Is veganism the most arbitrary philosophy?

Is veganism the most arbitrary philosophy? Sponges aren't even sentient, yet apparently if you use one, you're not vegan.

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    they never said sentient they said animal and sea sponges are in the animal kingdom
    your view on sentience is the arbitrary nonsense
    im not even a vegan cause it's a moronic ideology, but this isnt why

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the entire vegan mindset revolves around them trying to seem superior to everyone else because themselves have nothing else to offer personality wise
    vegetarians at least arent afraid of consuming animal products

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that expensive shit crumbles easily and wont last even a month, plastic sponges are more durable but they are unholy icky plastic, luffas dont last any long either

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah. they're cultists though so while it's important to remind everyone that they're gay and moronic, and that being a vegan makes you a moronic homosexual, there is no sense trying to convince them their ideology is bad. Eventually their bodies make them cheat or the die of nutrient deficiency. Or sadly, they have children and stunt their growth and reproductive health by forcing them onto a vegan diet. But at the end of the day like gays they can only actually increase their numbers by converting stupid people so ultimately it's a pro-eugenic movement. Anyone stupid enough to fall for veganism should be removed from the gene pool.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Damn. Good point.

  5. 2 weeks ago
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  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I sea sponge I eat sponge. Simple as.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plants are living organisms, and they actively compete with other plants to stay alive and grow. Why is it okay to eat them?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a raid? What’s up with the vegan thread spam?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For real, there's been a shit ton of them lately

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It would be a pretty tame raid but no it’s just one autist I would wager

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    schizophrenia thread

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God demonstrated His love to us by sending His Son Jesus Christ, who died and rose from the dead to Give us eternal life. He also promised to heal your body. If you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead. He'll give you eternal life.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wen're you also supposed to eat his skin and drink his heart juice or something?

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sponges are animals. Vegans arbitrarily think that plants aren't alive, or are less alive than animals. But even the "plant vs animal" distinction is based on very old thinking, Christian in fact. Great Chain of Being. It colors a lot of our thinking about the natural world, namely how we divide life (although it's gotten a lot more complicated, it's more or less the same insofar as plants and animals are concerned) as well as the Earth's geologic history ("Age of Fish", "Age of Reptiles", "Age of Mammals"; these are all Great Chain of Being concepts that imply a progress towards complexity). What I'm trying to say that Veganism is more religion than anything else. Modern thinking has left it far behind, and its arguments now are centuries old.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that’s a cool image though

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does this picture imply that birds and fish are higher than mammals?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think it is a generality, but the order is usually based on Genesis. Fish were created at the same time as birds, after plants but before land animals. Again the idea is lower complexity -> higher complexity. You can find these themes in old paleoart as well.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what do you want to bet that the guy who kept shitposting about giving your pets bleach is the same person who keeps making these garbage vegan bait threads

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There’s nothing arbitrary about it. I’m not even vegan and I understand it clearly. Animals are animals.

      >t. triggered vegan

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        My brother, his c**t wife and weirdo daughter are vegans. He lost his shit at me when I pointed out the hypocrisy of not eating honey when almost literally no supermarket bought fruit or vegetables are vegan because all farmers use apiculture to standardise pollination.
        It's like milk-drinkers who are morally opposed to veal. They seem to think cows just make milk without getting pregnant and calving first (or that all calves get to grow up to roam free in green pastures or something).
        If you drink milk, congratulations: you support the veal industry.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it depends on why you are vegan
          if you're vegan for ethical reasons, as most are, there would be a handful of reasonable exceptions where there is no ethical dilemma despite being an animal product
          i would make an exception for sea sponges if they were used for anything, i don't think they are
          i'd consider mussels an exception too, no matter how much i'd err on the side of caution regarding what animals are capable of some form of suffering, i see no reason why it'd be beneficial for a sessile filter-feeder to have more cognition than a sorting algorithm
          bees are, in principle, free to leave if they don't like their living conditions
          i've heard beekeepers can clip the queen's wings to prevent that, i have no idea how prevalent or effective that practice is, i'd think the hive would just replace the queen and leave anyways if they really wanted to?
          so honey is a solid "maybe", and as said, unavoidable if you want to eat anything at all, though i will point out that if you do see honey as morally objectionable, you could at least try to make honey collection less profitable even if apiculture will still be used for pollination anyway

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sea sponges are used for a lot of things.

            https://nisiaco.com/blogs/news/11-incredible-uses-of-sea-sponges

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >farmers use apiculture to standardise pollination.
          That's a good point. Animals are going to be "used" somehow in plant production because we live in an ecosystem.
          Apparently some vegans and vegetarians don't eat pollinated figs because there's a dead wasp inside.
          I drink milk but not eat cows. I'm aware I'm drawing the line arbitrarily, but it's still probably better for the world than doing both.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It’s not though

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All taxonomy is objectively arbitrary. If you had a king of the hill-esque slideshow of the first organism all the way to (you), distinct species would be impossible to pinpoint.

          >milk-drinkers who are morally opposed to veal.
          Is that a thing?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The calves who allow cows to make milk aren't the calves becoming Veal, that's (for the MOST part) beef calves. Male dairy calves are usually castrated and allowed to grow for a bit before being butchered and becoming just low-grade beef. Veal is too expensive and time-consuming to waste on thinner dairy calves.
          Also, cows can milk for the rest of their milking lifetime after calving only once so long as you keep milking them. So, the milk industry doesn't support veal, at least not all that much. The beef industry does though and the two are very closely connected.
          But vegetarians who still consume animal products often aren't doing it for moral reasons, like vegans do, most veggies I know do it for purely health reasons or because they just dislike meat in general. Vegans are the ones imposing restrictions on themselves based on misinformation they've been fed, usually.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The calves who allow cows to make milk aren't the calves becoming Veal
            Wrong
            http://www.fsis.usda.gov/food-safety/safe-food-handling-and-preparation/meat-fish/veal-farm-table
            >that's (for the MOST part) beef calves
            Wrong.
            http://www.fsis.usda.gov/food-safety/safe-food-handling-and-preparation/meat-fish/veal-farm-table
            >Male dairy calves are usually castrated and allowed to grow for a bit before being butchered
            That's veal.
            https://www.jamieoliver.com/features/the-truth-about-veal/
            >cows can milk for the rest of their milking lifetime after calving only once so long as you keep milking them
            Inaccurate.
            The amount and quality of milk the produce drops precipitously after a year of giving birth.
            https://www.midwestdairy.com/farm-life/farm-life-faq/
            >the milk industry doesn't support veal
            Wrong.
            https://animalequality.org/blog/2019/08/14/dairy-industry-supports-veal-industry/
            >vegetarians who still consume animal products often aren't doing it for moral reasons
            Wrong
            https://www.statista.com/statistics/1062072/reasons-for-becoming-vegetarian-or-vegan-in-great-britain/
            And then you b***h about vegans being misinformed, holy shit.
            I'm gonna go drink some milk and go to bed now. Enjoy being wrong, I guess

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Based milk drunker make those bones nice and strong bro.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and he's going to keep doing it because rightoids fall for the bait every time and shit their pants over vegans

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        other way around moron, this is pretty much all vegans think about every waking moment of their lives, they’re the abnormality, not everyone else

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah you fricking Black person, this is another example of rightoids crying about literally anything on the internet and they fall for it every time. these are falseflag bait threads. actual vegans are not coming on here to start these threads. doesn't take a high IQ to see that.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >actual vegans are not coming on here to start these threads.
            No shit you fricking idiot, nowhere in my post did I say that, you claimed that “they shit their pants over vegans” when everyone with a shred of honesty and half a brain cell knows the opposite is true, you’re a special kind of schizophrenic to go around calling people Black folk and “rightoids” in the same post too, sounds like you’re pretty confused

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Is the
      >how much you want to bet posts about x are all one person
      poster just one person?

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >if you use one
    How? For cleaning or consumption?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/consumption

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