how come society deems euthenasia for animals okay but not humans?

how come society deems euthenasia for animals okay but not humans?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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    You're thinking like a 2nd gen warfare boomer. 6th gen warfare will use targeted societal shame, and psychic drones to convince the healthcare workers to all kill themselves.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Humans deserve to suffer.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    read savitri devi and you will understand

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >read savitri devi and you will understand
      Qrd?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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    they might turn the gun on our heroic healtcare workers... this almost sounds like you're a traitor to your country and want to see her fall? troubling thoughts to be sure

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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    the super elite are too smart to know what a gun or rope is, silly boy

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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    >a real action that is your own
    To what extent is it your own action, though?
    While many people do want to genuinely end their lives due to suffering, the proliferation and normalisation of "Assisted Suicide" or "Merciful Death" rhetoric will likely change the context around death, especially with old age or illness. With Euthanasia potentially becoming advertised like any bootleg tv treatment, it'll be household conversation. Whether we like it or not, what we talk about, expose ourselves to or directly or indirectly ingest from media, our social lives and our daily activities does affect the way we think. If Euthanasia is consistently painted in a positive light, and consistently aimed at the "vulnerable", then people will be indirectly groomed to think that Euthanising the vulnerable will be consideration at best, and a necessity at worst.

    Euthanasia as a state-endorsed or publicly tolerated tool has one destination. Mass controversy and scandal when it turns with thousands dead over years with "caring" workers "talking" with their vulnerable patients about "considering" an "alternative" to their predicament.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >thinly veiled canada hate thread

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Animals are not humans. We routinely torture and force-breed them for our consumptions in their billions. We have no moral game with killing animals, so when an animal is suffering (Unnecessary, I might add) it's considered ethical to destroy it. Not to kill it. Destroy it. It's usually owned by someone, and that makes it quasi-property with a few unenforced welfare laws thrown around a bit.
    Human euthanasia is more complicated. We live in a society where killing people outside of the most extreme circumstance (self defence, war) is extremely taboo. The act of dealing out death outside of those circumstances is thus viewed with suHispanicion.

    As far as the arguments go, the biggest concern with Euthanasia is that it would be provided by the state, and one of the key tenets of abandoning the death penalty was to remove the ability for the government to legally murder their citizens, but the most compelling issue is you have the "slippery slope" debate with what get's decided to be "qualified" for Euthanasia.
    You might say that we only want it for neurologically degenerate conditions (Lock-In Syndrome, Dementia, other forms of neurologically damaging long term conditions). However, if we can tolerate that, why not let people who suffer from similar circumstances but aren't "diseased" so to speak? Quadriplegics? Chronic agonising nerve pain from an accident? The loss of function of limbs? Should they be allowed to suffer? Why not move to the mental conditions. Schizophrenia, Significant anxiety disorders which make life unbearable, Clinically diagnosable depression? (Proper, not "I have depression" on the internet). Once we've done that, why don't we go for things which are fundamentally life changing and can significantly impact the quality of someone's life? The loss of both arms/legs or their function being reduced? Blindness? Deafness? physical accidents which cause people to live in pain for the rest of their lives?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Once we've unofficially determined that "suffering" can qualify you for euthanasia, why not move on to the more mild but still serious mental health disorders and so-called "Neuro-divergent" conditions? OCD? ASD? Psycho/Sociopathic tendencies? They all cause suffering do they not? It would be unethical to deny them, especially when they routinely live worse lives than other people. Once we've done that, why not go onto more mild things like someone with long-term grief, heartache, loneliness? We cannot argue that the issues which mentally ill people suffer from cannot be taken into consideration for the "rest" of the population? Why not just offer it because someone wants to die? Suicidal people would kill themselves either way, it's cruel to simply let someone suffer?

      You see where Euthanasia's going? A few decades of solid campaigning and you'll get the meme 25 cent suicide boxes from Futurama. Unlike most 4chantards, it's not a meme government conspiracy to murder white people, it's just what happens when you let ideas like that run wild, and not only allow them to, but encourage the state both by popular support and through an act of "the greater good" to go ahead with it. If Euthanasia takes off, not only will we be seeing lots of unnecessary deaths, but it'll eventually all end in tears when massive scandals emerge with hundreds of deaths from carers that "had a chat" with their vulnerable patients about "considering" it. Society always looked at the old, vulnerable and disabled as pitiful, but we'll move from closeted feeling of hoping they were dead to advertising it in their faces from contempt masked in kindess. Making it common conversation. Working our way from A to A-, from B- to C, and before you know it, F is a good reason for euthanasia. It's not a "slippery slope", its a gradual and proven decline in quality that will occur in the reasoning for it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Suicide should be legal anyway. Not a big concern. We're all mature enough by now to realize that life is not in fact a precious gift from heaven. It's a crapshoot if it'll worth living or not. Until we have perfect genetic engineering and/or virtual reality brain uploading so you can escape your shitty life/body, euthanasia is our best option for the truly unfortunate. Some people will decide to exit life before they needed to, but it's their choice if they want to try to repair their life or not. May as well let them die comfortably in a clinic somewhere rather than make them attempt a messier option and traumatize whoever happens to find the body.

        As for exploiting the mentally vulnerable, it's already a problem to some extent. I agree that euthanasia would make this problem more severe. But it's probably worth the risk. Our attitude is already changing on the mentally disabled. The majority of down syndrome people are aborted these days thanks to genetic screening. The issue is that disabled people essentially disable the entire family if they aren't capable of independence. It's an ugly truth, but it's probably for the best if these people just die until medical technology allows us to fix them. There's no heaven or hell, so there's no reward for burdening the abled with them. We're just creating more suffering with this shit. Not worth it. Momentum is the only reason we continue to care for them. We're actually kinder to dogs because we're willing to make a judgement on whether a life is worth living. For both the afflicted and the one's who will be chained to them. These ideas might be uncomfortable for the present, but that doesn't mean they're wrong. One day it'll be common sense.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I think the bigger problem is if you normalize suicide anyone with an IQ above 130 will almost certainly at some point in their natural lifespan choose it. Leaving a population of people wondering if they're just still alive because they're too dumb to see the pointlessness of it all. Also removing the babysitters that actually keep society together and moving forward.

          but then I'm a nihilist at heart so I don't really have a problem with any of that. I'm pretty sure the apes suspect something though. They're like "the state wants to euthanize us!!!" and then be all dumfounded when the state euthanizes itself and leaves them to die of starvation or whatever.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >nihilist at heart
            You need to be 18 to post here

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Potentially? I'm not sure how sound that is. Last I checked, higher IQs were associated with more life satisfaction. The stereotype seems to be the opposite but it makes sense why that wouldn't be the case. Stupid people are going to find life more stressful & frustrating because they can't adapt to changing circumstances. Intelligent people are probably more likely to throw off a thought terminating cliche like "suicide is always wrong" or "life is precious," etc. but I would think they're only more likely to act on it when life reaches an unbearable point. Which is probably at a stage of advanced illness very late in life. Not before reproductive or career-productive age. This doesn't strike me as a problem for society. It's exactly the kind of thing euthanasia proponents have in mind.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dunno where you've been but we've been euthanizing humans since the 1800s and its only recently been made a privatized legal way to be done so.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    canada stole it from denmark or the netherlands, the fancy far away place where reddit karma is real and human dignity is just as good

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm Danish and used to work in the ICU here.
      Euthanasia is illegal here but we still do it a lot with hopeless suffering cases.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Sweden here
        Mostly takes the form of giving dying or just very old and ill people a lot of morphine when that's not conducive to extending their life span here. Basically just letting nature take it's course with a minimum of of pain and stress. I think the option should be there to end it earlier for particularly horrible terminal shit like bone cancer and whatever, but not for psychiatric shit.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because it is seen as inhumane to keep an animal suffering. Because they can't ask for death, or treatment, euthanising is the best option. If people want to die, it is best to keep them suffering for as long as possible, because otherwise they would be kept from entering heaven.
    It's very logical, just think about it. Sitting on god's lap, asking him to get you a new bike for his sons birthday, you don't wanna miss that.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what is death penalty

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Brother, are you living in a bubble?

    Paralympian claims Canada offered to euthanise her when she asked for a ... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/christine-gauthier-paralympian-euthanasia-canada-b2238319.html?amp

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >canadians
      >people

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Paralympian claims Canada offered to euthanise her when she asked for a ...
      That feel when you're paid to shill agitprop on a mongolian basket weaving forum but you can't be arsed to click "show more" on the text you're expected to copy and paste.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        When I copy link on my phone it adds that and didn't notice.

        She needed a chairlift to get up stairs and it was taking a really long time, so they offered to euthanize her instead of simply installing the chairlift sooner. Absolutely absurd clown world.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Canadians are really fucked in the head behind their veneer of politeness, huh?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I dont really blame them. They're at the hub of the nwo agenda 21, and propaganda is pretty sophisticated these days. Learned helplessness leads to all kinds of crazy shit.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the government turning people into paste is actually a capitalist scheme!
        ok, uh huh, keep it going

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For the same reason society deems eating animals okay but not humans, retard.

      Death is the solution to all Canadian problems.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >we need to ban guns, one of the reasons being mentally ill people with guns can too easily kill themselves.
      >we offer mentally/physically ill people and everyone else the option to kill themselves.

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