>known to use tools
>one of the oldest species
I think if it wheren't for their short lifespan an the fact that they live underwater that octopusses could have developed a civilization and become the dominant species on the planet
>intelligent. >known to use tools. >one of the oldest species
Truly high-intelligence invertebrates. Most likely on the level of the more intelligent non-human vertebrates. These animals are cursed by short lifespans, otherwise they would eventually build civilizations like humans did. If you guys haven't seen the documentary My Octopus Teacher (2020) you should. The guy catches some extraordinary octopus behavior on film.
They are also R-selected, antisocial and most are cannibals to boot, so it's almost impossible they would ever develop a society as longas they retain those traits. By comparison, cuttlefish society would be far more likely.
its not so much for the underwater part, but for the part where they go into self terminate mode after procreating
OP you are a fucking disgrace and an idiot, go fuck yourself you retarded underage retard.
You read a few pop-sci articles about how "smart" cephalopods supposedly are so you start thinking "gee wow they're basically people". You are an idiot. Cephalopods are vastly, vastly dumber than any "smart" vertebrate.
Literally what the fuck is wrong with you? It's like you don't even have a basic understanding of animal evolution so you just see all these creatures and start thinking of them all as interchangeable things in some disney fantasy.
>omg wow it looks like aliens I watched on TV because my IQ is 80 and I'm gay
>omg wow they're smart aha also they look smart too so civilization time!!
have a nice day immediately.
In the absence of substantiation you're just a loser and nothing you say matters. You have no place here. Your attempts to validate yourself in the absence of argumentation only show how worthless you are.
how do we uplift these fellas?
Give them a longer lifespan, make it so they dont die after spawning children, spawn less children, and make them social.
They don't pass their knowledges to their offsprings and many of them died as soon as their eggs hatched
This, the only thing truly stopping them is the lack of parent-child informational transfer.
im pretty sure they do that with their dna already. otherwise they wouldt be so smart,
>we still fish for and eat them anyways
What are the moral implications of this?
they don't live long and breeding kills them anyways
I'm not too worried about it
They taste good. I’ve got one of them in my fridge.
People don’t want to fuck them at least
The implication is that they are delicious
>evolved eyeballs, limbs, hearts, and brain matter independently from other animals
they're the closest thing we have to aliens
you mean that the convergent evolution with mammals means that they're the closest thing we have to reasonably intelligent aliens
because many evolutionary lines developed those things ''independently'', including other mollusks
nothing is preventing sea animals from developing a civilization
Living in water discourage sedetary civilization and farming
well humans were hunters gatherers for a long time before they started farming.
It took us like 100000 years. Octopuses have been around for hundreds of million years
can't they just take a bunch of rocks with their tentacles and make a little hut. Then grow some seaweed in front of the hut to eat
Yes and when did civilization start?
when the brown peepo in the middle east started it
All Tomorrows had a cool interpretation of that idea.
Bro your fire? Your wheel? Your crops?
> can't build shit with flippers
It's over, cetacean bros...
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