In most animal species, the males compete for female attention, but in humans it seems like it's the opposite.
Women are the ones who dress flashy and bright and colorful to compete for male attention.
In most animal species, the males compete for female attention, but in humans it seems like it's the opposite.
Bats can't even compete with birds which is why they are nocturnal.
The fastest flying animals are birds, the largest and heaviest flying animals are birds. Birds can flying for longer distances, higher altitudes, and longer duration than any bat. Birds are also far more agile in the air than bats. Multiple bird species prey on bats, while only 1 or two bats have the ability to prey on birds.
In what way is this article's claim that bats "beat birds at their own game". When birds are infinitely more effective flying animals?
It's unfair because birds had a headstart
Except bats can't fly in cold climate because their surface to volume ratio is too big due to the living skin tissue that makes up their wings, making them lose too much heat to the environment.
Birds on the other hand have fairly small limbs, with most of the wing being comprised of dead tissue (feathers) which also insulate them
>Women are the ones who dress flashy and bright and colorful to compete for male attention.
That's not exactly true. The reproductive role women play is passive as men like to spread their seed, so they don't have to do much for male attention. Men are the ones that "dress flashy" ("look at how much money/status I have" because women are pickier.
MAMMAL SISTERS......
All those neurons used for absolutely nothing apparently. Truly they have evolved a way to think without thinking, a genuine biological computer, or else they would have done more than fly into windows by now. Evolutionary dead end.
>bird: MOAR NEURONS
>mammal: slow down... GOOD neurons.
>birds
>superior to mammals
literally incapable of re-evolving arms after throwing them away in pursuit of flight, they ain't shit but an evolutionary dead end.
Birds just keep on winning.
Untrue. I'm a man and I dress flashy and bright and colorful to compete for male attention.
it's not that different.
In most species the female attract the male passively with pheromones or other visual clues, and then the male does actions to reproduce with her, whether it's by trying to get her to choose him, or by beating other rival males.
In humans it's the same. Female humans have physical characteristics that attract the attention of the male humans, but then it's the male human who has to make the first move.
So the general norm is female attracts multiple males->males compete-> winning male reproduces
Winning can be being chosen by the female or beating all other males.
Of course that is just a general sequence. The specifics can vary wildly based in their reproductive habits.
There's a difference in animals where male and female mate and then go their own way. Animals where 1 male has a harem. Animals where multiple males and females coexist and are highly promiscuous.
For instance in birds that form long lasting pairs there's a period of time where both birds sort of flirt and dance with each other in order to check their compatibility.
Humans do something similar since they also form long lasting pairs.
birdfags seething lmao. This is what you get for hating on based cats, I hope your shitty flying lizards get killed
Literally seething and coping.
>know your place, trash
Your place, trash?
Birds are lame, and by retroactive association dinosaurs are dragged down and suck too. Bird bodies are horrendous. They're weak, porous, disease prone, you even so much as fart near them and they asphyxiate like a coal mine canary. Low tolerance for heavy metals, pollution, their constitution means they cant survive a famine of more than a week without dying of malnutrition. Their fragile little bodies get ripped apart by little more than weak high velocity pellets. This is a species that's arguably smarter than cats, but are still cat food, older than most mammals as a whole yet still fucking flies into windows.
And the only way they can kill anything is by surprise or by preying on the extremely young and weak. Mammals can fight prey stronger than them head on, but birds operate like school shooters. Without the element of surprise and a good weapon they're skin and (hollow) bones otherwise, and they can't survive without a means of escape.
There is no animal less admirable than the bird.
>Fly into windows
Even the "smart" ones do that. You'd think if they were actually smart they would have figured out that the holes in buildings are dangerous.
Bro birds hunt better animals by literally stabbing them in the back and then running away.
whats really fucked is the thing they're best at (flying) got done better by mammals anyway. at least some pterosaurs had arguably usable hands.
mammalchads stay winning.
>got done better by mammals anyway
Is this why bats exist mostly in shitty nocturnal niches?
Considering they're one of the largest orders of mammals then yeah, they are pretty successful
>adapt true flight in a quarter of the time it took reptiles to figure it out
>hunt incredibly evasive flying insects at night, and get some good at it that said insects change their mating strategies to avoid making sound
>doesn’t even matter because bats can still hear their wing beats even when stifled by fuzz, and exist in a unique world of sound we can’t even comprehend
>diversify to every continent, and every ecosystem except extreme deserts and tundra (because your prey doesn’t live there either)
>speciate more than fucking mice, absolutely insane amount of distinct species
>even have the time to diversify into a diurnal frugivore bigger than 99% of birds, that is so numerous that they blot out the sun when fruit becomes ripe
Bats are cool.
Birds are cool.
These things aren’t mutually exclusive.
Back in the coop cloacucks
>makes up even more shit
there’s a reason birdbrain is an insult and “parrot” is a derisive verb. they’re not intelligent in any meaningful way. and i say that as someone who had a parrot before selling that retard on craigslist.
It’s astonishing. You can cook a cockatiels eggs in front of it and it will gladly eat them.
Let me guess. You also earnestly believe in the nonsense over anthropomorphized spiel by Lovecraft about cats?
Birds will still be here when the lesser beings (mammals) are gone.
corvids will rule the earth
Look, I know you have a bird fetish, but you really are overrating their capabilities. Crows and the like can be very smart for birds, but are no where near the level of the great apes, elephants, or dolphins. They just lack the brain capacity for that same level of complex thought and will not achieve anything even in the absence of humans. They would be beaten again by the other apes and other mammals.
>great apes, elephants, or dolphins.
They're literally smarter than all of those combined, keep seething.
It's a universally known fact that birds are fucking retarded (birdbrain). The north sentinelese, the most remote tribe in the world, has hieroglyphs depicting birds being fucking idiots. Why does Disney have a stupid bird in a lot of their movies? Have you seen a bird? The morons run into glass. The absolute brain dead cunts can't even get out of a room properly. Imagine being so dense you not only miss out on avenging the dinosaurs as their last descendants, but you let yourself get damn near domesticated in cages by apes. Some say that crows are pretty smart. But that's because other birds are such hollow skulled, vapid creatures that they look smart by comparison; it's a pretty low bar.
And they will still just be birds while mammals have transcended the weakness of the flesh, and insects will dominate in reality. Birds are like bacteria before viruses. More organized but not more grand.
fr bruh fr
average mammal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTKJeQTwiK4
average b*rd (more like turd): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veI8BMDewmU
Cloacucks seething
Oh wait isn’t cuck named after a bird?
>god
why do mammaltards keep making up retarded shit
Coping mechanism
They literally can't stop doing it lmao
they really need to take their meds, the schizo levels are off the charts
why is it always iToddlers that make the worst posts
birds are worthless. god created them to be food for the chosen ones.
imagine having no sphincter
After filtering the word "soul" this board has become almost completely free of retarded schizo spam, interesting.
seethe brainless mammalcuck
Why are mammals such brainless retards?
birdbros we can't stop winning
Parrots just repeating phrases without comprehension
>about 5% of mammals are considered to be monogamous.
lmao. most bird species are more intelligent than all canines combined.
a computer is technically smarter than you but like a bird it has no comprehension of the world or itself and just processes data exactly like it’s supposed to. no matter how smart birds get they never improve themselves. they never deviate from being a bird. these things are so dumb that even african greys can imprint on the wrong species while a dog raised with humans is smart enough to realize it should fuck dogs instead of people.
Being able to form abstract connections is a sign of intelligence. An unfortunately large amount of humans imprint on cartoon animals, does that make them stupider than dogs who are just hardwired to get turned on by certain smells?
Mammals are not filthy dumb avian scum. We fight each other for attractive women, like MEN. Birds are literally the gayest animals and arthropods are either an egg sac or a sperm factory.
We fight because our females are fucking whores. A whopping 3 - 5% of all 4000 species of mammals are monogamous while the rest constantly have to fight to avoid being cucked. Meanwhile 90% of all birds stay together.
That’s mostly because mammals can think about their lives and birds have evolved past “consciousness” and just follow their programming. Peak efficiency but at what cost? That’s evolution for you. Birds are automatons. A monogamous mammal is truly accomplished.
>mammals
>monogamous
Anon, I have unfortunate news....
https://www.dogwoodalliance.org/2022/02/animals-that-mate-for-life-biodiversity-in-your-backyard/
When a mammal is monogamous it is because they are clever and noble. When a bird does it they just evolved to be unable to reconsider their situation. Mammals can be more than animals, but b*rds are always what they are regardless of the accuracy and speed of their problem solving circuits. You could say that we have souls, and they are merely more refined lizards.
That just sounds like cope to me. Like how people frequently have to cite cetaceans for intelligence to pad out the mammal category because they can't stand the idea of a non-mammal encroaching upon mammal intelligence.
Cope
Birds are clever machines that operate without understanding. They are the chinese rooms of intelligence.
What Searle and many others failed to consider (due to human arrogance) is the possibility that we are Chinese Rooms ourselves, with our brain executing an algorithm which no independent part understands. In fact, currently not even the whole understands. We have some limited introspective ability, but no human can explain their own thought process to minutia. Otherwise they could write down the steps as a program and execute a copy of their mind. We are actually meat based information processors which have a lot of complexity. We call this complexity "intelligence" or "sapience". There is nothing particularly special about it, except that our brains have the highest purposeful complexity of anything currently known. If we made a machine with a similar level of purposeful complexity, then it could be as inscrutable as a human mind and develop independent goals.
We can, but due to free will and the soul, even with full understanding of the human mind its output can not be predicted. The “program” has the ability to evaluate and change itself at will. This is something birds have lost or never fully developed because it’s inefficient and takes a lot more neurons than their metabolism and energy demanding lifestyle can spare, when it is much better to think correctly the first time every time without any synapses wasted on comprehension.
>Otherwise they could write down the steps as a program and execute a copy of their mind.
Yeah people that don't understand how the brain works often think this is possible.
it's not, but you'd have to ask a medical doctor or a biologist to learn that. To a physicist or a CS guy, everything is a computer.
They did consider that, the whole point of the Chinese Room argument is that if you are a human and are conscious, you can reasonably assume that every other human and some animals are conscious because our brains basically work the same. The problem with true AI that its shills always sweep under the rug is that it still hasn’t been proven that a computer can truly work the same way as a brain. Seale himself didn’t even say that AI was impossible, just that he would only buy it if some technology could truly replicate the structures and mechanisms of the brain.
>When a mammal is monogamous it is because they are clever and noble. When a bird does it they just evolved to be unable to reconsider their situation
And yet both pale in comparison to the monogamous reptile, the most pure and faithful creature
Your brain was designed by natural selection to crave binding with another, but also to bind poorly such that your relationships are self destructive. You're not special for fighting. Making you fight is part of the game our genetics "planned" for us, because long ago mammals got stuck on this method of fitness discovery. Having to go through a bunch of pain to get and keep something doesn't actually make the thing more valuable. That's just your sunk cost bias welling up to help you cope.
Your disparaging of avian monogamy is jealousy, plain and simple. It's okay though. I'm jealous too. We all are.
>birds
>fitness discovery
birds have gone down a rabbit hole and become the twinks and incels of nature by specializing to signal fitness to the opposite sex. they have had longer to advance than primates have had to exist. birds specializing in getting fucked, mammals specializing in not getting fucked over. more brutal competition drives more extreme advancement. and why would birds care? they fly away from everything. already said in the thread, eagles are 15lb incels that kill by stabbing 150lb chad in the back out of nowhere and then running off to where chad can't get them.
if your relationships self destruct then you must be supremely fit to stop that and achieve maximum gene spreading.
avian monogamy encourages weakness. mammals evolved to conquer their instincts to create better ones out of thin air. thus the mammal conquers and the bird merely exists. the bird runs monogamy.exe and is done there, the mammal fights against a machine and fitness is defined by winning. when mammals are gone birds will still exist, but mammals will not be gone. mammals will have transcended and exceeded the lowly avian even more and surpassed even reproduction. the mammal will be eternal, the bird will still just eat, fuck and fly. and the bird can not consider themselves at peace because they have no reason to have a concept for peace, it would be an inefficient operation to have existential thoughts as a highly optimized reproduction machine. only the mammal by knowing endless torment can appreciate endless peace, beyond the most peace achievable by biological life. birds are a dead end.
>eagles are 15lb incels that kill by stabbing 150lb chad in the back out of nowhere
>avian monogamy encourages weakness
lmfao the absolute seethe. Your whole post sounds like a teenager power fantasy where you can finally be the strong one like one of the heroes in your chinese cartoons. God damn. Try to stay at least a little bit tethered to reality.
nah thats birds. literally a supreme gentleman’s dream animal.
>he’s above brute strength and competition
>he wins by being graceful
>just like i should ;_;
literally the animal equivalent of a scrawny prettyboy incel going on a shooting spree and driving away really fast, dreaming of the day his waifu will love him forever just for being himself. birds are pathetic and any that aren’t vermin are doomed to go extinct. diurnal bats in the next million years lmao.
Except birds just achieve that dream every day because they have beautiful hen who will sit on egg and give wonderful allopreens every day for your mutual lives. Struggling doesn't make you better, so quit the cope. You're making it out like you're the chad for doing it, but chads don't struggle lol. Incels are the ones with a mein kampf complex.
Birds are just better. It's okay to admit it.
Birds are dumb animals forever. I eat them. As a human, not a chimp, not a coyote. At a height birds can not and will never achieve. I’m sure if we made them watch TV and take HBC pills their world would fall apart but they would never think why. Like an imprinted parrot they just keep executing the program until it crashes and dies.
>they have had longer to advance than primates have had to exist
the failure of birds in one sentence. good enough is the enemy of perfect. the mammalian model has higher growth potential in exchange for hardship. the bird settled on an easy solution.
A. It's mostly birds that do that. Male mammals fight and compete for mates all the time
B. Given the highly complex social structure of humans it can go both ways easily.