Dogs evolved from pack hunters who ran down their prey using speed and strength. Cats are solitary ambush hunters who evolved for agility, such as climbing and jumping to better attack prey or set up their ambushes.
There are lots of breeds that can survive without humans
Cats can’t do it regardless if breed unless they’re in an untouched ecological wonderland with no predators. They always need a human settlement close by since they’re worse hunters and better scavengers than wild cats.
The neuron density and organization of the dog/wolf brain is superior to everything else in carnivora except for raccoons and hyenas. They even have a more primitive version of wernicke's area so they can actually understand language into thoughts and feelings, and just lack the ability to turn that process around and understand thoughts into language. The dog has the same or slightly superior peak general intelligence than a pig (of course, the average pig is going to BTFO unterdogsch like labs, shitbulls, and mastiffs in any cognitive task), with superior social comprehension, and they are extremely useful to have around as a result.
We could do better but it would mean domesticating hyenas or just leaving carnivora entirely and working with primates or taking a chance on the possibility of avians having "souls" (mammal-like self concept based on inverted causality).
>chance on the possibility of avians having "souls"
Avians are pretty intelligent and trainable. Anyways, do you really think cats are that much dumber than dogs, or is it a quirk of their temperament that causes us to think they are dumber than they are?
Cats ARE much dumber than dogs, and they always will be. it's a neurological reality. They have fewer neurons, and the connections between them show that their brains are more oriented towards visual-motor skills. We can postulate this in the same way we can postulate a dolphin is dumber than a human, possibly smarter than a chimp. The dolphins frontal cortex is reduced, and the spindle neurons connecting distant regions of their large brain are fewer in number and less organized.
You're just easily impressed and would probably think a trained rat was smarter than an untrained border collie because your culture equates subjective metrics like career achievement and cooperation with an objective metric like cognitive capacity ("you are your job"), combined with fallacious soi-ence worship (if it has not been proven in a study, it's not that the a scientifically valid study is difficult to devise and operate to completion, it means it is not true).
2 months ago
Anonymous
>equates subjective metrics like career achievement and cooperation with an objective metric like cognitive capacity
But you can make career achievement or cooperation into objective metrics with standardized tests. And what's the point of intelligence if you don't do useful stuff with it?
2 months ago
Anonymous
How do you define useful? Who made you founder, owner, and operator of all life on earth inc? Maybe I think your "useful" slave dog is useless because it's a neurotic gay unlike my based cat who uses his limited intelligence more wisely - by not annoying me? Useful is a subjective metric. Cognitive capacity is an objective metric like the efficiency of a machine.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>How do you define useful?
You pick and choose tasks to test efficiency/effectiveness of the animal. That's how they make working dog breeds.
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Anonymous
And these tasks are important because? You think so? I think your working dog is useless because none of its jobs are more important than doing circus tricks and it's a neurotic and pathetic creature that lacks free will. It's a detriment to the world, even, if you use it to enable bad things like police brutality, the war on drugs aka black people, and animal agriculture.
Cats are dumber, but aren't they better? Maybe you could breed a dog to be better in the same way as a cat. Make it so it doesn't bark, bite, eat shit, or go insane if not told when to sleep and when to wake up.
2 months ago
Anonymous
PS: bad faith i know it already happened
Just illustrating how dumb you are for picking this semantic fight between intelligence and usefulness. Wolves are smarter than all dogs but also not "useful", or maybe you're just too shit to train them.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit you get offended for no reason
2 months ago
Anonymous
>t. offended
Domesticated animals are intended to be a tribute to man's triumph over nature. Dogs are dependent on humans to be clean, disease free and disciplined, but they are very loyal, useful for personal protection, property guards, hunting, shepherding, bomb and drug sniffing, etc. A trusty tool, a sentient weapon, and companion to some. People feel differently about certain animals compared to a species we literally co-evolved with and treat as family and that's fine.
>intended to be
Not by anyone important tbh, just a bunch of filthy gaijin that like filthy things. Nippon has the only good pets tbh.
Prove me wrong, baka. You can't.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Cats spread disease and are invasive. The domestic/street cat is the most disgusting thing to me, but what do you expect from animals that just come when they want food. Dogs love their owner as long as they are good to them, there is an actual form of social contract. They're mentally inferior to dogs, and their hearing range makes them incapable of properly understanding your verbal commands. They're only a step up from fish and reptiles as pets. There is no competition.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Muh neurons gay is an anti cat schizo
Called it. Do the rest of us a favor and off yourself you pathetic waste of oxygen.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Domesticated animals are intended to be a tribute to man's triumph over nature. Dogs are dependent on humans to be clean, disease free and disciplined, but they are very loyal, useful for personal protection, property guards, hunting, shepherding, bomb and drug sniffing, etc. A trusty tool, a sentient weapon, and companion to some. People feel differently about certain animals compared to a species we literally co-evolved with and treat as family and that's fine.
Cats ARE much dumber than dogs, and they always will be. it's a neurological reality. They have fewer neurons, and the connections between them show that their brains are more oriented towards visual-motor skills. We can postulate this in the same way we can postulate a dolphin is dumber than a human, possibly smarter than a chimp. The dolphins frontal cortex is reduced, and the spindle neurons connecting distant regions of their large brain are fewer in number and less organized.
You're just easily impressed and would probably think a trained rat was smarter than an untrained border collie because your culture equates subjective metrics like career achievement and cooperation with an objective metric like cognitive capacity ("you are your job"), combined with fallacious soi-ence worship (if it has not been proven in a study, it's not that the a scientifically valid study is difficult to devise and operate to completion, it means it is not true).
And these tasks are important because? You think so? I think your working dog is useless because none of its jobs are more important than doing circus tricks and it's a neurotic and pathetic creature that lacks free will. It's a detriment to the world, even, if you use it to enable bad things like police brutality, the war on drugs aka black people, and animal agriculture.
Cats are dumber, but aren't they better? Maybe you could breed a dog to be better in the same way as a cat. Make it so it doesn't bark, bite, eat shit, or go insane if not told when to sleep and when to wake up.
Domesticated animals are intended to be a tribute to man's triumph over nature. Dogs are dependent on humans to be clean, disease free and disciplined, but they are very loyal, useful for personal protection, property guards, hunting, shepherding, bomb and drug sniffing, etc. A trusty tool, a sentient weapon, and companion to some. People feel differently about certain animals compared to a species we literally co-evolved with and treat as family and that's fine.
Cats spread disease and are invasive. The domestic/street cat is the most disgusting thing to me, but what do you expect from animals that just come when they want food. Dogs love their owner as long as they are good to them, there is an actual form of social contract. They're mentally inferior to dogs, and their hearing range makes them incapable of properly understanding your verbal commands. They're only a step up from fish and reptiles as pets. There is no competition.
The reason Canines and Humans ended up becoming such good friends so early is because they're one of the few animals that can keep pace with us. Early hunter gatherers used persistence hunting, which is a tactic wolves in packs use. You're not going to outrun a spooked deer in a sprint, but if you just keep a steady pace, and keep tracking them, you can make up the difference over time, until you've exhausted the animal you're stalking and you can just all pile on the thing and break its neck or stove in its head.
They're muscles for endurance.
Cats on the other hand are typically ambush predators, and the whole tactic is reserving their energy for one big push to catch their prey.
Think of a cheetah. They're fast as fuck, but they don't keep that pace up for long.
The reason Canines and Humans ended up becoming such good friends so early is because they're one of the few animals that can keep pace with us. Early hunter gatherers used persistence hunting, which is a tactic wolves in packs use. You're not going to outrun a spooked deer in a sprint, but if you just keep a steady pace, and keep tracking them, you can make up the difference over time, until you've exhausted the animal you're stalking and you can just all pile on the thing and break its neck or stove in its head.
They're muscles for endurance.
Cats on the other hand are typically ambush predators, and the whole tactic is reserving their energy for one big push to catch their prey.
Think of a cheetah. They're fast as fuck, but they don't keep that pace up for long.
Their muscles are built differently. Cat muscles have a lot more fast twitch muscle fiber than dogs or people do. Which is why a cat can be a lazy piece of shit 99.9% of the time and then being able to swat a bird out of the air.
People and dogs have more long muscle fibers, which are better for endurance.
We all have both kinds, and certain muscles have more of one kind than the other, depending on what they do, but you can think of cats as having spring loaded muscles. A lot more power and energy released at once, but you have to "reset" the springs before they can go again. Your endurance muscles are more like pistons, made to keep going, and have more power to give over time, but with a less steep curve.
>tigers, leopards, jaguars, lions, and cheetahs exist
Not felis. Not the same animal as domesticated cats.
Tigers can also jump unexpectedly high.
how come a bird can fly in the air but a bear can't? they're different animals genius
Dogs evolved from pack hunters who ran down their prey using speed and strength. Cats are solitary ambush hunters who evolved for agility, such as climbing and jumping to better attack prey or set up their ambushes.
There are lots of breeds that can survive without humans
Cats can’t do it regardless if breed unless they’re in an untouched ecological wonderland with no predators. They always need a human settlement close by since they’re worse hunters and better scavengers than wild cats.
Exactly according to keikaku.
Nippon has dogs. Thanks for proving ore no correct baka gaijin. Yare yare daze.
Lighter build, stronger hindlegs.
Cats hunt mainly by pouncing. They're terrible chasers.
Anything a cat can do, there is a breed of dog that can do it better. Except maybe shit in a sandbox without training.
Show me a dog that can climb trees and run along the top of fences
Not a "dogfag" in your gay ass console war shitflinging. Just think cats could be bred to be more useful/obedient/entertaining.
They can't without some major genetic remodeling.
The neuron density and organization of the dog/wolf brain is superior to everything else in carnivora except for raccoons and hyenas. They even have a more primitive version of wernicke's area so they can actually understand language into thoughts and feelings, and just lack the ability to turn that process around and understand thoughts into language. The dog has the same or slightly superior peak general intelligence than a pig (of course, the average pig is going to BTFO unterdogsch like labs, shitbulls, and mastiffs in any cognitive task), with superior social comprehension, and they are extremely useful to have around as a result.
We could do better but it would mean domesticating hyenas or just leaving carnivora entirely and working with primates or taking a chance on the possibility of avians having "souls" (mammal-like self concept based on inverted causality).
>chance on the possibility of avians having "souls"
Avians are pretty intelligent and trainable. Anyways, do you really think cats are that much dumber than dogs, or is it a quirk of their temperament that causes us to think they are dumber than they are?
Cats ARE much dumber than dogs, and they always will be. it's a neurological reality. They have fewer neurons, and the connections between them show that their brains are more oriented towards visual-motor skills. We can postulate this in the same way we can postulate a dolphin is dumber than a human, possibly smarter than a chimp. The dolphins frontal cortex is reduced, and the spindle neurons connecting distant regions of their large brain are fewer in number and less organized.
You're just easily impressed and would probably think a trained rat was smarter than an untrained border collie because your culture equates subjective metrics like career achievement and cooperation with an objective metric like cognitive capacity ("you are your job"), combined with fallacious soi-ence worship (if it has not been proven in a study, it's not that the a scientifically valid study is difficult to devise and operate to completion, it means it is not true).
>equates subjective metrics like career achievement and cooperation with an objective metric like cognitive capacity
But you can make career achievement or cooperation into objective metrics with standardized tests. And what's the point of intelligence if you don't do useful stuff with it?
How do you define useful? Who made you founder, owner, and operator of all life on earth inc? Maybe I think your "useful" slave dog is useless because it's a neurotic gay unlike my based cat who uses his limited intelligence more wisely - by not annoying me? Useful is a subjective metric. Cognitive capacity is an objective metric like the efficiency of a machine.
>How do you define useful?
You pick and choose tasks to test efficiency/effectiveness of the animal. That's how they make working dog breeds.
And these tasks are important because? You think so? I think your working dog is useless because none of its jobs are more important than doing circus tricks and it's a neurotic and pathetic creature that lacks free will. It's a detriment to the world, even, if you use it to enable bad things like police brutality, the war on drugs aka black people, and animal agriculture.
Cats are dumber, but aren't they better? Maybe you could breed a dog to be better in the same way as a cat. Make it so it doesn't bark, bite, eat shit, or go insane if not told when to sleep and when to wake up.
PS: bad faith i know it already happened
Just illustrating how dumb you are for picking this semantic fight between intelligence and usefulness. Wolves are smarter than all dogs but also not "useful", or maybe you're just too shit to train them.
Holy shit you get offended for no reason
>t. offended
>intended to be
Not by anyone important tbh, just a bunch of filthy gaijin that like filthy things. Nippon has the only good pets tbh.
Prove me wrong, baka. You can't.
Cats spread disease and are invasive. The domestic/street cat is the most disgusting thing to me, but what do you expect from animals that just come when they want food. Dogs love their owner as long as they are good to them, there is an actual form of social contract. They're mentally inferior to dogs, and their hearing range makes them incapable of properly understanding your verbal commands. They're only a step up from fish and reptiles as pets. There is no competition.
>Muh neurons gay is an anti cat schizo
Called it. Do the rest of us a favor and off yourself you pathetic waste of oxygen.
Domesticated animals are intended to be a tribute to man's triumph over nature. Dogs are dependent on humans to be clean, disease free and disciplined, but they are very loyal, useful for personal protection, property guards, hunting, shepherding, bomb and drug sniffing, etc. A trusty tool, a sentient weapon, and companion to some. People feel differently about certain animals compared to a species we literally co-evolved with and treat as family and that's fine.
holy fucking novel...
>not a dogfag BUT
contributing to the degradation of the board you fucking loser
Holy fuck.
Where's the edit with a toddler at the top of the wall?
That's the edit with the toddler removed.
haha
The reason Canines and Humans ended up becoming such good friends so early is because they're one of the few animals that can keep pace with us. Early hunter gatherers used persistence hunting, which is a tactic wolves in packs use. You're not going to outrun a spooked deer in a sprint, but if you just keep a steady pace, and keep tracking them, you can make up the difference over time, until you've exhausted the animal you're stalking and you can just all pile on the thing and break its neck or stove in its head.
They're muscles for endurance.
Cats on the other hand are typically ambush predators, and the whole tactic is reserving their energy for one big push to catch their prey.
Think of a cheetah. They're fast as fuck, but they don't keep that pace up for long.
Solved the captcha to appreciate this brilliant response.
That doesn't explain how they do it though.
Their muscles are built differently. Cat muscles have a lot more fast twitch muscle fiber than dogs or people do. Which is why a cat can be a lazy piece of shit 99.9% of the time and then being able to swat a bird out of the air.
People and dogs have more long muscle fibers, which are better for endurance.
We all have both kinds, and certain muscles have more of one kind than the other, depending on what they do, but you can think of cats as having spring loaded muscles. A lot more power and energy released at once, but you have to "reset" the springs before they can go again. Your endurance muscles are more like pistons, made to keep going, and have more power to give over time, but with a less steep curve.
Humans used various hunting tactics. Really hate how overblown this persistence hunting is. Humans also use ambush tactics just like cats do.
How come a flea can jump 10 inches but a larger ant cannot
That's like 3 feet, not 6.
pitbulls can jump high. superdogs
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Ljr2W3RL6No
i didn't even know dogs could jump without doing a run-up
dogs are so absurdly minmaxxed they can do almost anything.
blessed webm
There is another like this where the dog even spins his tail like a propeller.
Makes me kek every time
I got u bro
Cats climb it using claws
Dogs actually jump it
Can't find a good image of both side by side, so just look up dog vs cat musculature.