If you aren't vegan, you're a hypocrite.

If you aren't vegan, you're a hypocrite.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Theres no contradiction in using animals as food or emotional relief

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Carnivores got btfo.
    >About to eat meat and cheese
    K

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i simply dont believe anything is worth keeping around but pale humans and wolf like dogs and i would absolutely eat a golden retriever

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >weak
    >too soft to eat another animal

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >reading comprehension

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    if you dont feed your cats a vegan diet, you're a hypocrite

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you feed your cat a vegan diet, you're a criminal.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >wah my cat is le sick
        think about the animals it would be eating

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >you're a hypocrite.
    Yes. There's nothing wrong with that. I don't understand why so many people get triggered by that word. Just accept it. It's not a bad thing. I'd rather be a hypocrite than a vegan.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Vegans only exist because their carnivorous society's prosperity.
    You could be stuck in China as a sustenance farmer, and you would absolutely eat a fucking dog if that was your lot in life.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    On the contrary, I only like omnivorous animals.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > hypocrite
    That would imply that I pretend to care about the well being of all animals.
    I really don't.

    All I care about is caring for my pets and maybe preserving the ecosystem as much as we can.
    This is why I favor quality local meat to share with my dogs while the poor eats ground insects just like back in our ape days.
    I want meat to be a luxury again.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT: retards forgetting that animals eat crops

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Animals eat the bits of crops that humans dont.
      If no one ate animals the amount of crops needed to support the remaining humans would go up, not down, and there'd be nothing around to eat the shit bits humans dont want.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Silly ignorant child. They’d grind up the scraps and make us eat them. Probably use bugs for the binder. And remember: you WILL be happy

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Inb4 some retard says we feed cows corn

        Yes government subsidies make that cheaper than feeding them hay. It’s not the correct arrangement or a cow problem. It’s an americans eating too much beef and growing too much corn problem.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        75% of global soya production is used for animal feed, so is 50% of US corn production

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Because of subsidies and overproduction of meat. That doesnt mean stop eating meat, it means dont eat meat fed corn and onions and fuck communists and their subsidies.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >overproduction of meat
            What are you even talking about anymore

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              reality. commercialized agriculture grows too much fucking meat so the amount of animals being grown for harvest exceeds the amount of normal feed we would use otherwise (things not suitable for humans, land not suitable for agriculture).

              on average people eat 7-10x more meat than their bodies require.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >than their bodies require
                Very talmudic phrasing. “Excessive” meat consumption is healthy for brain, muscle, and bone growth. The only way you can eat “too much” meat is if you’re taking in more calories than you burn, but that’s not unique to meat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There is a point where your body stops processing it for nutrients and you just get fat (=estrogen production) and have greasy shits unless you down fiber pills. This is also the point where most people sit. It also heavily depends on which meat you're eating. You can consume far more fish than you can cow.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >eat 5000 calories in a day with no exercise
                >”this is the fault of meat”

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >The only way you can eat “too much” meat is if you’re taking in more calories than you burn
                How idiotic, did you just drop out of school? The way you eat too much of something is if it gets you sick and excess of meat will ruin your liver and kidneys.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What a dumbass kek
                I guess you never heard of mal de caribou, or rabbit starvation. It's when you eat too much meat and it can fucking kill you.
                Here's an ancient account of Roman soldiers fucking dying because they ended up eating too much meat
                >strange terror in the Roman camp. Their soldiers were sick from watching and want of sleep, and because of the unaccustomed food which the country afforded. They had no wine, no salt, no vinegar, no oil, but lived on wheat and barley, and quantities of venison and rabbits' flesh boiled without salt, which caused dysentery, from which many died.

                And for the record, I do in fact eat meat, but I eat more plants than meat on any given day.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You don't stop eating meat just to avoid killing le cute innocent animals, you also do it to reduce water waste.

    https://thehumaneleague.org.uk/article/factory-farming-water-usage
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317674538_Environmental_Effects_of_Intensive_Livestock_Farming#:~:text=These%20include%3A%201)%20water%20pollution,with%20consequences%20for%20human%20health%20(

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Waste is a non issue of scale. The real problem is too many humans. The earth can only really handle all the whites in europe before concessions are made - freedom, environmental destruction, etc. it’s time for man to admit that reproduction is not a right.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sure but go tell that to the thirld world countries too. The poorer they are, the more they reproduce.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          We have been able to solve that since at least the 1920
          Of course we could just… not give them food.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lul most livestock can live off natural rainfall and rivers. Crops use far more water. Plus, ever heard of the Water Cycle? Every drop you use ends up back in the Cycle and used again somewhere else.
      >b-but muh draining Lake Mead!!!
      It’s because California is siphoning off all the water west of the Rockies to keep their almonds and winegrapes alive in a bloody desert

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's the issue, I don't eat the animals I actually like.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >forgetting trillions of insects, birds, and small mammals are genocided yearly to protect crops
    Stop being a weak gay afraid of death.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      brainlet argument

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s okay to kill animals if I don’t personally find them cute
        Brilliant argument

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah it's okay since they are not valued
          That's why it's okay to abort downies

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >bees and crows have no value
            >wait, why the hell are plants no longer pollinated?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >forgetting that farm animals consume crops

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm vegetarian because I love food too much, I can't refrain from eating eggs and cheese.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you can love animals and eat them too. it's how i'm still on such good terms with your mother, OP.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    ok incel

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No my morals when it comes to eating animals is pretty consistent.
    >morally eating any animal is fine
    >the things that make it not okay to eat some animals are purely practical
    >for example i would not eat a cat because cats have not been farmed for their meat
    >therefore there is very little meat on cats ontop of the fact unless the cat is mine i do not know what medicine they're on/what poison they've ingested
    >and I don't want to eat my cat because the emotional toll isnt worth the very little meat
    >This logic can be extended to dogs too.

    Fuck you ARAs. My logic is tight and sound.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How many generations of selective breeding would you need to be comfortable with eating "domesticated" humans?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bump

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Idk. Enough to make them more animal-like than human like.
        How many generations did your family go through to make you a mindless trend-follower? Your ancestors would be ashamed.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Enough to make it so I don't get fucking prion diseases. Cannibalism is more than just morally wrong.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Threads like these were unironically a big part of why I went vegan because the meat-eater cope is actually laughable and I was embarrassed to be on their side
    Don't think I've ever heard a logically sound argument from that side

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Wauf made me vegan
      Dangerously based and redpilled. Also checked.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are microscopic animals in this glass of water. Therefore, a vegan who drinks it is a hypocrite. It seems that deontological veganism is impossible.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      HuRr DuRr "you're trying to get fit but yesterday you chilled on sofa with chips instead of working out". Not being perfect != being a hypocrite, get a better dictionary.

      Also animals incapable of thinking are not generally a concern for vegans (so single cellular "animals", mushrooms etc are ok).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        by the same metric something for which consciousness has not been definitively proven suffers so too does a plant and a protozoa.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Also animals incapable of thinking are not generally a concern for vegans
        oysters?

        by the same metric something for which consciousness has not been definitively proven suffers so too does a plant and a protozoa.

        there's no compelling evidence that things without a brain can suffer

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >HuRr DuRr
        go back

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >If you aren't vegan, you're a hypocrite.
    true
    also, if you ARE vegan you're a hypocrite

    you're a hypocrite either way.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      virtually everyone is de facto a hypocrite, but being a hypocrite isn't tautologically the case
      even then, some hypocrisies are more hypocritical than others

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >some hypocrisies are more hypocritical than others
        how do you even measure that?

        the number of hypocritical behaviors?
        the temporal distribution of hypocritical behaviors?
        the extent to which the hypocritical behavior deviates from a stated value?
        the extent to which the stated value has an emotional affect on you?
        some combination of these or other criteria?

        just curious how morons make judgements.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you can compare some forms of hypocrisy with each other, hence my original wording of "some"
          I agree that in general "degree of hypocrisy" is undefined

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >you can compare some forms of hypocrisy with each other,
            how so?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              one is in the case when it's clear that the object of the value judgment is numerical. that may still allow for disagreement, but if the value judgment encapsulates comparability of hypocrisy, it follows that instances are comparable (both sides agree to the sense)

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    When you were in your mothers womb, you basically ate her to grow, in a sense, then she fed you her milk when you were born. This is completely natural. But somehow eating chicken eggs and drinking milk is bad in your mind.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Serious response this time: it's a popular misconception that veganism is about diet (like vegetarianism). So feeding on your mom, mother's milk, big tiddy goth gf's milk, eating a roadkill straight from the street, killing a shitbull in self-defense and slurping it's brain, grilling family pet that died of old age for barbeque are all technically vegan. Not very appealing but vegan.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >it's a popular misconception that veganism is about diet
        okay then what is it about?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Manufacturing a sense of superiority when you have absolutely nothing else going for you.

          Like wearing a fedora, carrying a revolver, or studying archaic japanese swordplay instead of fencing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          See also

          HuRr DuRr "you're trying to get fit but yesterday you chilled on sofa with chips instead of working out". Not being perfect != being a hypocrite, get a better dictionary.

          Also animals incapable of thinking are not generally a concern for vegans (so single cellular "animals", mushrooms etc are ok).

          Generally a philosophy or whatever, with a goal of not hurting other conscious beings. If I had my own farm I probably wouldn't care, but in reality factory farming relatively smart mammals (cows/pigs) is a pretty shitty industry.

          Also it's consisten (literally this thread) - crying about muh dogeaters while eating other mammals is hypocrisy. But I'm unironically ok with other consistent worldviews like

          How so? I simply don't believe anything that doesn't eat meat (synapsid flesh) doesn't have a soul, and is therefore the moral equivalent to an object.

          This includes "human" vegans. We should be allowed to eat free range, humanely harvested vegan.

          I'm vegan except I eat cats. cats are delicious and since people let them outside you can just grab and eat them. it's free food.

          (lol tho)

          And obviously utility wins so the real correct answer is

          Cost-benefit analysis may say otherwise. Deontologists are hypocrites though.

          Manufacturing a sense of superiority when you have absolutely nothing else going for you.

          Like wearing a fedora, carrying a revolver, or studying archaic japanese swordplay instead of fencing.

          Victim complex.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >And obviously utility wins
            Do most vegans really think in terms of utility? Why not just call yourself a utilitarian then?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Victim complex.
            yeah, that too

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >other conscious beings
            That's the thing. Herbivores aren't conscious beings. An active divine spark AKA soul is the soul source of consciousness and it can only be ignited by consuming complex life.

            Something must eat a body to gain a soul.

            Threads like these were unironically a big part of why I went vegan because the meat-eater cope is actually laughable and I was embarrassed to be on their side
            Don't think I've ever heard a logically sound argument from that side

            I don't think I've heard a logically sound argument for why ANYTHING except the arguer is conscious or capable of suffering from anyone who does not believe in some kind of a soul. Ever. It's not possible to prove unless you have a full understanding of how "real" consciousness arises in the brain.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              basically they dont know or care what the truth is. all they know is that they feel bad when they imagine something with two eyes, a mouth, and expressions or vocalizations they can correctly or incorrectly ascribe emotions that may or may not exists to being "hurt".

              that's all veganism is. projecting your humanity onto something. however it most likely lacks it, and you can't even prove other humans are human, you just assume they are because they are biologically and behaviorally so much like yourself.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you just assume they are because they are biologically and behaviorally so much like yourself.
                why is that a bad assumption?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >It's not possible to prove unless you have a full understanding of how "real" consciousness arises in the brain.
              Do you have to prove it, or just be confident enough for it to factor into your considerations?
              If I believe there's a 50% chance that you're conscious, I would still avoid trying to hurt you in case you are actually conscious. I don't need to be 100% sure.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Being more than 0% sure anything but another human is conscious is idiocy unless you believe in hindu spirituality as fact

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                okay but you said
                >why ANYTHING except the arguer
                are you going back on that now and saying you can be more than 0% sure that at least other humans are conscious?
                just making sure before I continue

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              this is some next level schizo shit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                schizo shit is just religion that doesn't have enough people agreeing with it tbh

                >forgetting that farm animals consume crops

                they do not have to. that's an artifact of capitalism and government meddling. we are at a point where it is cheaper to buy corn and onions because the meat is still profitable, and there's not enough chaff and grass to fulfill massive consumer demand because of all the people who eat 1/3lb of beef for each meal.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've had vegans rant at me for eating eggs from my own chickens. They're beloved pets who I care for across their whole life and really just keep because I like them, but somehow eating the eggs they make is immoral.
        Veganism may have started as a philosophy but almost everyone now thinks it's Veg+ Extra Smug Edition.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You're going to regret getting attached to them once one of your "beloved pets" gets its neck snapped by a bird of prey, or the neighbor's dog, or the friendly local raccoon disembowels it, or literally any predatory animal nearby kills it, because you know literally anything will kill and eat a chicken.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I've had a few dozen chickens over 20 years, son. I'm no stranger to loss. I just don't let it harden me.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >like guns, tanks, airplane, shooter videogames
    >isn't pro war in Ukraina
    Hyprocrites.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Always enjoy the mental gymnastics that these threads produce
    >uhhh actually bro, there's a very deep and spiritual reason why i have to eat my chicken nuggies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there are many unironic schizos on this board

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        True, but I think most people who say that stuff aren't spiritual at all in any other aspect of life and just use it as a cope for why eating meat is ok

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine having complete dominon over a planet that is powered by destroying others and you go completely against this circle of life and just eat plants like the lowest level of animals on the planet meanwhile the most powerful eat meat. Meat is for the Gods. Veggies for the peasants. This earth WANTS you to eat meat and by rejecting her gifts you spit in the face if mother nature. Eating meat keeps me way cleaner and lean and full feeling than stuffing my face with plants covered in poison and getting hungry an hour later. Meat is the only thing left we have to eat that is clean. Reminder God cursed an entire family of vegans and praised to meat eaters. Fat Grill daddies who eat meat are closer to divinity the most powerful vegan.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm ok being a hypocrite then.

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How so? I simply don't believe anything that doesn't eat meat (synapsid flesh) doesn't have a soul, and is therefore the moral equivalent to an object.

    This includes "human" vegans. We should be allowed to eat free range, humanely harvested vegan.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the single most based thing i have read all week

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm vegan except I eat cats. cats are delicious and since people let them outside you can just grab and eat them. it's free food.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hows the CCP treating you, chang?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Pathetic larp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Embarrassing

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I eat prey animals. I associate with predator animals. Simple as.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >My favorite animals are purely carnivores
    >But imma hypocrite for occasionally eating meat.

    Also, vegans are the new Bible thumpers

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I literally just don't value non human life morally
    They look cool tho

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm a Hippoclit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a hippogryph

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    low effort troll thread

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cost-benefit analysis may say otherwise. Deontologists are hypocrites though.

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