yet
>say i'll break his mind by posting dogs
>his mind breaks
schizos are my favorite playthings. you can tell them what they're going to do, and they actually believe they wanted to do it.
anon stop, he's going to commit a mass shooting
>MK-ULTRA trigger phrase: WHOLESOME COOKIELICIOUS HUSKY DOGWIFE AROMA
Who are you talking to, retarded queer? Besides myself, I counted at least four anons to whom you're shitposting here. Personally my last posts (and I'm not an OP, btw) were:
But at the same time, I suspect YOU in cancer posting with an extreme amount of samefagging and autofellation. You really should take your meds and finally stop your braindead barking.
>buttsniffers unironically exist
Wow... (I'm honestly shocked) So... How does your dog's butt smell?
(Hey janny-chud. You know, it's really vital for this board to display IDs. And also, ban that imbecile for samefagging and cancer posting and most importantly - for being a disgusting butt-sniffing LGBTQ+ tourist from Reddit.)
>And also, ban that imbecile for samefagging and cancer posting and most importantly - for being a disgusting butt-sniffing LGBTQ+ tourist from Reddit.
Why do you want to be banned so badly, tourist?
>accused of cancerposting
>immediately starts violently cancerposting
Based seething glowie retard. (pls, have a nice day already, and rid the board of your cringe)
>at least 4 anons agree with me
>they're all retarded like me
>they all talk like me
>when I go away they all do too
>when I post they do too
multiple personalities ftw
>How does your dog's butt smell?
kiss your mom and find out
>i swear to god i'm not the only schizo who midwittedly rambles about pop-sci dinosaur drawings and TV shows using hilarious misinterpretation of random fossil photos and pictures from google, "logic" based on severe misapplication of phylogenetics to compare animals separated by 90mil+ years, and extremely racism and distrust towards the chinese
however you are, without a doubt, the easily recognized "buttsniffer/bark bark bark" dog hate schizo (you've revealed yourself to be with that unique and easily recognized vocabulary), who everyone on Wauf already knows is an unreasonable mentally ill man who refuses to listen to any arguments or criticism and chucks insults and goes off on hateful, histrionic tangents.
So even if you aren't 1, you are 2, and ergo, not worth engaging with. Although you are most likely 1 as well as all these totally different dino-schizos share the exact same flavor of severe idiocy. Logical deficit, neurotic bias, etc.
To put it in much fewer words:
You have shown yourself to be incapable of fully rational thought.
Have a dog picture so you can go insane a little more.
Your cue to disregard everything he says was the OP. He actually thinks that scientific theories that make dinosaurs look stupid are a left wing/governnment plot to destroy masculinity. His evidence for this? Some nobody made a youtube video.
And his strongest argument yet! In two posts you should have known this thread was going to be garbage
A twisted skeleton, where he sees some twisted bones as proof of their natural position, and ignores the rest. With no preserved soft tissue, so he interprets absence of evidence as absence of evidence. It is widely known in the scientific community that there is no evidence for dilophosaurus having feahters. Or a frill. Or spitting acid. And it is widely known that apparently related species of dinosaur can have feathers or scales. In fact ,the mechanism that switches between them is so simple that even scientists understand it and were able to grow alligator embryos with feathers. Feathers are mutant, specialized scales, but not so different that losing and gaining them multiple times in a family is unlikely, and bird scutes are degenerated feathers.
>there is no evidence for dilophosaurus having feahters.
it was actually the second theropod after Archaeopteryx to have evidence for feathers.
Those were actually imprints in dirt that could have been multiple things, including primitive proto-feathers that looked more like somewhat fuzzy scales in real life, which would not have necessarily covered its entire body. The real life mainstream academic consensus, for ya youtube-focused schizos, is indeed "we're not sure". Although since it's an unknown, and people want to draw the whole animal instead of just the parts we have reasonable evidence for, artistic liberties may be taken depicting it with a wide variety of traits that have not yet been filled in by physical evidence. That's what the OP picture is doing, depicting a theoretical proto-feather covered animal. Only a complete idiot would take issue with that because we don't have definite integument for the species. I would personally draw a proto-feather that was more of a hard scale in the center with fuzzy edges producing a vibrant, laced pattern that helped break up the animal's outline and helped it hide from prey. Perhaps the scale fuzz would be longer in some places than others. That would be cool
Also here's a short paper on their forelimb morphology and function
https://palaeo-electronica.org/content/2019/2559-dilophosaurus-forelimbs
>multiple things
and by this i mean it could have very well sat on some grass. really.
but i'm sure if china found it some schizo would be screaming about faked feather fossils
>it could have very well sat on some grass. really.
sure, except grass didn't exist then.
https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.1118806
yes, that's what I said
grass didn't exist then.
*we don't have evidence grass existed that early
https://academic.oup.com/nsr/article/5/5/721/4769666?login=false
We went from "grass didn't exist alongside dinos" to "grass existed in the late Cretaceous" to "grass existed in the early Cretaceous" so it's hard to take a definitive lower bound on when grass first popped up seriously.
>it's hard to take a definitive lower bound on when grass first popped up seriously.
It's actually quite simple since it appeared on the opposite side of the globe about 100 million years after Dilophosaurus went extinct.
>seething over an informal illustrative comment
this is why autists are never successful in life despite muh iq
I'm not seething. I'm incapable of caring about the topic
I just thought since you guys like to show off your knowledge you might like to update it. If not that's fine too.
>I DON'T CARE! I DON'T CARE! LOOK HOW MANY POSTS I CAN MAKE!!!
almost to bump limit again, Schizo
weird how that keeps happening to your stupid threads, no?
>since it appeared
Go back before 2005 and you would have instead said "because grass didn't exist when dinosaurs did."
Literally: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. I'm not saying that you should start fan fictioning entire species and landscapes and acting like they're truth, but you don't have to be autistic about an offhand comment.
Or, well, most people don't at least.
Ah as
pointed out if you were being pedantic on "grass" vs. "grass-like plant" instead of timelines then that's fair. Pedantic, especially for an offhand comment, but fair.
>I would personally draw a proto-feather that was more of a hard scale in the center with fuzzy edges
yeah, for some reason you guys seem to be stuck in the 1980's back when people thought feathers evolved directly from overlapping scales.
one of the reasons that idea was rejected is because overlapping scales have never been found in dinosaurs. There are several other reasons to reject the hypothesis, but that's the main one a non-scientist will understand.
I know most proto-feathers we've found were pretty much just a hollow tube early in their development and later became downy, but overlapping "scales" made of well structured barbs-sans-central-calamus that fuzz out on the edges, giving the appearance of fuzzy scales, could have existed in theory, as the functional equivalent to the scale armor that shares a common ancestor with feathers.
>Overlapping scales have never been found
If anything overlapped it would have been a proto-feather that appeared to be a fuzzy scale.
In casual conversion I would still call the scale/feather ancestor on dino skin "scales".
*grass-like plant
Sorry my Wauf shitpost wasn't rigorous enough for you.
>*grass-like plant
>grass" vs. "grass-like plant"
no "grass-like plants" are known from that flora
Some foliage could have fallen off a conifer or part of a fern could have been crushed
The illustrative comment "sat on some grass" means "sat on some plant that would look like that" but you're a literal sperg who can't understand figurative language due to severe mental deficits.
I like that you think we can't recognize a fern or pine from a fossil
that's cute.
Yes because crushed, poorly preserved partial impressions of parts of plants always leave enough evidence for positive identification.
>We
Please, there are no paleontology grads on Wauf. Just a schizo that stole some pictures off an old fart's instagram. FYI instagram photo stealing enables a lot of Wauf larps because 'gram is not well indexed by google reverse image search.
>Just a schizo that stole some pictures off an old fart's instagram
kek
I don't have an instagram
>absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
you're discounting an entire field of science
while I agree botany is stupid, it's much better understood than dinosaur evolution. Pollen studies are standard stuff.
bro anyone with a protonmail account can make an instagram account and save pictures from anyone who hasn't gone followers and friends only
This is stupidly common with Wauf larps. On Wauf there was a guy who constructed at least 3 multiple personalities in the guitar thread using stolen instagram pictures. He was found out when someone was coincidentally following one of the people he larped as. If anyone claims to be someone or says stuff is theirs you NEED a timestamp because reverse image search won't turn up 99% of instagram photos.
>If anyone claims to be someone or says stuff is theirs you NEED a timestamp
I haven't bothered because any reasonable anon will immediately understand that just because I'm the old fart in the pics I post, that doesn't make me a paleontologist.
nor does being a paleontologist mean what I look like matters.
the only way to judge whether or not I'm a paleontologist is either to dox me (it happens) or understand the quality of my posts. Nobody here is qualified to judge the quality of my posts though. So I guess you guys are out of luck.
>Deflecting
What I'm saying is that anyone could claim to be a paleontologist and produce an apparently "original" picture and say "this is me, i am confident that i am right and will put my face to it", while actually using a stolen picture that reverse image search hasn't indexed. I have seen it happen when ONE GUY claimed to be three different guitarists just to stir shit for his personal schizo reasons and eventually got outed.
What I am saying is that picture was never you to begin with. If a picture on Wauf is not timestamped it is fake.
>that picture was never you to begin with.
which one?
you must be very new here if you think I've only ever posted one pic.
The Wauf troll I'm speaking of used dozens of stolen pictures from multiple people. No timestamps. None indexed by google. Why? Because they were taken from sites that google didn't fully index so they appeared to be original.
If you can't produce a timestamped photo (no shoops) of whatever you claim is yours or yourself, it's likely fake.
>If you can't produce a timestamped photo (no shoops) of whatever you claim is yours or yourself, it's likely fake.
fair enough.
I'm not sure how being a moderately attractive middle aged dude makes me a paleontologist though. Or why you'd think I post my pics as evidence that I am one for that matter.
Because stealing some random person's instagram photos carries little risk of being discovered as a larper and makes your shitposts look more legitimate.
I will say it again. ONE guy on Wauf was able to larp as over 3 different guitarists with dozens of photos each entirely by stealing from instagram, and people were only coincidentally able to discover one of his larps. When timestamps were pressed for after that, the "people" started going AWOL. He was primarily using these apparent credible totally real person personas to spread inflammatory opinions and start arguments. However, all of them were him.
>makes your shitposts look more legitimate.
you may be retarded if you think that's true.
>after seeing real evidence that a troll stole instagram pictures to add legitimacy to his shitposts in his effort to construct a narrative on his own terms...
>... you would have to be retarded to believe that i could do this stupidly easy thing myself!
>arguing with him
Oh yes the schizophrenic who is pretty much you in every aspect...
>Oh yes the schizophrenic who is pretty much you in every aspect...
almost every way except reasoning ability, googling ability, and knowledge.
aside from that he's quite similar to me. In fact he is copying me.
Badly.
lmao this is the least clever deflection for being caught samefagging i have ever seen
timestamp nao.
(Also this Wauf guy's MO and tendencies are really similar to yours but I ascribe this to the high level of similarity among individual schizophrenics and autists)
You constantly confuse me for an actual schizophrenic poster even though I'm usually arguing with him and destroying his shit.
but you're not knowledgeable enough to tell the difference so I don't mind.
You want people to label you a paleontologist but you're vaguely implying you're still "too scared" of producing any hard proof (despite putting forth literal pictures of your supposed face and a flippant attitude towards doxing).
>You want people to label you a paleontologist
kek
I want actual paleontologists to show up and discuss stuff. Or if not, at least some veterinarians or zoologists. I don't really care what the paleo schizos call me.
>I want actual paleontologists to show up and discuss stuff.
Why?
>Why?
because they're way more interesting than what we've got right now. And back in the day some did actually post here.
If you want that discussion why not just talk to your supposed peers in the field? Can you explain the logic in
>avoiding talking to your supposed peers
>hopping onto a board you know is infested with schizos and retards
>intermittently posting images of someone while claiming to be a paleontologist
>hope that this will someone attract your peers to discuss with you
kek
I want actual paleontologists to show up and discuss stuff. Or if not, at least some veterinarians or zoologists. I don't really care what the paleo schizos call me.
Does any of that make any kind of sense to you?
most of my 'peers' are dead.
sometimes I meet actual educated people here and that's always fun. And I'm constantly amused by OP and other fools spouting off wrong information like it's fact.
>most of my peers
Your peers are your fellow high school dropouts. You post your supposed face all the time and even posted an old photo in this thread, but you can't provide a quick handwritten timestamp? Perhaps that is because you stole someone elses photos to try and make yourself look more legitimate to less educated and intelligent people. Unfortunately it does not take more than a high school degree to see how hilariously wrong and irrational all your posts are. Even the ones where you argue with yourself to make yourself look even more right.
>it does not take more than a high school degree to see how hilariously wrong and irrational all your posts are
which ones?
because I have a feeling you can't tell which ones are mine at all. Because you know nothing about paleontology.
Respond to the actual point here instead of trying to change the subject. That you are faking expertise and using stolen pictures to make your troll persona appear more legitimate.
Post a timestamped photo of this face that is supposedly yours.
This is the lynchpin of your entire existence here posting really awful, irrational, and handwaved arguments. Your claim to authority and therefore argumentative supremacy that could only fool an absolute imbecile. If this one claim is correct, that you stole photos to larp, it casts doubt on your character and claimed education. Rationally we could assume that because you used such a classic trolling tactic that everything you posted was entirely inflammatory schizo seething.
>That you are faking expertise
You can't fake expertise in the presence of an expert
you are not an expert so you can't tell if I'm 'faking expertise.'
nor can you explain why I would want to.
Respond to the actual point here instead of trying to change the subject.
Post a timestamped photo of this face that is supposedly yours.
will that help you tell me from OP?
somehow I don't think it will. I think the only thing that would allow you to distinguish is another 4 years in school.
Stop deflecting. Either you are a massive samefag larp or you are not. Are you trying to buy time while you figure out how to use photoshop? Timestamp now or GTFO. It's your face you post here all the time and you definitely have a camera, paper, and a pen. If you can not provide this in the next couple of minutes I will accept your concession
That you are an autistic schizoid troll using known and easy tactics to create inflammatory bullshit threads that push a narrative that tickles his pickle and helps boost his ego
>you are an autistic schizoid troll using known and easy tactics to create inflammatory bullshit threads that push a narrative that tickles his pickle and helps boost his ego
oh I haven't posted a thread in over a decade.
since you're not educated enough to tell if my posts are true or accurate, I'll do your portrait.
would you like a pic of my dogs as well?
Tick tock. Five minutes. Six minutes. How long will it take? Still busy figuring out photoshop?
You're a fraud.
You mean a cropped paw photo of someone elses dogs you found on instagram or a private section of a certain forum correct?
Wauf lore ahead:
There was this one schizo with a youtube channel called "i hate dogs" who shilled his recently uploads on Wauf. He has a zooville account, that can see private forums where the zoofags post actual photos of their dogs. He uses it to make vlogs where he browses zooville and says stuff like "this is what you expect from DOG NUTTERS who worship these SHIT BEASTS. All dog worshippers are the same". Just an interesting tidbit about a known crazy Wauf poster that demonstrates that trolls will wade through literal shit like animal rapist forums to get more ammo for their shitposts.
Why do trolls do this? Idk mental illness
yes, you're very smart
have a cookie
Did he finally figure out photoshop or was anon's original theory about the schizophrenic divorcee the right one?
While you're posting timestamps (that do have some wonky lighting and shading going on) how about you show us your diploma with your face next to it?
Please refrain from using the word "expert". The past decade has shown that word has no meaning.
Are you claiming threads reaching bump limit is a sign of failure? Just how fucking retarded are you? Best part is, I didn't even make the thread.
>I'm derailing a thread! Look at me go!
Amazing work. Do you feel in control?
Even then they shouldn't care. The fastest way to get me to stop listening to someone is for them to claim expertise in anything. You can say things like "I'm a paleontologist" as a basic staring point for where you are or "I'm really interested in herons" in a discussion about herons and I'll hear what you have to say, but as soon as you start trying to wave around credentials my ears shut completely off. I've worked with far too man "experts" and seen too many retarded lib bandwagons "experts" have droolingly signed onto for virtue signalling points to ever "trust the experts". In fact, getting a bunch of scientists to sign onto a statement is the surest and fastest way to convince me your position is wrong.
You retarded bitch. This has been slowly and thoroughly explained to your downie ass multiple times. The chinese are LITERALLY engaging in a massive level of fraud that involves dinosaur fossils. This isn't even up for debate. The only "debate" is that stupid westerners always claim they can't be fooled by the dragon bone trade, yet get fooled by it continuously because you're sloppy whores who never examine any evidence and just all circlejerk each other. I think the reason you defend the chinese so much is because downies like you look oriental.
>as soon as you start trying to wave around credentials my ears shut completely off
you have an infant's understanding of the topic so I have no other basis for communicating with you aside from
>ME PALEONTOLOGIST
I would love it if we could have a reasoned discussion on the evolution of the jugal foramen or whether the stapes supported the hypoglossal nerve or how we tell pneumatic pleurocoels from pulmonary diverticulae. But you can't talk about that so here we are.
Have you tried just making arguments and backing them up with some kind of source? That tends to work better than "ME EXPERT!! TRUST FAUCI!!"
>jugal foramen or whether the stapes supported the hypoglossal nerve or how we tell pneumatic pleurocoels from pulmonary diverticulae. But you can't talk about that so here we are.
Nobody cares about this shit. You're just throwing shit out you think sounds smart. If anything I would be interested in talking about the vocal structures of dinosaurs or their face musculature.
You could accept the reality of a phenomenon or be a complete gay. You have chosen the latter. I have no control over this.
Why are you insisting on 7,000 timestamped screenshots of a random poster? Fuck off with your /soc/ bullshit.
>Have you tried just making arguments and backing them up with some kind of source?
why do you think everything is a debate?
>If anything I would be interested in talking about the vocal structures of dinosaurs or their face musculature.
what do you think I just said?
you lack the ability to talk about those things in any meaningful way because you not only don't know the words for it, but you also don't know the objects those words refer to or what they imply.
>why do you think everything is a debate?
In paleontology? Because almost 100% of the shit believed by the mainstream is not only nonsense, but insultingly dishonest, idiotic nonsense.
>Your argument rests on, besides everyone being the same guy who has followed your rants for a year, a claim to authority and arcane knowledge that has yet to be presented. Typical.
The fuck are you talking about?
>In paleontology? Because almost 100% of the shit believed by the mainstream is not only nonsense, but insultingly dishonest, idiotic nonsense.
so what?
do you think I disagree with you about everything you say?
I agree with you and you change your stance just to argue. Also you almost never support your own "arguments," or if you do it's by misunderstanding something and then insisting your misunderstanding is the truth.
this is called a straw man. It's an informal fallacy and an invalid argument.
I ALWAYS back up my arguments, gay.
>I ALWAYS back up my arguments, gay.
perhaps I have you confused with one of your other personalities.
Honestly, IDs on every board would help immensely.
ID's don't work for the same reason banning doesn't work.
It's not for ban evasion purposes. Just to keep track of who you're talking to.
just because the mechanics are the same doesn't mean it's for the same purpose.
ID's don't work because most of us post from dynamic IP's and multiple devices.
bans also don't work for the same reason.
They work fine on other boards.
>They work fine on other boards.
works fine for people that can't afford multiple devices or dynamic IP's.
so yeah, poorfags are easy to ID. Meanwhile one rich anon will present with dozens of ID's.
ok
>muh chinese fraud
Could it be a large landmass that has been historically rich in life with a bunch of insects digging through it has a lot of fossils? Ones showing plausible adaptations and mutations that North American ones do not?
No because you hate the chinks a little too much apparently
China numba wuan. American piggu go extinct because too gay
Dude, I'm actually in academia. Your peers don't just go extinct lmao. The moment you have open access you have to actively ignore thousands of people to claim that you have nobody to talk to. I have literally pinged complete randos who published tech reports I was interested in and became close friends with them in a matter of weeks. Either you don't know about that (unlikely, if you're a paleontologist), you're technologically illiterate (unlikely, if you're on Wauf), or you're a coward who's afraid to talk to people (unlikely, if you're posting pictures of your supposed self on Wauf).
>sometimes I meet actual educated people here and that's always fun
That doesn't answer the question. Why do you think intermittently posting an image and acting like a paleontologist is a good way to foster the discussion you're seeking? How will that attract educated people here?
I may be going too far in a few places but I'm somewhat fascinated by your delusions here. Maybe even more so than OP's.
there aren't as many dinosaur paleontologists as you think
even fewer theropod paleontologists
and even fewer experts on Allosaurus
>Why do you think intermittently posting an image and acting like a paleontologist is a good way to foster the discussion you're seeking? How will that attract educated people here?
it won't.
It may keep them here if they happen to stop by though. Because while nobody here understands what I say, that's by design. The people that understand what I'm saying are my target audience.
>there aren't as many dinosaur paleontologists as you think
How many are there?
>and even fewer experts on Allosaurus
Those are some awfully high barriers to entry. How are you expecting representation from these people on Wauf? Your story is getting more and more ridiculous the more you defend yourself.
>it won't.
So you agree with me when I say that labeling yourself as a paleontologist makes no sense? It doesn't give you what you want.
>Because while nobody here understands what I say, that's by design. The people that understand what I'm saying are my target audience.
Okay, but that's content-specific. You can make esoteric posts that are picked up only by the finest Allosaurus experts all you want. The LABEL is what I'm questioning. Why claim to be a paleontologist and post pictures of some dude? What do you get out of that?
>How many are there?
about 500
>How are you expecting representation from these people on Wauf?
search the archives I guess
>So you agree with me when I say that labeling yourself as a paleontologist makes no sense?
it keeps individual posters labeled. Nobody else here calls themselves a paleontologist because not one of them would survive my pop quizzes.
>What do you get out of that?
I like to show off.
>about 500
And you're saying that you can't make conversation with five HUNDRED people to choose from?
>search the archives I guess
For what?
>it keeps individual posters labeled.
What? Bro you are LITERALLY looking for Reddit.
>Nobody else here calls themselves a paleontologist because not one of them would survive my pop quizzes.
I don't call myself a statistician because I understand there's no way that would help foster the kind of discussion I want- why would I want people to know my credentials instead of just posting LaTeX directly? I also don't post pictures of my supposed self because I care about myself as a potentially public figure.
>I like to show off.
But you won't actually PROVE your claims? Your "showing off" is currently resulting in you being made fun of for your mental disorders.
I know. But discussions like this existing probably brings that ego down a peg, no matter how much he'll deny it.
>Your "showing off" is currently resulting in you being made fun of for your mental disorders
pretty sure you're confusing me with someone else.
which is fine.
again, nobody here has the technical knowledge to judge my posts.
No, all the information for that judgement was contained in the posts I quoted during my response.
You're literally getting cucked out of control of the thread thanks to the discussion shifting to someone you disagree with. Regardless of how insane the """paleontologist""" looks you will always look infinitely worse as he takes a shit on you lmao. Keep it up.
>Why claim to be a paleontologist and post pictures of some dude? What do you get out of that?
because random idiots buy it and he feels he "wins" because it makes him look so obviously serious and superior compared to the common anon? why do you think the Wauf guitar thread troll stole dozens of pictures of kane robert's gretsch guitar and used them to larp for months pretending to be a guitar guru so he could call peoples guitars shit and tell them to spend $2k minimum?
people have been caught reusing 2 year old photos from /soc/ and random instagrams many, many times on Wauf. it's a common troll to make inflammatory bullshit statements or just say things you personally believe and then try to make yourself right by appearing to have more of a stake in your posts by claiming someone else is your real face.
You're missing the most important question: why should anyone care whether or not you're a paleontologist? Even if you are one, you're just a messenger. And a messenger is only as good as their ability to faithfully convey the message. And the message is truth. Modern soientists don't even like to use the word, because they know they deal in propaganda, not facts.
>why should anyone care whether or not you're a paleontologist?
they shouldn't.
unless they happen to be one as well.
supposedly this happened in /dog/ too and some of the "dog owners", who were also controversial personalities, who went silent just lost their source of stolen pictures
Be silent, dumbshit redditor.
you'll find me in the Wauf archives long before reddit existed.
the genetics of feather formation are legitimately interesting and imply that there may have been dinosaurs with transitional scale-feathers, like excessively long scales, or short scales that had branching, feather-like fuzzy edges but did not have the typical appearance of a feather. an individual theropod lineage could even lose both feathers and scales entirely. we just don't know until we find their integument.
>samefagging paleo schizo is also the furious dog hater
is anyone really surprised
madness and idiocy begets itself
>histrionic
>samefags an essay format post dedicated to being mad and wrong
Mad and wrong
Mong
Lmao
dogs still smell great btw only subhumans think they stink.
>Calling everyone samefag
>Refusing to stop triple replying
>only one (you)
keep arguing with yourself schizo
I don't care if they had feather or not, but to me it's more fucked up how beaks developed. So the narrative is that dinosaurs are birds. Ok. But then how come there isn't a single bird species alive today that has no beak whatsoever? Like how did EVERY SINGLE dinosaur evolve the beak? Or is it that one single dinosaur specie developed the beak and then every other dinosaur died out and today's birds are all descended of one single fucking dinosaur? The fuck is going on?
>Or is it that one single dinosaur specie developed the beak and then every other dinosaur died out and today's birds are all descended of one single fucking dinosaur
It's probably something like that. The KT extinction event was pretty fucking hard on any animal that wasn't able to either hibernate or chill out underground. So it could have been very likely that only a few species of avian dinos made it. The Hoatzin actually retains their wing claws as chicks, so that could even mean that beaks evolved before modern wings did (unless I'm missing something, I have no idea)
>that could even mean that beaks evolved before modern wings did (unless I'm missing something, I have no idea)
it's possible but unlikely.
There are about 100 jurassic and cretaceous bird species known only from teeth. So if beaks evolved before wings, they apparently weren't very common.
It was just a movie.
Oh yeah? So was LOTR yet every millennial thought it was historically accurate.
>OP is a schizo in more than just dinosaur threads
I'd say its a surprise but its not
I'm not the one whining about someone complaining about dogs. It's just the local inquisition trying to ID an opponent and failing.
according to phylogenetic bracketing mammals should have evolved flowers by now
>according to phylogenetic bracketing mammals should have evolved flowers by now
KEK
Is this retard still going?
Theropods had lips. Some had feathers. We have wear marks proving some species had very shitty arms. The only arguments against this range from complete incompetence to just being racist against whoever found the fossil that's an inconvenient truth. Back in reality, if most theropods we know did not have feathers it is entirely likely that most theropods in another region of the planet had diverged and developed them.
yes it's a Wauf fag not a scientist. this entire thread (well, 3 threads actually) is about the equivalent of watching vikings and then bitching about every slight historical inaccuracy down to them speaking english, and then making up complete bullshit and denying sources you don't like so you can continue feeling like you are smart once you run out of valid criticisms.
in fact i expect him to move on to Wauf and eventually 4chan if he gets kicked off Wauf.
>GLOWIES ARE DESTROYING CHRISTIANTY WITH NORSE PROPAGANDA!
>vikings
Literally softcore gay porn.
*couldn't twist them like humans
You dumb queer. They literally assembled a fake grouping of dinosaurs. It's not real, retard. They didn't find it like that.
>China strong
LOL don't make me post construction videos. You have yet to master the non-Carnosaur escalator.
>IT WAS FAAAAKE!
Source? You just hate chinese people, correct? That's your source?
>Construction videos
Whatever makes you feel better after drag queen story hour.
Thought you couldn't be fooled? And now you're demanding proof of fraud? Lol
I don't really hate dogs, I just don't care for them.
How many dog pictures will it take for you to start your routine? You know the one
>butt sniff bark bark eat poop dogs are a burden dogs are pests bark bark bark
Once again - you should stop personalizing your inner demons. It's unhealthy.
Also: dogthreads are literal cancer for Wauf and should be isolated in general containment (if our janitor wasn't a fag).
>dogthreads are literal cancer for Wauf and should be isolated in general containment (if our janitor wasn't a fag).
the irony
Kek. In the fossil record of the Earth, many more animals became extinct than exist at the moment. Complex organic life has evolved over hundreds of millions of years, giving rise to an unprecedented variety of flora and fauna unique to each time period. Not to mention that for biology there is no division into extinct and existing nature, since everything adds up into a single whole picture. Only a braindead buttsniffin' cuck could dare to even voice the idea of bringing all this manifold into one single thread.
Buttsniffers, on the other hand, spam the same specific "animal" (unnatural man-made abomination that destroys ecosystems and spreads disease) creating dozens of useless threads, whose existence is justified only by unconventional sexual orientation of the local janitor.
I meant that most of this board would love to see you rangebanned for life, so seeing you complain about other users is ironic.
your justification for spamming the board with your nonsense is cute, but at the end of the day Wauf dislikes you pretty deeply.
>bark bark
Looks like the mindbreak was delayed by a night, but it did work.
Dogs are wonderful animals. Dogs are lovely friends. Dogs are safer than bicycles especially if you avoid guard and attack dog breeds. If someone does not like dogs that is a sign they are mentally ill or subhuman. God likes dogs, so he punishes nations who don’t take care of their dogs with the plague of rabies. Except for 4 or 5 breeds, dogs don’t cause any problems, humans do. Man I love dogs.
dogs smell really good too, especially intact female collies. I have a smol collie girl and i love smelling her neck fluff.
Also yeah it’s obvious that some theropods had feathers, turned arms, etc and some didn’t this guy is a moron who cant into paleo journals and just rants about deviantart and twitter.
He can’t into basic logic either, or else he would like dogs more. He strikes me as a manic, bitter, and hateful individual who refuses to think further than he needs to feel angry… almost as if his life’s purpose is being mad on the internet.
>cats smell, are stupid, don't love you, give you brain worms
>this somehow has to be something to do with dogs
Most of that shit is just dogmoron propaganda. Cats don't smell at all. Only their litterbox does if you don't clean it. So clean it. Obviously cats love their owners, unless you mistreat them. Dogs really aren't that fucking smart. And most of the shit about toxoplasmosis is fad diet tier conspiracy theory fucking nonsense. Nobody has ever been made gay by a cat.
>I don't like dogs either
>paleoschizo is a toxobrain
of course
He's more than just a toxofag. He's one of the manic dog hating schizos.
You can drive him insane just by posting dogs.
what the fuck is happening in this thread
Glowies are humiliated for their low iq and lack of education. Nothing really new.
>stops responding when he realizes he's wrong
>declares victory anyways
never change, shitso.
Mandatory Wauf paleoschizo thread.
WE WUZ
Looks like a Jim Henson creature.
There isn't one. Carpenter wrote a paper in 2001 claiming Theropods couldn't pronate their hands because they could twist them like humans (as if that fucking matters) and every retard from tumblr to reddit to deviantart has had a field day with it eventually over time turning Theropod hands further and further backwards to make ABSOLUTELY SURE the hands aren't pronated, until we get shit like this. Just why.
Does any of you have the meme that says "dinosaur had feathers" "actually they didn't" on loop while a totally mentally healthy individual says "trust the science bigot"
I uh...I don't know what to think about this.
Source? I want to laugh.
E.D.G.E on YouTube
Oh, boy...
This guy's ESL voice is like diamonds tearing a chalkboard completely the fuck apart.
Pic was meant for:
I don't think he's an ESL. Just a nerdy gay with a bad lisp. it would have been fixed if he gotten shoved into lockers and his lunch money stolen in his formative years.
Oh no, he's definitely ESL. And painfully at that. Also, he needs to drop the fucking robot voice that's taking over youtube and stop over-pronouncing his 'T's.
>has lips despite lower jaw being thinner than top
AHHH I'M GOING INSANE
I love how when OP leaves his stupid threads completely die
nobody cares about this shit.
nobody reads this shit.
nobody discusses this shit
nobody agrees with OP
If you die OP, not one person here will care.
Is that why you samefaggin' so hard around here?
yes
I think OP should be made keenly aware that literally nobody gives a fuck about his shit.
They just can't stand to see someone be wrong on the internet. As soon as he shuts up the topic dies for lack of interest. He could just as well be posting about how tomatoes aren't fruits. Any wrong shit is the same as his wrong shit.
Cringe. Also:
>reddit spacing
Cringe^2.
you have to go back newfag
Nice berserk reference
I could kill everyone in this thread with the flick of my wrist.
but anon, you're in this thread
He knows what he said
it's enjoyable watching a verified schizophrenic accidentally destroy his own arguments about being "rational" and "science minded" unlike the ebul paleontologists by utterly ignoring images of a living animal that even a child could understand.
he really just has proved that his obsession with dinosaurs is entirely based on jurassic park and is pissed that the scientific understanding of these animals has moved on from a film that released nearly 30 years ago.
And yet, no one has refuted any of the points of these threads. All we've seen so far is just personal insults (towards several posters as to one, lol) and far-fetched excuses (often emerging from a banal ignorance of basic biology). Not to mention zealously ignoring the most glaring fossil examples, like:
But what we definitely saw in these threads in sufficient quantities is the off-scale amount of autofelation and parroting. So, I'm just forced to re-raise OP's question that remains unanswered:
Is that a PNSO figure?
Yes.
Couldn't they have an upper lip but not a lower one?
Because you're not worth engaging. Someone could bring up irrefutable evidence based purely on fossil finds and you'll instantly say the rock itself is fake chinese propaganda. Every post you make drips with smug pseudo-intellectual bullshit that makes it obvious you think you're the smartest person on the planet despite being a literal mental patient off his meds.
So stop projecting your own failings on to the people making fun of you for being a smug pseud and fuck off.
>And yet, no one has refuted any of the points of these threads
You literally got it spelled out to you several times. Like the retardation about T. rex lips being impossible because the lower jaw is thinner than the top, which got proven wrong immediately with a picture of a komodo dragon. These threads are dogshit
>got proven wrong immediately with a picture of a komodo dragon
Are you just fatuously kidding, or are you really a moron? (You're probably that same retard who drew a dental line along the inner jaw cavity, and then went excusing that "an extra centimeter does not play a role", aren't you?)
You do realise the line you drew on the image of the komodo also shows the gap between the lip and lower teeth he was talking about, right?
Do the Varanids have a thinner lower jaw than the upper jaw or not? That was the basis of your argument for T. rex not having lips, and its pretty fucking obvious what the answer is judging by picrel
>And yet, no one has refuted any of the points of these threads.
every point you've brought has been thoroughly refuted
everyone sees it but you
not because you're smarter than everyone else, but because you're much dumber.
OP is actually multiple schizophrenic personas across Wauf. Not just the dino guy. Since he doesnt discuss anything and just screams about glowies while flapping his hands you can go off topic to mess with his brain. Bring up lemurs, or say anything positive about dogs.
If you think you've defeated OP, try me.
>LE DINOSAUR FROM A MOVIE I WATCHED WHEN I WAS A KID IS THE MOST REALISTIC ONE EVAR
It literally is. Aside from one other reconstruction. It just burns feathergays up that a fantasy movie based on genetic engineering has more anatomical veracity than all their library of chudsaurus literature published in the past 30 years.
>Gets mad at heresy
>Claims to not care about heresy
>Is literally an inquisitor tracking it down 24/7 and trying to purge it
RENT FREE
Not with backwards hands, chudsaurus.
I don't think amphibians are a great corollary. As you've said, their tooth exposure varies greatly, but their entire jaw and tooth structure is different. If T. rex had teeth in the same size ratio they'd be like 1/3 the size.
There are a few differences though. Varanids have very thin mandibles, unlike Tyrannosaurs and also the line of the mandible and maxilla create a noticable gap even when the mouth is completely closed. This doesn't happen in Theropods. When they close their mouths, the maxilla and mandible line up. When a T. rex holds its mouth open to make the teeth overlap to the same degree as a Varanid, you can clearly see the mouth is slightly ajar.
>NOOOOOOOOOO DINOSAURS DON'T LOOK LIKE EPIC GIANT DEATH LIZARDS LIKE IN JURASSIC PARK SO SCIENCE IS FAAAAAAAAAAKE
this dumb fucking gay is still trying to apply phylogenetic bracketing to animals that have been dead for 90 million fucking years.
fuck, according to phylogenetic bracketing humans can not possibly exist as they do now. we have too many traits that are novel given literally all our relatives. we are as impossible as this gay's theoretical croco-dinosaurs.
Also, glowies are much like parrots. They constantly repeat the same nonsense over and over again and think that it makes them look smart. Amusing.
You mean like the schizoid hominoid that keeps making these threads and dismissing fundamental rebuttals of his argument's legitimacy as a government conspiracy?
Uh OK schizo
20 minutes in ms paint so the schizo can finally understand the """"""""""""mystery"""""""""""""" of why there's so many feathered fossils are appearing
what, you put a clearly better thermoregulated and smaller evolution branch that's evolving omnivorism to compete with more primitive versions of themselves and they outcompete all their living ancestors? WHO COULD HAVE GUESSED???
Close, but the "feathered tyrannosauriods" are probably not actually correctly bracketed as tyrannosaruoids,
But we have feathers in Ornithischia too retard
Nope. The only "feathered" Ornithischians are Kulindadromeus, which doesn't have feathers (and is a possible hoax) and Tianyulong which is a guaranteed hoax.
I mean honestly you could draw a dinosaur covered in dildos and you can't prove they weren't giant animals running around with dildos covering them.
Does anyone know the book with the iguanodon sticking it's tongue through a hole in it's chin, that ISN'T 1985's 'When Dinosaurs Ruled the Earth'?
>52 replies
>14 unique ip
Rangeban this gay already
the fuck does glowie means you /tvpol/fags
a glowie is a member of the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc. A federal agent of the United States of America in law enforcement or espionage.
OP actually thinks federal agents are subverting the populace through speculative dinosaur reconstruction.
In real life glowies are tracking OP because he's a racist and mentally ill.
CIA agent here. can confirm we are putting chemicals in the science to make the freakin raptors gay.
this
I like to remind OP that in the US pretty much all scientists either work for the government directly or work on government grants. He thinks this means the federal government decides the outcomes of science. It's funny stuff. Particularly when the delusion is applied to something completely meaningless like what dinosaurs looked like or how many people choose gender reassignment surgery.
we're also hiding bigfoot and probably some aliums somewhere in roswell. Also the earth is flat and NASA is a psy-op.
the schizophrenics are dangerously close to exposing our nefarious plans.
>the schizophrenics are dangerously close to exposing our nefarious plans.
but OP is fighting the good fight by posting his understanding of how dinosaurs ACTUALLY looked on a dark corner of a sentinalese mortar and pestle forum where almost 3 people will read it.
He must be silenced, and if he can't be silenced he must be disagreed with and discredited!
the glowies monitoring OP need to put him in some sort of safe institution with no internet access
there has to be a complaint against him for an actual crime
and he has to reside in the US
sorry
even then we're just going to hold him for a couple weeks
a meme phrase coined by a schizophrenic to describe letter agency agents, that was borrowed by 4chan et al because it was funny, and then later it was in an ironic twist stolen from 4chan by schizophrenics.
Im not surprised the dinosaurs schizo is also the dogfree schizo, or just a schizo chameleon who turns into mimics of other schizos to troll
Actually I 100% agree with whoever the anti-dogfag guy is. Dogs smell and are gross.
Actually, this is something you're wrong about. Clearly Varanids have this trait. Having said that, there appears to be this recent belief that T. rex is basically just a Varanid which is wrong in the EXTREME. There are similarities but they're not the same. Varanids are unusual because their teeth are almost totally embedded in their gums. This is an unusual trait for most reptiles. All dinosaurs have a VERY distinct gumline with well defined crown and root, just like mammals.
Glowie is what glowmorons say because they're not permitted to say "moron". Members of alphabet agencies. Abundant on Wauf. Pretty much all trannies or other forms of sex pest.
Why would someone be tracked for "racism"? This isn't a European site.
Believable. I think you're actually putting chemicals into the colleges to make STEMfags retarded though.
>He thinks this means the federal government decides the outcomes of science
Oh it's much worse than that. Contrarianfagging and corporate money is what is driving most soience these days. If the government was driving it, it would be pozzed as all shit, but there would at least be some fucking standards. Not some random retard publishing stupid shit every other month like a paper claiming penguins have fangs and then deviantart producing 3,000 metric fucking tons of fanged penguin art that fed back into penguin biology science.
please use a trip so we can easily filter you out
Fresh portion of humiliation for low IQ / just ignorant glowies. I remind you that for archosaurs, the lower jaw is often much narrower than the upper one and fits into it entirely, like in a sheath. At the same time, lips should always be in contact so as not to dry out.
So, in that case, hypothetical archosaur lips on the lower jaw would have to be unnaturally thick, +/- as thick as the jaw itself! The most unnatural anatomical feature.
Your excuses, sisterhood?
The lower jaw of Varanids is also much narrower than the top and the front half can fit completely inside the top jaw, they have a gap between the lip and toothline on the lower jaw to accommodate this. It's even more extreme than in T. rex in most cases. That is the most retarded reasoning possible
>is also much narrower
Not even close, glowie. Stop being far-fetched excusing fag.
>Not even close, glowie.
you're saying the lower jaw is wider than the upper in his pictures?
>not even close
Are you blind or retarded? The picture is right there
this kills the schizo
>is that a modern lizard with a large difference in width between the upper and lower jaws? I'M GOING INSANE AHHHHH
Are you blind or retarded? The picture is right there
>T. rex couldn't have lips because it's top jaw is much wider than the bottom one
>picture posted showing Varanids have the same thing and have lips
>Not even close
What did he mean by this?
>deliberately posts unique crocodile monitor as an example for all varanids
>deliberately ignores its unique dental line angle
Ok, now I see. Maybe glowies are really stupid, one does not interfere with the other. But your main problem is that you are dishonest. Both with others and with yourselves.
Elon Musk told the truth that you hate everyone, yourself included.
>deliberately posts unique crocodile monitor as an example for all varanids
I can't tell if you mean unique in the length of the teeth or unique in the shape of the lower jaw but either way both are wrong. If you meant the width of the jaw literally every monitor in
has a thinner lower jaw than the upper jaw. If you meant the length of the teeth both tricolor monitors and lace monitors have comparable teeth that are only slightly less long. If you meant unique in the way the top jaw curves upwards that's irrelevant to whether or not it overhangs the bottom
>deliberately ignores its unique dental line angle
Can do the same comparison with V. panoptes which has the most baseline Varanid skull you can get and its the same result. picrel
You do realise that moving the line over 1 cm like that still leaves the gap for the top teeth right?
was just to show what I meant. I did it in 5 seconds on a track pad, either way the result is the same
>It's even more extreme than in T. rex in most cases.
Not really. Also, most of their teeth are barely visible since they're covered in gums. I don't know where you learned about a gap between the lip and toothline.
You can literally see in the picture that the difference in width between the front half of the lower jaw and the top jaw is more extreme in the monitors than in T. rex. I didn't mention the gums covering the teeth at all. The gap between the lip and toothline is very pronounced on monitors and is visible in any image of one yawning
>Absolute. Braindead. Dumb-ass. Glowie. Retard.
Here is the actual teeth line on the monitor lower jaw, and not what you marked, delusional moron.
(No, really, why are glowies like this? People can't be THAT dumb, arent they?)
That's literally what's highlighted in the pic you're replying to. Even if it weren't what you're showing still leaves the gap between the lower teeth and the lip so that the overhanging top teeth fit in the mouth, you literally just proved the point you tried to make in
wrong
The lumpy bits next to the red line you drew on the left are where the teeth are bro
Everything that can be said about glowies has already been said.
Then why do you continue to speak?
/herp/ here, this is correct.
If you look at the pic that I posted, the lizards have closed jaws but their teeth don't overhang. There isn't very much there for a gap to accommodate. Even in the most extreme example with the crocodile monitor,
the teeth still don't overhang like they do with the dinosaurs.
That said, I don't know if it means whether they had lips or not. I know there are some salamanders with theropod-like overbites (picrel) but the exposure of their teeth seems to vary from what I've seen.
The croc monitor isn't the most extreme example as far as overhang goes though, in Komodo dragons the teeth very much overhang the lower jaw
The version without the shitty photoshop on it to see it clearer
I mean...
T.rex was saber toothed
>n-no!
mad
>lipped theropods were the norm in paleoart from the start all the way up until the 80s/90s where a couple paleoartist's personal taste and a certain movie changed that
Methinks you don't actually care about the science
>retrograde view of dinosaurs as large bipedal lizards
Those days are long gone. Science, you know, does not stand still. It developed diligently until Reddit was invented and the information field plunged into idiocracy.
If they're not bipedal lizards anymore then why are you so upset by them being bird like?
Because the brain of a glowie is reduced by nature and is capable of "thinking" only in extremes. Dinosaurs were neither giant lizards nor toothy birds. Dinosaurs are typical archosaurs with all the consequences.
You are either a desperate autofellator, or glowies have a species problem with the perception (retardation in short).
>is capable of "thinking" only in extremes
Kinda like you with your stance on feathers and lips then
>problem with the perception
I don't get it, are you trying to say monitors don't have a lower jaw that's thinner than the upper jaw and don't have room between the lower teeth and lip to allow this? Because that's what it seems like
uhhh bro your allosaurus? it has lips?
Just as I've said - glowie "mind" is capable of "thinking" only in extremes. Or unable to think at all, as in this case:
What even remotely relates to an extreme in that?
>be gay OP
>make outrageous claim that theropods has no lips at all like crocodiles
>people call you out for you morony
>"well you see I was actually saying that theropods had reduced lips"
now jannies can clean up your useless threads
Actually, this whole chain of threads humiliating modern "paleoartists" (edgy illiterate redditors) began with the statement that:
>Jurassic Park version of T-Rexs is still the most realistic one
>ackshually i'm BTFOing the redditors by making the most reddit take possible
>LE DINOSAUR FROM A MOVIE I WATCHED WHEN I WAS A KID IS THE MOST REALISTIC ONE EVAR
>FEELS OVER REALS
No amount of meds can fix that, redditor.
>this whole chain of threads
I think the mods call that "spam"
why are dinofags like this???
Oh the sweet sweet irony
>can't have lips because thin lower jaw
Lol
Lmao even
Oh. So that's why the Apple show T Rex has a pear-shaped face and a Habsburg-style lower lip. This struck me as odd, as I well remembered that its skull was noticeably broader at the cheekbones and had an overbite. No, really, why are they doing this crap? They might as well paint it pink with blue hearts!
*LGBTQ+ sojaks':
>just like a real animal
in 3, 2, 1...
>why are they doing this crap?
Because komodo dragons have the exact same thing
They don't.
You're yet to explain how they don't. Again do you think the top jaw of a komodo dragon isn't wider than the lower jaw? Because it objectively is
Komodos don't have a pear shaped face. Some lizards and crocodilians do but it's positioned a bit further behind the jaw area around the throat. If that's what they tried to depict, they didn't do it properly. You should be able to see the structure from the side as well but you don't.
As for the habsburg lip thing, komodos don't have that either. Their lower jaw actually sticks out further than the upper one. There are lizards that do have an overbite but to a lesser extent than that pic of the t.rex.
>braindead glowie is braindead
Nothin' new.
A) They don't.
B) T-rex and comodo are from two fundamentally different sauropsida branches.
>They don't
Wonderful explanation, you've really got those glowies on the ropes there
>T-rex and comodo are from two fundamentally different sauropsida branches
Yet you still think theropods had crocodile faces? Sure they're both archosaurs but that's where the similarities end, they're in no way comparable ecologically in nearly all cases. Also it's Komodo
>Komodos don't have a pear shaped face
They kind of do, just not to that extent and it's harder to tell because they have less definition between the head and neck. Seems kind of weird but I guess it's still fine in regards to the T. rex
Wouldn’t that make sense for an animal with that much jaw muscle?
yes
OP doesn't care if something makes sense
He only cares if he likes the way it looks or not
No. The jaw muscles of the diapsids are attached through the cheekbone, right through the notorious two holes. Don't listen to illiterate Reddit queers:
.
>The jaw muscles of the diapsids are attached through the cheekbone, right through the notorious two holes
yes
and then through the outside of the jaw
making that pear shape jowl you complain about
Imagine being an unironical gay from Reddit and deliberately exposing yourself to ridicule, over and over again?
>deliberately exposing yourself to ridicule, over and over again?
oh wait, do you think those are ALL the jaw muscles?
kek what a fuckwad
That's assuming the soft tissue you're talking about on the pp rex is muscle though, not fat or whatever. I mean just look at tegus
Sue's skull is deformed
make a general dino fags and stop shitting up the board
evolution is theory btw
*Dino fag
His mind is legit broken. This thread pushed him over the edge and now he's reverted to spamming lemurs and the "trump won" pastas instead of posting shit about being mad about feathers. He's made what, 3? 4 simultaneous threads about this? making multiples of the same bait thread on a slow board when your bait doesn't work and then going into a meltdown phase is classic Wauf schizo behavior.
The real cancer is dogcrap. All those buttsniffers should be isolated in one general instead of making bajillion cancer threads about their pe(s)ts. Paleothreds are ok.
dogs are cute. maybe dinosaurs should be as cute as dogs?
Or as baby-Yoda (fucking sick hack Favreau).
wow these look like real animals
I must concur with the other anons conclusion. These depictions have a realistic character, showing that dinosaurs may have had features we aren't aware of that do not fossilize well, and also keeping in line with modern scientific discoveries such as theropod lips and the vestigial, deformed nature of their forelimbs. In short, it is a faithful attempt to create an example of what dinosaurs could have looked like if they were real.
Have you ever dealt with real chicks like chickens or goslings? Favreau mythical (CJI-ish) beasts behave like Pokemons, not real animals.
*excited basedjak pic*
Christ I hate D*sney.
weird how lemurfag and paleoschizo showed up within minutes of each other in the middle of the night.
I wonder if he got banned for a while.
glowsisters, now that we know this, we know how to win
a stinky pear male baryonyx wants you to scritch and sniff his feathers! delightful, smelly pear scent. determined to by phylogenetic bracketing, his descendant is actually the lemur!
You really should stop personalizing your inner demons, glowie sisterhood.
a fluffy tyrannosaurs, but this can not be? his hands make no sense until you realize it is so you can sniff his wrists and realize his lemurian progeny!
>STILL using phylogenetic bracketing on animals that are a million years dead
This guy is hopeless lmao.
the gay that keeps making these schizo dino threads is the best justification for bringing back institutions I've ever seen
he's not hurting anyone
if it really bugs you just report him for off topic or spam
OP you need to seek help. Go either get therapy or hide in your deviantart autism safe space
what if he's already getting help and this is as good as he gets?
I seriously doubt someone this crazy has escaped the attention of the medical and law enforcement crowd. If nothing else his parents had to have turned him over for treatment.
meds
>ANOTHER thread
stfu
oh no no no no crocodile bros how will we recover?
What are you trying to prove, don't-know-anything-about-philogeny retarded kid? I really don't get it.
Crocodile skulls have that too.
It appears the bone of that skull has shrunk, placing the teeth halfway out of the sockets exposing the cervix, cingulum, and placing the gumline halfway higher than it should be.
You should go join a discord server and be with like-minded individuals instead of posting here. What is even the point of arguing over what this dead animal's foreskin would look like in life?
Why did you make another thread to post red-herring misinterpreted bullshit when you were already BTFO, thoroughly, schizo?
The human pig hybrids are more believable than your entire position which relies on a falsehood (animals with lips do not have holes in their jaws!) and being racist against the chinese (who are all things considered, superior to you)
--->
I don't know! Why are schizophrenics so insistent on continuously denying reality and thinking everyone is a federal agent/alien/satanic pedo cult member?
Oh right because they're schizophrenic lmfao
You still didn't answer this:
In other news, OP is still a fag
>2 have lips covering all but two specialised teeth
>1 is lipless because its a crocodile
>Theropods have neither tusks nor are they crocodiles
28 hours later and, shockingly, OP is still a fag
Who do you think you're talking to? I didn't answer that because I wasn't there for you posting pictures of tusks. You can see the gumline, moron, and analogous structures exist in other diapsids. There is no need for supreme function in evolution. It just needs to be a neutral, beneficial, or not sufficiently disadvantageous presence to persist as a mutation. In terms you can understand, animals can suck or rock. All evidence points to theropods having lip-like structures despite having intermediate traits linking them to crocodiles. This is feasible. As is a feathered animal losing its feathers and regaining scales, or two separate feathered and non-feathered but otherwise closely related (with regards to skeletal structure) lineages existing. Get dunked.
Meanwhile, the real animal:
- No traces of feathers (just as from a phylogenetic point of view)
- Jaw bones are full of holes typical only for lipless animals
- The forelimbs are in a straight functional position (Wait... Is the right arm pronated? Oh, no, no, no...)
Once again - why are glowie "scientists" even allowed to publish anywhere?
Previous:
>mfw dinosaurs had floating legs
truly magical animals
Modern scientists are all trannies
Discord is for chud groomers
>Discord is for chud groomers
Great, you'd fit right in
Sorry Xir, I'm over 18
I'm sure you'll have a great time with the 12 year old dino fans on your server then
I'm an actual scientist (biotechnologist, currently working as hydrobiologist) and I'm neither trannie, nor glowie. Maybe because I'm European, tho. America is cursed and obscurant novadays.
>Meanwhile, the real animal:
>- No traces of feathers (just as from a phylogenetic point of view)
Uh oh! Sounds like some CHUD is not Trusting the Science!
Could you stop watering down the word "glowies", I rather like the term.
Where do the supinated arms meme comes from, I mean whats the scientific basis for it?
You're asking a retard who doesn't even know the fossil he posted was posed that way.
When one leftie moron somehow got to the fossils of Dilophosaurus, saw sedimentary artifacts and took them for "traces of knuckles" on which the Dilophosaurus "allegedly rested".
Actually this is a cast from a real Dilophosaurus skeleton from the excavation site.
>Actually this is a cast from a real Dilophosaurus skeleton from the excavation site.
lol
it's a cast of a cast of 3 different skeletons from the excavation site restored into one and then posed.
you're a fucking tard
>Actually this is a cast from a real Dilophosaurus skeleton from the excavation site.
you might also like to know that the hips in that fossil are actually Allosaurus, and the head was missing when that skeleton was found. That particular head was added in the 1960's by one of my former mentors.
>"traces of knuckles"
I've actually never heard of this. Are you sure you don't mean the "traces of feathers" that turned out to be plant remains?
Autism and fireworks. Happy 4th of July!
>They kind of do
They really don't. The lower jaw is true to the bones in being narrower than the upper. It's wider by percentage increase than the bones would indicate than the upper jaw, but that's about it.
I'm literally looking at my kitten right now. I'M LITERALLY GOING INSANE FROM THE BRAIN PARASITES!!! Help me! My cat made me gay!
Please go down the road, not across the street.
>We have wear marks proving some species had very shitty arms
What?
>The only arguments against this range from complete incompetence to just being racist against whoever found the fossil that's an inconvenient truth. Back in reality, if most theropods we know did not have feathers it is entirely likely that most theropods in another region of the planet had diverged and developed them.
You MIGHT almost have a point (but still wouldn't) if it weren't for the fact that literally ONE CHINK is responsible for nearly every single "feathered" dinosaur ever discovered and almost all of them are from his home country. What is more likely? That a single person's work might be wrong or fraudulent or that decades of intense paleontological work by dozens of paleontologists are all wrong? T. rex is the (scaly) canary in the coal mine. It never had feathers and bodywide scales are basically impossible to develop from feathers, regardless of that one shitty paper.
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want some help?
>The lower jaw is true to the bones in being narrower than the upper
By kind of do I meant the head widens towards the mouth and is thinner at the top like in the T. rex. As far as the jaws go with the flesh they're roughly the same width there. In the bones the lower fits completely within the upper on the left and right side.
This dino was a living skeleton with no feathers or skin for that matter and its left leg floated in air
Oh lord, do you think that's how the skeleton was found?
kek
that animal was restored and mounted in that pose by 1940's scientists. Almost nothing about that fossil is original. It's a combination of 3 different skeletons and about a ton of plaster.
you're a barrel of laughs,
Really? This is the hill you want to die on? I wouldn't recommend it. Remember how western paleopseuds are always trying to convince everyone they can't be tricked by chinks?
>Really? This is the hill you want to die on?
it's the hill you died on
>this schizo: CHINKS TRICK FAKE SOIENTESTS!
>Look at his "proof"
>someone in china found a pile of bones and people aren't 100% sure why the bones are all in one pile
Wow, you are a fucking retard. You can not read, you just see the word "China" somewhere and start frothing at the mouth.
Your country degenerates with gay pride. China remains strong and takes the lead in the sciences. Your hatred, is just jealousy.
>No traces of feathers
Correct
>Jaw bones are full of holes
This is just a general reptilian trait for reptiles without beaks. It doesn't tell you anything about the state of the lips. Both crocodilians and lizards have these.
>The forelimbs are in a straight functional position
Correct. The "Theropods can't pronate" is a meme started, as most of them in pseudopaleontology, by ONE paper, then everyone endlessly parroted it and drew the logical retarded conclusion and now everyone is drawing Theropod hands backwards - a physically impossible position.
I'm really starting to think most paleopseuds can't distinguish between taphonomy and true anatomy.
The chinese are frauds and subhumans; whatever you like is irrelevant.
I mean Wauf has been full of glowmorons forever so it's not even an illogical conclusion. And where actual glowgarden gnomes aren't present, bots are. Dead internet is real. Having said that, this chudsaurus bullshit has nothing to do with feds. OP is mistaken. It has to do with narcissism, and dog-eat-dog grasping by every STEMfag, willing to publish literally any nonsense dogshit the public stands even a remote chance of listening to.
actually OP does think dinosaurs had lips as seen here
his ESL tendencies just make it hard for him to communicate his thoughts properly.
You don't need another thread
dinofags should be given their own board. The amount of threads they make is excessive, especially since non-avian dinosaurs dont exist right now. I can understand the dog and cat threads since they live in huge abundance among humans, but dinosaurs?
*dogfags
As a dino/prehistory autist a /anp/ (animals and nature, prehistory) board would be cool
Agree. The wild tribes way of life fits more into the natural environment than into the historical civilizational process.