>intelligent. >known to use tools. >one of the oldest species

>intelligent
>known to use tools
>one of the oldest species
I think if it wheren't for their short lifespan an the fact that they live underwater that octopusses could have developed a civilization and become the dominant species on the planet

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Truly high-intelligence invertebrates. Most likely on the level of the more intelligent non-human vertebrates. These animals are cursed by short lifespans, otherwise they would eventually build civilizations like humans did. If you guys haven't seen the documentary My Octopus Teacher (2020) you should. The guy catches some extraordinary octopus behavior on film.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are also R-selected, antisocial and most are cannibals to boot, so it's almost impossible they would ever develop a society as longas they retain those traits. By comparison, cuttlefish society would be far more likely.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its not so much for the underwater part, but for the part where they go into self terminate mode after procreating

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP you are a fucking disgrace and an idiot, go fuck yourself you retarded underage retard.

    You read a few pop-sci articles about how "smart" cephalopods supposedly are so you start thinking "gee wow they're basically people". You are an idiot. Cephalopods are vastly, vastly dumber than any "smart" vertebrate.

    Literally what the fuck is wrong with you? It's like you don't even have a basic understanding of animal evolution so you just see all these creatures and start thinking of them all as interchangeable things in some disney fantasy.
    >omg wow it looks like aliens I watched on TV because my IQ is 80 and I'm gay
    >omg wow they're smart aha also they look smart too so civilization time!!
    have a nice day immediately.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Brainlet

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        In the absence of substantiation you're just a loser and nothing you say matters. You have no place here. Your attempts to validate yourself in the absence of argumentation only show how worthless you are.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          underaged Black

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how do we uplift these fellas?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Give them a longer lifespan, make it so they dont die after spawning children, spawn less children, and make them social.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    They don't pass their knowledges to their offsprings and many of them died as soon as their eggs hatched

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This, the only thing truly stopping them is the lack of parent-child informational transfer.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        im pretty sure they do that with their dna already. otherwise they wouldt be so smart,

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >we still fish for and eat them anyways
    What are the moral implications of this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they don't live long and breeding kills them anyways
      I'm not too worried about it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They taste good. I’ve got one of them in my fridge.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      People don’t want to fuck them at least

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The implication is that they are delicious

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >evolved eyeballs, limbs, hearts, and brain matter independently from other animals
    they're the closest thing we have to aliens

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you mean that the convergent evolution with mammals means that they're the closest thing we have to reasonably intelligent aliens
      because many evolutionary lines developed those things ''independently'', including other mollusks

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nothing is preventing sea animals from developing a civilization

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Living in water discourage sedetary civilization and farming

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well humans were hunters gatherers for a long time before they started farming.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It took us like 100000 years. Octopuses have been around for hundreds of million years

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            can't they just take a bunch of rocks with their tentacles and make a little hut. Then grow some seaweed in front of the hut to eat

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes and when did civilization start?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Industrial revolution

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            when the brown peepo in the middle east started it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      All Tomorrows had a cool interpretation of that idea.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bro your fire? Your wheel? Your crops?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > can't build shit with flippers
      It's over, cetacean bros...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cosmetics and other man made pollutants are

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