is there seriously no way to ethically purchase feeder rats?

is there seriously no way to ethically purchase feeder rats? the socially acceptable procedure is to stuff them in dark tiny bins with no stimulation and then gas them with co2, which is incredibly painful. i want a snake but cant get one in good conscience when i think about this

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Gas them with nitrogen instead: it is painless. Look it up.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >not building mouse utopia with a sinister secret in your basement
    ngmi

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i want a snake but cant get one in good conscience when i think about this
    Then use chicks instead

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    have a nice day and feed yourself to your reptile

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A helpful opinion, I know right where to put it.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The way I kill rabbits for food is probably the most ethical
    You just put your foot on the neck and then quickly put pressure and pull and the head pops off like it's nothing.
    I'm not into snakes though.
    Not really my thing. Seems like a waste of mammalian life and time to try and get enough chicks regularly or raise rats.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If CO2 is too painful and therefoe inhumane maybe just exitbag them instead?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Helium goes unnoticed but its expensive.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >gas them with co2
    >which is extremely painful
    is this true?? wouldn't they use inert gas like helium or nitrogen? pressing x to doubt

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >which is extremely painful
      UUUU

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I guess mice don't suffer from it like people? A guy on YouTube said he covered the tub so he doesn't see the struggling. Lab mice/rats exist because they're like humans. The CO2 must be torture. Getting eaten seems way better. Having your neck quickly broken by a herp shop employee seems best

      • 1 month ago
        Irish :D

        subtle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Inert gas euthanasia requires much more expensive safety training, insurance, and monitoring equipment than CO2. You can’t accidentally drown in CO2, unless you can’t escape a confined space, because if you breath a pure CO2 atmosphere it will trigger the vertebrate drowning reflex.

      is there seriously no way to ethically purchase feeder rats? the socially acceptable procedure is to stuff them in dark tiny bins with no stimulation and then gas them with co2, which is incredibly painful. i want a snake but cant get one in good conscience when i think about this

      It’s not actually painful, what it is is terrifying. Google “Helmet Horror” which is the same thing but for people.

      I buy live and break their necks myself, but not everyone is willing to do this, so I do understand the market for pre-killed and frozen.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why now just get a pet snake that does not eat mice? Just a quick Google and I found a few that can be fed on worms, insects, and fish

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just start your own rat homestead bro

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the garden gnome fears the indoor rat breeder

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Make a Wauf bioactive enclosure that's easier to manage than the breeding pits they're in.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Plenty of snakes eat minnows, frogs, worms, and snails.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    try getting a pet that isn't pussy repellent

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are roasties just incels that have sex?
      >i want a bf
      >no not like that one
      >ew
      >why are men so terrible
      incels are pretty feminine actually

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        women are retarded animals

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So are incels

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      isn't the point of this video that she was too picky?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao is this supposed to be ironic or something?
      Like c'mon one guy might be an asshole but if you have a problem with every guy then you're the asshole.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    look up egg-eating snakes or consider any other reptile

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you could breed your own rats and ensure they are raised ethically, but that would require you to care for lots of rats

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