Look, I know you have a bird fetish, but you really are overrating their capabilities. Crows can be pretty clever, but that's because other birds are such hollow skulled, vapid creatures that they look smart by comparison; it's a pretty low bar.
>inb4 muh corvids
Corvids are smart in some aspects, they have decent memory and some problem solving ability, but that's about it, they don't hold a candle to social animals like rats, chimps, whales, dolphins, elephants, horses and dogs. All mammals by the way.
Human brains take a huge amount of energy to develop, so biologically speaking, if you want a smart animal the parent has to devote a lot of energy and resources to it. By far the best way to do this is with milk, you don't have to worry about finding food the right size or the right type and you don't have to worry about times when you cant find food because your body will use your own fat stores to feed the baby. It contains all the right nutrients, digestive enzymes, hormones and antibodies to keep your child healthy, look it up, it is the evolutionarily superior option. An egg layer will never have this and never compete with mammals.
With the crop, which they use to store and mash up food for their chicks they can regurgitate the cell lining to feed them, but it's still nowhere near as good as producing milk like a mammal.
It works just as well and the young are on their own in weeks. Regurgitation also works great. Birds min maxed weight and developed dramatically more efficient respiratory, renal, reproductive and even neurological systems. Their eyes, superior. Their ears, superior. Their vocalizations, superior. You think you're clowning on birds for laying eggs when it's entirely purposeful because weight kills. Weight is inertia, and they live by the millisecond. Not fearing mammals, but other birds.
Humans are more connected to birds than anything else in the wild world. We hear and see them constantly because they aren't afraid to be in our presence. We write poetry and song in their name and spirit. They are to us, freedom and grace, pride, strength, and cleverness. The only animals which compare are domestic dogs and horses, which are loyalty and service respectively and need no defense. In all the wild world though, it's birds humans desire. A wood without birdsong is foreboding, but with is relaxing and inviting. We put up tens of thousands of feeders for no other reason than to see them land and spend a fleeting moment in our presence.
Humans love birds, and have always envied them. Birds are amazing, and you are some kind of broken, bitter person for not understanding that.
You keep refusing to acknowledge the point and want to talk about eagles attacking small dogs. Do you think that’s a discussion, schizo? Or are you trying to troll whichever boogeyman you think is here with you right now?
Mammals have higher evolutionary potential due to not leaving our undeveloped young out as free lunch and paternal genetic imprinting creating more possibilities for novel mutations. This is why birds are sky vermin, and the dominant complex species on earth are mammals, and so is the only one with even a slight chance of winning the eternal arms race and BTFOing life tiself.
Entirely because they have to cope with egg laying, and for no other reason, birds will never be anything but mere birds, automata that keep getting more and more refined for their mortal niche. All because egg laying is so gimped, they needed flight to keep their children from being eaten before they were born.
Ovivorous bats will be the end of them. Even rats can wipe out an entire bird species because they didn't build their nests up high enough.
Yeah, bats, who are are also permanently stuck to simply being the flying troglodytes of the night, again, save for the few species of giant hodor-retard-ass bats who eat fruits like queers, are TOTALLY going to steal the vast majority of niches that birds occupy
K E K !
The only reason birds even exist is they either live somewhere where an egg eating predator hasn't landed yet or they hide on top of a tree like an incel. And even the latter ones get heemed hard by a fucking housecat, and sometimes rats (they can climb a bit you know). Fuck, even dogs bred specifically not to kill things like labs and herding dogs will wipe out ground nesting bird populations. Not by hunting the adults, but because it's so easy to end an entire generation before it's even born.
Oviparity is an evolutionary handicap. it restricts which niches an animal can occupy. It restricts how well it can deal with competition. It restricts how readily they can move to a new niche. And in the case of flying animals, it totally cuts off any chance they had at equaling man. The average oviparous animal is extremely primitive and lucky the world is so large it can coexist with more advanced life (the least fragile ones cope by laying dozens of eggs and guarding them 24/7 because of their based slow metabolisms. taking notes, bird boys?).
>the hide in the trees like an incel
So do bats? Except that they're even worse, considering that they hide in literal CAVES? A bird at least gets sun.
predatory birds mog everything in their weight range, if even slightly above. Bats are a dead end, cats can barely catch sickly sparrows and get destroyed by goshawks and rats are snacks for kestrels
Birds have been here unchanged for over 100 million years and they are everywhere from cities to antarctica. Not that much of a handicap clearly when they are, despite being ancient and lay eggs extremely successful and adaptable
>Unchanged
Exactly. because they've hit a wall and can't change much. >everywhere
There isn't something able to eat their eggs. As soon as a mammal exists to eat those eggs, the birds disappear.
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2 more millenia
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more like 20 years at this pace
50% of bird species in australia already heemed by mammalchads
>laying eggs is a handicap >retard: actually muh animal could kick this small canid's ass!
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>raptors are more than capable of competing with small-to-medium sized mammalian carnivores >W-well they're incels so it doesn't matter!!! >so are bats >b-b-buh that's baste because they live with bears!! >you're coping >STAHP TALKING ABOUT ANIMUL FITES!1!1!1
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And did I not originally say that egg laying was a handicap, not that it's impossible for a mammal to be smaller? Birds are still incels btw.
You wanted to start an animal fight argument instead so you could get BTFO twice. That was your decision. >durr well a bird could kill a dog
Humans (mammals) can kill entire species of birds. So can rats. Lol. And what does it matter for the bird? They do it with dishonor so they get 0 respect.
you do realize that dinosaurs were laying eggs for at least a hundred million years while mammals we're small rat-things that gave live birth, right? By your imbecile logic, the dinosaurs would have been dead FAR before the meteor even hit the Earth.
Not dead, just permanently gimped in evolutionary development as soon as something figured out how to eat their eggs.
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Yes, said canid having zero adaptions to climb a tree, retard.
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you do realize that dinosaurs were laying eggs for at least a hundred million years while mammals we're small rat-things that gave live birth, right? By your imbecile logic, the dinosaurs would have been dead FAR before the meteor even hit the Earth.
What weird cope, to be talking about mammals, but bring up cage fights and birds attacking small canids, when the topic is actually how birds are permanently third rate at best and have no evolutionary potential because the weaknesses of egg laying required them to hyperspecialize towards flight, and how egg laying is a primitive and flawed strategy that limits the evolutionary potential of a species.
>12 species of canid are known to have been hunted by golden eagles and they collectively make up about 2.8% of the diet from all surveyed golden eagle nests. For the most part, foxes are the preferred prey. In a nest in Mongolia, Corsac fox (Vulpes corsac) were surprisingly the main prey species, making up 38% of sampled remains. Kit fox (Vulpes macrotis), swift fox (Vulpes velox), gray fox (Urocyon cinereoargenteus) and island fox (Urocyon littoralis) are readily predated in North America. Red foxes make up 13.5% of nest remains in Sicily and 5.9% in the Republic of Macedonia. Among red foxes, juveniles are usually targeted as prey, though golden eagles can kill foxes of any age or condition, including adult male red foxes heavier than the eagles themselves. Occasionally, even coyotes, including healthy adult males, can be successfully killed by golden eagles.
You tried to branch off into a carnivora.net tier animal fight argument but forgot that honor is as important as victory. So it's a red herring you still lost.
The original topic was and still is how egg laying resulted in birds permanently losing any and all evolutionary potential because it's a shitty reproductive strategy. They will always be pesky vermin and prey. Mid-tier predators at best, but better suited for eating fish and other vermin. Egg laying is so gimped that birds have failed to displace bats because something would just eat their eggs if they tried to edge further into that niche. The T. rex days aren't coming back, because if they try, something will just eat their eggs.
>honor is as important as victory
Honor is human loser cope and seethe. Victory has been all that mattered for hundreds of millions of years, even among humanity. After killing your enemies, nobody can accuse you of dishonor. The writers of history are always the victors.
>"b-b-birds are incels!!!!" >"but b-bats (who literally exclusively hunt at night save for a few of the larger retard species who eat fruit like gays, only going after puny insects for hours on end mind you) are SOOOOO HECKIN BASED THO!!!!1!!!111!!!"
KEK! You can't make this cope up!
>A Nile monitor lizard has produced an offspring without ever performing sexual intercourse or coming in contact with male monitor. >A few years earlier, at Louisville Zoo, a reticulated python named Thelma—who had never even seen a male python—laid six eggs that developed into healthy young snakes. And in 2006, at England’s Chester Zoo, a Komodo dragon named Flora achieved a similar feat
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Bats can't fly for shit, they're terrible at it. And cats are terrible at hunting rats but a barn owl can easily catch over 10 in a single night.
>Bats are terrible at flying
This is false lol >Cats are terrible at hunting rats
That's because their preferred prey are flying animals and the smaller, dumber mice.
https://i.imgur.com/TbyirwL.jpg
Oh of course, it was impossible to be a successful large egg layer and that's why alligators went extinct millions of years ago
>A typical alligator nest may have anywhere between 30 to 70 eggs incubating, but only about two to 14 will survive. >has to bury and ferociously guard 30 to 70 eggs just to have a few successful offspring
Oviparity is a handicap.
bats are more efficient and agile than birds
https://www.skedaddlewildlife.com/location/pickering/blog/bats-efficient-flyers-than-birds/
>animal with less efficient respiratory system evolves more efficient locomotion
big fucking surprise. they also aren't an evolutionary dead end and can, and always will be able to, re-evolve hands. meanwhile birds have this shit. what are they going to do, evolve a claw? crab birds? turn their wings into legs and have arms dangling under them? biped shoulders are ill suited to suspend an animal like that so they would have to flip upside down entirely. limbs lost are unlikely to return.
>be bird >evolve to equal man with hands and everything >your anus is on top of your body and your head is on the bottom >no bowel control btw
Bats can't even compete with birds which is why they are nocturnal.
The fastest flying animals are birds, the largest and heaviest flying animals are birds. Birds can flying for longer distances, higher altitudes, and longer duration than any bat. Birds are also far more agile in the air than bats. Multiple bird species prey on bats, while only 1 or two bats have the ability to prey on birds.
Birds are infinitely more effective flying animals.
>Animal fills available niche after birds already exist >IT CANT COMPETE
It's more like birds can't compete because they can't expand into bats niche. All they can do is eat the tiny bats, while diurnal bats (yes, they exist) are peaceful fruit eaters. Mammals win again, even as incel animals that try and stay away from hand-having groundchads.
Yet alligators are wildly successful despite changing very little over geologic time scales. Handicap, hm.
Yeah, handicap. Laying 70 eggs to have 2 children. They haven't changed because they can't leave their niche with that going on. They tried to a long, long time ago, but it was a failed diversifcation. They are forever the booby trap of the water.
tbh after rats and cats do the needful its very likely that bats will diversify to fill the empty niche since nothing else can, and once they're there, birds won't be coming back since ovivorous bats are next on the to-do list, assuming rodents and increasingly tree-climbing felines don't keep the eggfags away.
Right of course, and as we know there are no other large egg laying animals which have diversity outside exactly how alligators work.
>Oviparous animal is primitive >40 egg clutches
Surprise. Fish are oviparous too i guess they're great? The only way to lay eggs and be successful is to be primitive and lay a shitton or be a weak skycel and hide on top of a tree. It's a hard cap on evolutionary potential.
>primitive food tube kills animal selected for docility
A bug killed a human omg egg laying is so superior! Is being alive inferior to being a virus too?
Mammal hating bird schizo always, always, ALWAYS resorts to gore.
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What a weird cope.
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Anonymous
>Mammal hating bird schizo always, always, ALWAYS resorts to gore.
Youre the only one whos been talking killing animals this entire thread, you psycho freak.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Whos been talking killing animals this entire thread, cheif?
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Anonymous
>Mammal hating bird schizo always, always, ALWAYS resorts to gore.
This is the first time I've had this kind of converation. Do you keep claiming that mammals btfo birds or something? Because anyone can just google "bird fighting dog" and prove you wrong. Yes, the pictures will be of eagles and such killing and eating foxes, wolves, etc, because that's what actually happens in reality. It's not like one person is going out to fabricate search engine results which go against what you think. It's different anons finding the same evidence because it's the real truth. You do understand, when something has evidence, different people can discover the same evidence and come to the same conclusion. You do understand that being wrong isn't an indication that someone is out to get you, right?
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>Incel animal uses surprise attacks to kill superior being
And most of those results are mongolians setting eagles on chained wolves. Yikes.
Yet another reminder mammals kicked theropods off the top of the food chain and their school shooter tier antics will never get that spot back
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Again, what a weird cope.
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Anonymous
What weird cope, to be talking about mammals, but bring up cage fights and birds attacking small canids, when the topic is actually how birds are permanently third rate at best and have no evolutionary potential because the weaknesses of egg laying required them to hyperspecialize towards flight, and how egg laying is a primitive and flawed strategy that limits the evolutionary potential of a species.
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>Anyone can just google "human dies to sickness" or "bird dies to sickness"
mitosis and simple viral replication confirmed for superior to sexual reproduction
complex life btfo
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Anonymous
Yes actually.
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Anonymous
insufficiently complex life without the potential to ascend to synthetic life is worse than bacteria yes
simple life will exist and adapt as long as it can metabolize something, but a creature like a bird is kind of fucked if the environment changes too drastically and will never evolve the ability to abandon biology
>washing eggs
This is why Americans are scared of raw eggs. "Washing" them damages their shell, which makes the inside more likely to spoil. It is completely sufficient to brush off the eggs. This way the egg shell stays intact and you don't even need to put the eggs in the fridge.
It's peak efficiency and works fine. Split genitalia was a hack mammals came up with to solve health issues created by the retarded move to viviparity.
>the retarded move to viviparity
Mammals dominated the planet and everything that lays eggs devolved into lowly vermin or giant vermin because of that "retarded" move.
>nooo ur dick might get a booboo
Yeah but your eggs are delicious.
inb4 birdfag seethe and gore spam
In the end it doesn't just even out, it works out in mammals favor, which is why archosaurs had to almost entirely leave the land and cope with being the equivalent of giant flying bugs that hide in trees.
Birds devolved from the chads of nature to the school shooters of nature tbh >Theropods then: Giant musclebound killing machines that can run down and slaughter gigafauna (GIGA, as in chad) >Theropods now: Various flavors of chicken, rely on surprise attacks and staying out of reach like a mentally disturbed teenager shooting children from 50 feet away
they even tried to re-evolve into the chads of nature, but they failed when mammals countered with their own murderous biped, all because they laid eggs and egg laying necessitates cowardice as soon as the top spot is contested by something that doesn't have totally immobile young basically wrapped up for easier consumption.
Mammals don't owe any success to viviparity or divided genitalia, and birds remain the juggernaut of the 0-10kg weight class. Also flying is cooler than anything mammals do.
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Viviparity and the necessary divided genitalia are the entire reason theropods got kicked off the top of the food chain and resorted to hiding as far up as possible. The smallest mammalian "predator" (pic related, a bigger ecological terrorist than cats) is enough to wipe out entire bird populations if they don't. Egg laying is a primitive and retarded strategy. >and flying is-
Bats are more successful than birds, and more efficient.
Go job to a household pest birdschizo.
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Oh of course, it was impossible to be a successful large egg layer and that's why alligators went extinct millions of years ago
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They can, and it's an intense experience for them. Afterwards they flutter their wings and cluck a bunch while strutting around energetically. It's pretty cute.
It's called cloacal kiss, you uncultured swine, and it's very sensual. Hens can achieve an orgasm too.
they get to take the most amazing craps all the time. if anything they're probably stressed about the circumference they have to deal with on a daily basis.
Birds don't really have sexual pleasure. They just get so horny they coom into each other. It's very mentally ill of them, so they can be gay as it's pretty much the same thing.
>me no like it? IT REDDIT!1!
Very profound and original answer. As always, I stopped seeing Reddit everywhere when I got off of it, you should try it too.
It's called cloacal kiss, you uncultured swine, and it's very sensual. Hens can achieve an orgasm too.
They can, and it's an intense experience for them. Afterwards they flutter their wings and cluck a bunch while strutting around energetically. It's pretty cute.
>actually thinking theres only one person btfoing him itt
meds. now.
>hes literally talking to himself now
absolute schizo. also corvids are smarter than all of those combined.
Look, I know you have a bird fetish, but you really are overrating their capabilities. Crows can be pretty clever, but that's because other birds are such hollow skulled, vapid creatures that they look smart by comparison; it's a pretty low bar.
>inb4 muh corvids
Corvids are smart in some aspects, they have decent memory and some problem solving ability, but that's about it, they don't hold a candle to social animals like rats, chimps, whales, dolphins, elephants, horses and dogs. All mammals by the way.
Human brains take a huge amount of energy to develop, so biologically speaking, if you want a smart animal the parent has to devote a lot of energy and resources to it. By far the best way to do this is with milk, you don't have to worry about finding food the right size or the right type and you don't have to worry about times when you cant find food because your body will use your own fat stores to feed the baby. It contains all the right nutrients, digestive enzymes, hormones and antibodies to keep your child healthy, look it up, it is the evolutionarily superior option. An egg layer will never have this and never compete with mammals.
Except pigeons make crop milk for their hatchlings.
With the crop, which they use to store and mash up food for their chicks they can regurgitate the cell lining to feed them, but it's still nowhere near as good as producing milk like a mammal.
It works just as well and the young are on their own in weeks. Regurgitation also works great. Birds min maxed weight and developed dramatically more efficient respiratory, renal, reproductive and even neurological systems. Their eyes, superior. Their ears, superior. Their vocalizations, superior. You think you're clowning on birds for laying eggs when it's entirely purposeful because weight kills. Weight is inertia, and they live by the millisecond. Not fearing mammals, but other birds.
Humans are more connected to birds than anything else in the wild world. We hear and see them constantly because they aren't afraid to be in our presence. We write poetry and song in their name and spirit. They are to us, freedom and grace, pride, strength, and cleverness. The only animals which compare are domestic dogs and horses, which are loyalty and service respectively and need no defense. In all the wild world though, it's birds humans desire. A wood without birdsong is foreboding, but with is relaxing and inviting. We put up tens of thousands of feeders for no other reason than to see them land and spend a fleeting moment in our presence.
Humans love birds, and have always envied them. Birds are amazing, and you are some kind of broken, bitter person for not understanding that.
get the fuck out of here bird brain. mammal master race
cope
the point is that mammalfags lost, keep seething
Nah the point is that dunking on mammalfag is entertaining.
PaleoAI seems pretty limited, it just keeps repeating same seethe & cope like a broken record.
You keep refusing to acknowledge the point and want to talk about eagles attacking small dogs. Do you think that’s a discussion, schizo? Or are you trying to troll whichever boogeyman you think is here with you right now?
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Same old copes ad infinitum. I'm starting to think paleoschizo might be an AI.
Naaaaaaaaah
Egglaying is superior tho, dont even need a male to reproduce. Mammals will lose hard in the long run.
>rat
Mammals have higher evolutionary potential due to not leaving our undeveloped young out as free lunch and paternal genetic imprinting creating more possibilities for novel mutations. This is why birds are sky vermin, and the dominant complex species on earth are mammals, and so is the only one with even a slight chance of winning the eternal arms race and BTFOing life tiself.
Entirely because they have to cope with egg laying, and for no other reason, birds will never be anything but mere birds, automata that keep getting more and more refined for their mortal niche. All because egg laying is so gimped, they needed flight to keep their children from being eaten before they were born.
Ovivorous bats will be the end of them. Even rats can wipe out an entire bird species because they didn't build their nests up high enough.
Yeah, bats, who are are also permanently stuck to simply being the flying troglodytes of the night, again, save for the few species of giant hodor-retard-ass bats who eat fruits like queers, are TOTALLY going to steal the vast majority of niches that birds occupy
K E K !
The only reason birds even exist is they either live somewhere where an egg eating predator hasn't landed yet or they hide on top of a tree like an incel. And even the latter ones get heemed hard by a fucking housecat, and sometimes rats (they can climb a bit you know). Fuck, even dogs bred specifically not to kill things like labs and herding dogs will wipe out ground nesting bird populations. Not by hunting the adults, but because it's so easy to end an entire generation before it's even born.
Oviparity is an evolutionary handicap. it restricts which niches an animal can occupy. It restricts how well it can deal with competition. It restricts how readily they can move to a new niche. And in the case of flying animals, it totally cuts off any chance they had at equaling man. The average oviparous animal is extremely primitive and lucky the world is so large it can coexist with more advanced life (the least fragile ones cope by laying dozens of eggs and guarding them 24/7 because of their based slow metabolisms. taking notes, bird boys?).
>the hide in the trees like an incel
So do bats? Except that they're even worse, considering that they hide in literal CAVES? A bird at least gets sun.
nooo you dont get it, its totally different when based mammals do it!
4chan arguments in a nutshell
Caves are based because you have to share them with bears. Trees are cringe. What sounds cooler? CAVEman or tree hugger?
Don't you have a spinosaurus depiction to be seething over?
predatory birds mog everything in their weight range, if even slightly above. Bats are a dead end, cats can barely catch sickly sparrows and get destroyed by goshawks and rats are snacks for kestrels
>back to muh animal fights, muh back stabbing eggcel could kill a possum
Who cares
Oviparity is a handicap on an animal's evolutionary potential
Birds have been here unchanged for over 100 million years and they are everywhere from cities to antarctica. Not that much of a handicap clearly when they are, despite being ancient and lay eggs extremely successful and adaptable
>Unchanged
Exactly. because they've hit a wall and can't change much.
>everywhere
There isn't something able to eat their eggs. As soon as a mammal exists to eat those eggs, the birds disappear.
2 more millenia
more like 20 years at this pace
50% of bird species in australia already heemed by mammalchads
This is the cope and seethe of a "man" who knows he lost an argument.
>laying eggs is a handicap
>retard: actually muh animal could kick this small canid's ass!
>raptors are more than capable of competing with small-to-medium sized mammalian carnivores
>W-well they're incels so it doesn't matter!!!
>so are bats
>b-b-buh that's baste because they live with bears!!
>you're coping
>STAHP TALKING ABOUT ANIMUL FITES!1!1!1
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And did I not originally say that egg laying was a handicap, not that it's impossible for a mammal to be smaller? Birds are still incels btw.
You wanted to start an animal fight argument instead so you could get BTFO twice. That was your decision.
>durr well a bird could kill a dog
Humans (mammals) can kill entire species of birds. So can rats. Lol. And what does it matter for the bird? They do it with dishonor so they get 0 respect.
Not dead, just permanently gimped in evolutionary development as soon as something figured out how to eat their eggs.
Yes, said canid having zero adaptions to climb a tree, retard.
you do realize that dinosaurs were laying eggs for at least a hundred million years while mammals we're small rat-things that gave live birth, right? By your imbecile logic, the dinosaurs would have been dead FAR before the meteor even hit the Earth.
broken record cope
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaah, ain't reading that gay essay
>12 species of canid are known to have been hunted by golden eagles and they collectively make up about 2.8% of the diet from all surveyed golden eagle nests. For the most part, foxes are the preferred prey. In a nest in Mongolia, Corsac fox (Vulpes corsac) were surprisingly the main prey species, making up 38% of sampled remains. Kit fox (Vulpes macrotis), swift fox (Vulpes velox), gray fox (Urocyon cinereoargenteus) and island fox (Urocyon littoralis) are readily predated in North America. Red foxes make up 13.5% of nest remains in Sicily and 5.9% in the Republic of Macedonia. Among red foxes, juveniles are usually targeted as prey, though golden eagles can kill foxes of any age or condition, including adult male red foxes heavier than the eagles themselves. Occasionally, even coyotes, including healthy adult males, can be successfully killed by golden eagles.
>Incel animal uses surprise attacks to kill superior being
Pretty much. And even then it's a relatively basic mammal. Small canids. Lol.
Mammals rule the land and the skies are next.
>"m-mkaybe if I keep saying 'incel animal' my point will be *gulp* r-r-r-right...."
please do keep embarassing yourself 😉
You tried to branch off into a carnivora.net tier animal fight argument but forgot that honor is as important as victory. So it's a red herring you still lost.
The original topic was and still is how egg laying resulted in birds permanently losing any and all evolutionary potential because it's a shitty reproductive strategy. They will always be pesky vermin and prey. Mid-tier predators at best, but better suited for eating fish and other vermin. Egg laying is so gimped that birds have failed to displace bats because something would just eat their eggs if they tried to edge further into that niche. The T. rex days aren't coming back, because if they try, something will just eat their eggs.
>honor is as important as victory
Honor is human loser cope and seethe. Victory has been all that mattered for hundreds of millions of years, even among humanity. After killing your enemies, nobody can accuse you of dishonor. The writers of history are always the victors.
>"b-b-birds are incels!!!!"
>"but b-bats (who literally exclusively hunt at night save for a few of the larger retard species who eat fruit like gays, only going after puny insects for hours on end mind you) are SOOOOO HECKIN BASED THO!!!!1!!!111!!!"
KEK! You can't make this cope up!
>Birds literally shit cum to continue their species
Do with this information what you will
wow thats a lot of new thre-
>its paleoschizo
Didn't they add rangebans for autists like him?
>Didn't they add rangebans for autists like him?
They should have. He does keep getting banned but always evades.
why are we supposed to ban schizos again? They are the most entertaining part of imageboards. No need to ban someone just because they are a retard
Nice to see mammalfags get btfo once gain.
the schizo isn't even trying anymore, seems like even he realized he lost.
>A Nile monitor lizard has produced an offspring without ever performing sexual intercourse or coming in contact with male monitor.
>A few years earlier, at Louisville Zoo, a reticulated python named Thelma—who had never even seen a male python—laid six eggs that developed into healthy young snakes. And in 2006, at England’s Chester Zoo, a Komodo dragon named Flora achieved a similar feat
Now lets see mammals do the same
mammals don't need to because they can actually get laid
Especially dogs when you freaks are around
Especially dogs when you freaks are around, cheif?
>*crying labradorjak* but nooooo bird-chan you don't understand, I NEED coom to reproduce!!!1!
Right: mammals
Left: female bird getting herself pregnant
>uuuuuh-uuuh..... IM CHAD N YUR VIRGIN!!!111!
What a weird cope.
>anime chad
please have a nice day
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Bats can't fly for shit, they're terrible at it. And cats are terrible at hunting rats but a barn owl can easily catch over 10 in a single night.
>Bats are terrible at flying
This is false lol
>Cats are terrible at hunting rats
That's because their preferred prey are flying animals and the smaller, dumber mice.
>A typical alligator nest may have anywhere between 30 to 70 eggs incubating, but only about two to 14 will survive.
>has to bury and ferociously guard 30 to 70 eggs just to have a few successful offspring
Oviparity is a handicap.
Yet alligators are wildly successful despite changing very little over geologic time scales. Handicap, hm.
bats are more efficient and agile than birds
https://www.skedaddlewildlife.com/location/pickering/blog/bats-efficient-flyers-than-birds/
>animal with less efficient respiratory system evolves more efficient locomotion
big fucking surprise. they also aren't an evolutionary dead end and can, and always will be able to, re-evolve hands. meanwhile birds have this shit. what are they going to do, evolve a claw? crab birds? turn their wings into legs and have arms dangling under them? biped shoulders are ill suited to suspend an animal like that so they would have to flip upside down entirely. limbs lost are unlikely to return.
>be bird
>evolve to equal man with hands and everything
>your anus is on top of your body and your head is on the bottom
>no bowel control btw
Bats can't even compete with birds which is why they are nocturnal.
The fastest flying animals are birds, the largest and heaviest flying animals are birds. Birds can flying for longer distances, higher altitudes, and longer duration than any bat. Birds are also far more agile in the air than bats. Multiple bird species prey on bats, while only 1 or two bats have the ability to prey on birds.
Birds are infinitely more effective flying animals.
>Animal fills available niche after birds already exist
>IT CANT COMPETE
It's more like birds can't compete because they can't expand into bats niche. All they can do is eat the tiny bats, while diurnal bats (yes, they exist) are peaceful fruit eaters. Mammals win again, even as incel animals that try and stay away from hand-having groundchads.
Yeah, handicap. Laying 70 eggs to have 2 children. They haven't changed because they can't leave their niche with that going on. They tried to a long, long time ago, but it was a failed diversifcation. They are forever the booby trap of the water.
tbh after rats and cats do the needful its very likely that bats will diversify to fill the empty niche since nothing else can, and once they're there, birds won't be coming back since ovivorous bats are next on the to-do list, assuming rodents and increasingly tree-climbing felines don't keep the eggfags away.
>they can't expand into bats niche.
But they already did. Keep seething.
And yet, they did not.
https://www.science.org/content/article/egg-eating-humans-helped-drive-australia-s-thunder-bird-extinction
Lol egg laying
>Oviparous animal is primitive
>40 egg clutches
Surprise. Fish are oviparous too i guess they're great? The only way to lay eggs and be successful is to be primitive and lay a shitton or be a weak skycel and hide on top of a tree. It's a hard cap on evolutionary potential.
Right of course, and as we know there are no other large egg laying animals which have diversity outside exactly how alligators work.
So right!! Egg layers just can't compete with mammals
>primitive food tube kills animal selected for docility
A bug killed a human omg egg laying is so superior! Is being alive inferior to being a virus too?
Mammal hating bird schizo always, always, ALWAYS resorts to gore.
What a weird cope.
>Mammal hating bird schizo always, always, ALWAYS resorts to gore.
Youre the only one whos been talking killing animals this entire thread, you psycho freak.
Whos been talking killing animals this entire thread, cheif?
>Mammal hating bird schizo always, always, ALWAYS resorts to gore.
This is the first time I've had this kind of converation. Do you keep claiming that mammals btfo birds or something? Because anyone can just google "bird fighting dog" and prove you wrong. Yes, the pictures will be of eagles and such killing and eating foxes, wolves, etc, because that's what actually happens in reality. It's not like one person is going out to fabricate search engine results which go against what you think. It's different anons finding the same evidence because it's the real truth. You do understand, when something has evidence, different people can discover the same evidence and come to the same conclusion. You do understand that being wrong isn't an indication that someone is out to get you, right?
>Incel animal uses surprise attacks to kill superior being
And most of those results are mongolians setting eagles on chained wolves. Yikes.
Yet another reminder mammals kicked theropods off the top of the food chain and their school shooter tier antics will never get that spot back
Again, what a weird cope.
What weird cope, to be talking about mammals, but bring up cage fights and birds attacking small canids, when the topic is actually how birds are permanently third rate at best and have no evolutionary potential because the weaknesses of egg laying required them to hyperspecialize towards flight, and how egg laying is a primitive and flawed strategy that limits the evolutionary potential of a species.
>Anyone can just google "human dies to sickness" or "bird dies to sickness"
mitosis and simple viral replication confirmed for superior to sexual reproduction
complex life btfo
Yes actually.
insufficiently complex life without the potential to ascend to synthetic life is worse than bacteria yes
simple life will exist and adapt as long as it can metabolize something, but a creature like a bird is kind of fucked if the environment changes too drastically and will never evolve the ability to abandon biology
Carnivora.netcels deserve the rope.
oh god why did you have to remind me of that den of neckbeards
Batfags absolutely btfo
Oh it's the ban evading schizo seething hard again. Didn't read btw.
Hens lay and brood even without a rooster they don't know any better. For hens "sex" is just touching assholes while the rooster stomps on your head.
It's called cloacal kiss, you uncultured swine, and it's very sensual. Hens can achieve an orgasm too.
It’s just mentally ill. Plus they shit-piss (in the same turd) out of the same hole. Ew.
You're the only mentally ill here. Also eggs come from that same shit-piss hole.
The difference is i wash the eggs off, crack them open, and then cook them to over 160 degrees.
The shell that touched cloaca is then crushed and fed back to the chicken.
>washing eggs
This is why Americans are scared of raw eggs. "Washing" them damages their shell, which makes the inside more likely to spoil. It is completely sufficient to brush off the eggs. This way the egg shell stays intact and you don't even need to put the eggs in the fridge.
It's peak efficiency and works fine. Split genitalia was a hack mammals came up with to solve health issues created by the retarded move to viviparity.
>the retarded move to viviparity
Mammals dominated the planet and everything that lays eggs devolved into lowly vermin or giant vermin because of that "retarded" move.
>nooo ur dick might get a booboo
Yeah but your eggs are delicious.
inb4 birdfag seethe and gore spam
In the end it doesn't just even out, it works out in mammals favor, which is why archosaurs had to almost entirely leave the land and cope with being the equivalent of giant flying bugs that hide in trees.
Birds devolved from the chads of nature to the school shooters of nature tbh
>Theropods then: Giant musclebound killing machines that can run down and slaughter gigafauna (GIGA, as in chad)
>Theropods now: Various flavors of chicken, rely on surprise attacks and staying out of reach like a mentally disturbed teenager shooting children from 50 feet away
they even tried to re-evolve into the chads of nature, but they failed when mammals countered with their own murderous biped, all because they laid eggs and egg laying necessitates cowardice as soon as the top spot is contested by something that doesn't have totally immobile young basically wrapped up for easier consumption.
Mammals don't owe any success to viviparity or divided genitalia, and birds remain the juggernaut of the 0-10kg weight class. Also flying is cooler than anything mammals do.
Viviparity and the necessary divided genitalia are the entire reason theropods got kicked off the top of the food chain and resorted to hiding as far up as possible. The smallest mammalian "predator" (pic related, a bigger ecological terrorist than cats) is enough to wipe out entire bird populations if they don't. Egg laying is a primitive and retarded strategy.
>and flying is-
Bats are more successful than birds, and more efficient.
Go job to a household pest birdschizo.
Oh of course, it was impossible to be a successful large egg layer and that's why alligators went extinct millions of years ago
>California.jpg
>Hens can achieve an orgasm too.
From that one webm, you know the one, I believe it.
I need a video of this
For... research
just look up chicken mating on youtube
They go for the next closest thing, that big ape that feeds them.
they get to take the most amazing craps all the time. if anything they're probably stressed about the circumference they have to deal with on a daily basis.
Birds don't really have sexual pleasure. They just get so horny they coom into each other. It's very mentally ill of them, so they can be gay as it's pretty much the same thing.
The alpha female starts acting like a rooster.
i help them with that
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They can, and it's an intense experience for them. Afterwards they flutter their wings and cluck a bunch while strutting around energetically. It's pretty cute.