If you could choose one species to have human level intelligence which would you choose?

If you could choose one species to have human level intelligence which would you choose?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dolphins. They are already most of the way there so most likely to succeed.

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Snakes

    Eating bawds!!!

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wauf posters

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The mighty oak.
    Imagine a human intellect trapped in a tree. No mouth, no muscles, only the incessant nibbling of insect larvae inside your stem, and caterpillars munching on your leaves.
    There are humans passing you by, but you cannot sense them. You cannot communicate. You can only wait for the centuries to pass until you finally die from growing too large, or being cut down by your intellectual peers, forever ignorant of your sapience.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    If dogs became human-level intelligence normalgays would immediately try to get their hands on their new toys, and just like the roastie who bought a husky because she saw one on tiktok, their lives will become a living hell (but worse).
    They dogs would become incredibly evasive serial killers and could easily hop shelters while playing dumb and cute, and since they're not pibbles they'll be picked up even faster. Imagine if they figured out how to operate guns or frame evidence, that would be fun.
    Scientists have a horrible understanding of intelligence that boils down to "will he do x for treat?" so I don't expect this to do anywhere.
    >If you could choose one species to have human level intelligence which would you choose?
    Tapeworms.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Actually, NDErs say that all possible worlds exist in the multiverse. So every possible world with humans alongside another intelligent animal already exists out there. And NDEs are irrefutable proof of life after death, because anyone can have them if they come close to and survive death. And they are so undeniably real to those who have them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U00ibBGZp7o

    As this NDEr described their NDE:

    >"I saw how life never ends. I remembered the process of reincarnation is endless, wonderful and truly eternal. I witnessed my own spiritual evolution and saw that I had existed long before this present incarnation (where I am now a male human). For me, watching the process of living life, after life, after life unfold, was mind-blowing! I undeniably observed that I had lived an innumerable amount of lives. My NDE clearly showed me that these bodies (we now inhabit) are not the first and only time we have existed! I saw that our soul and spirit is ancient! I also observed that there is no such thing as death."

    And importantly, even dogmatic skeptics have this reaction, because the NDE convinces everyone:
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/mysteries-consciousness/202204/does-afterlife-obviously-exist

    So anyone would be convinced if they had an NDE, we already know this, no one's skepticism is unique. And the book in pic related is known to convince even hardened skeptics that there is an afterlife.

    >muh brain chemistry

    Neuroscientists are convinced by NDEs too. What do skeptics think they understand that neuroscientists do not?

    >muh DMT causes it

    Scientifically refuted already, and NDErs who have done DMT too say that the DMT experience, while alien and really cool and fun, was still underwhelming to the point of being a joke when compared to the NDE.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      changing my vote, i pick this schizo to ascend to human level intelligence

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      how are you on every board i visit

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cats. because they look cooler than dogs

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ur mom

  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dogs, and I'd want bipedalism and opposable thumbs.
    And also... longer lifespan, I think that's very important.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      idk what the leg structure is called, but it is not meant for only walking on them. joints would be shot after a couple years

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's called digitigrade, and you're right and wrong. Digitigrade bipedalism is absolutely possible (see birds and like half of every dinosaur species), but translating the existing anatomy of dogs to bipedal would be bad for them, yes.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isopods

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather select for overall health and longevity.
    Too many dogs have health issues that end up significantly limiting their lifespan and quality of life.
    Seeing dogs get to 20 without becoming arthritic piles of tumors with organ failure would be a dream.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >This idea also serves to challenge those perspectives of individuals such as Klaus Schwab et. al., who seek to reduce the population of the planet due to what they consider to be “dead weight” human beings with no capacity to produce anything of value

    I thought the article was supposed to be about dogs?
    What is this schizo rambling?

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Copepods

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bonobos.

    Unless the they're not actually as peaceful as popculture depicts them.

    Otherwise Gorillas.

    Maybe even Elephants but honestly the whole point I'm going with is we need something is far enough removed (or is inclined enough to be) from our most violent tendencies that it can serve as a second opinion that we can allow to make an impact on us.

    Otherwise I'm just gonna say foxes.

  15. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think octopi would be an interesting choice, they're pretty far along already. Would greater intellect help select for a longer lifespan?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      I genuinely think they'd already have a full language if pregnancy wasn't fatal. If an adult octopus could actively raise it's young, I think they'd have developed a real culture. They're moronic smart and have high manual dexterity, just like us. The only ingredient missing is tradition, the ability to iterate knowledge, not just genetics, between generations.

  16. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Squid

  17. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Human pubic lice.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Finally someone to talk to.

  18. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Betta splendens, I want the little frickers to suffer for destroying my life

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >it's the betta bowl guy

  19. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Heracleum mantegazzianum.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >when the furanocoumarins phytophotodermatitis

  20. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Exceedingly stupid paper that assumes that artificial selection alone can produce what the environment does not actually select for or allow. Intelligence is a word which hides a multifaceted mental infrastructure, all of which was dependent not just on "smart man breed, stupid man become incel", but also things like "primate hands originally intended for grabbing tree limbs turned out to be useful for grabbing rocks, and over time selection for tool use also become selection for hand-eye coordination and motor skill precision" and "vocal cords originally used to produce alarm noises over time were selected for producing signals during hunts, which selected for breath control, which selected for linguistic skills and so on". You can't just take a dog and make them intelligent just because you wanted to for X number of generations. If it worked like that, everything would have human level intelligence.

  21. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also where do I read the full article?
    Is it real?

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://doi.org/10.6084/m9.figshare.21201968.v1

  22. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dogs and wolves for sure.

  23. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

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