Grab handle collars

Are they a gimmick or actually useful?

Shopping for a new collar for my 80lb gsd and they caught my eye, seems like it would be an easier way to get a quick hold on the collar?

A properly adjusted collar only allows 3-4 fingers under so getting a quick hold for training can be hard especially on dogs with longer fur

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    this is what my mexican friend unironically believes, along with "dogs that don't listen to me are just stupid". he owns a pitbull and hits it for begging for food.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what is it with mexicans and breeding a billion pitbulls only to dump them at the shelter after a month

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What was the original post, Mexicans are either the best dog owners or the worst goddamn owners alive I live in Texas and I believe this. Once had to explain to my Mexican friend from Mexico that he can’t just beat the shit out of a puppy when it pisses and that’s why his puppy pisses when it’s scared and he was astounded. Like he had just never seen any other way, he listened to me but the dog was too far gone. I almost adopted it because it clung to me everytime I was over but I lived with my parents. I told him he lost any opportunity of punishing it when it peed and he could only use scheduling and positive reinforcement from here until it got better since it would pee at the slightest sign of anger from a human even if we were mad at a video game

      Long story short he went to some other Mexican kids and said want a dog? And they said si and so long to snoop.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do these people think they can just beat the shit out of a human child for having an accident too

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Knew a Mexican that beat the shit out of a pitbull for everything, no positive treats or good dogs just hitting. Dog was so aggressive towards anything but humans and you could only get it to listen by hitting it

      Made me so mad as somebody who actually owns a dumpster puppy pitt bull

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I hear that's a legit old school method to stop dog attacks and force a release, just stick a finger up their ass and they freak out and freeze up

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's how I made your moma cum real hard

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So according to Wauf the only 2 things a dog should wear are a harness and an ecollar, and 99.99% of the professional dog training community have no idea what they're doing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dunning-Kruger effect.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I never thought Wauf was so stupid about dogs

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    These are for building drive, like a police dog.

    Being held back creates frustration which increases drive/desire

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I always thought they were for restraining the dog in tight spaces and stuff

      He's fine now but when I was training my dog I'd always hold his collar in cramped elevators or crowded crosswalks

      I've also used collar grab to get him away from aggressive dogs at off-leash parks

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, you do realize dogs have built-in grab handles on their neck, right?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Seatbelts are for bad drivers
    Harnesses are for untrained dogs

    If your dog doesn’t walk at a perfect herl with no leash it doesn’t respect you and you’re the dogs pet. Deal with it gringoes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Seatbelts are for bad drivers
      wat

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's right
        If you fasten your seatbelt as a passenger, that's a straight up insult.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Seatbelts are because of the OTHER bad drivers.
      Decade ago some drunk decided to swerve into my lane as we were both going full speed on a 35 MPH road.
      Apparently this was his third strike so I got $20,000 and he got 5 years in jail.
      I will never forget the acrid smell of the airbag, and I couldn't really breathe properly for quite a few minutes.
      But without that stupid airbag and that annoying seat belt I'd probably be dead.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Airbags don't inflate by filling with air, that would take too long in a situation where it needs to deploy before your face smashes the steering wheel in a collision.
        It uses a low power explosion. In early airbags a common side effect of their deployment were people getting the insides of their wrists burnt because thats where the airbag outgassed.
        The idea was having some minor burns on your forearm was a small price to pay for not having your head smashed open on a dashboard.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based, I got t-boned once by a truck full of mexicans running a red light at like 40mph, pretty sure the side curtain airbags saved my life

        I don't get people who refuse to wear seatbelts it's the stupidest shit, hope they have a moment of clarity when their head goes out the windshield

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          ummm but like uhhhhh the seatbelt is well.... UNCOMFY!

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    this tacticool crap is so cringe
    >DUDE I got a TACTICAL collar for my TACTICAL puppy he's so TACTICAL I'm going to get him a matching plate carrier like mine so we can go on TACTICAL walks and so TACTICAL drills together he's going to be the best guard dog ever

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      selling to insecure small dick larps is an amazingly profitable industry

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I need to grab my dog for some reason I just grab him by the fur.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Collars are for people that can’t train a dog in a harness. Usually too poor/dumb to use an ecollar and invested into a certain aesthetic.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ecollars are horrible for training dude

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.lennie24.de/hund/hundehalsbaender/rollschnalle/hetzhalsband-mit-griff-38/50-mm-biothane#6500b558bb23dab7b0df7f8007848ac1

      certanly the one in your pick is a gimmick and outright dangerous. those cobra buckles are tryhard as they come and have no real application other than looking OPERATOR even for people. you want to cut down on metal/plastic on your dog as much as you can. I had a YT link to a vid of a dog falling when playing and getting a 4 fingers wide cut on their flank from one. don't be a cosplaying mall ninja.

      link related, a good, low cost, slim collar with a handle. good for training. but for dog on dog play, you should use one/the same without the handle. again, dog's have gotten their limbs trapped in other dog's collars/harnesses and have again gottne hurt like that.

      it's th other way around, harnesses are for people who ahve untrained dogs.

      ecollars are horrible for training dude

      ecollars are the best training tool there is. but it's use IRL is literally a warcrime because most dog trainers are Cesar Milan tier shitskins. gist is, almost nobody needs them and almost everybody who tries does not have the brains to use them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        How do you get cut from a cobra buckle? I've used them for years (on myself) and I'd say they're the safest metal buckle out there in terms of having almost no snag points

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          by falling on them at very high speeds...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Unless you're talking about shitty chinese knockoff cobra buckles there's literally no sharp edges or points, you'd much sooner get cut on the nylon webbing the buckle is sewn on

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              any hard object that impacts you can cause a "cut". to be more precise, a tear. you do not need edges for that. this also happens with plastic fittings.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cobra buckles were literally designed for climbing in the first place and explicitly never to cut or snag, I'd bet money the dog got cut on the collar fabric itself and not because of the buckle

                By your logic dogs will get cut on any metal buckle, even regular traditional belt-type buckles which I've cut myself on way too many times to count

                >Most police k9s are on a choke chain or pinch, neither of which I agree with
                Not here but this is a department where the literal boomers are retired and the younger people have some sense instead of being TACTICAL. I've seen a pinch collar used twice and that's because they can move and hurt at the same time for a really aggressive animal. For softer dogs it's overkill and a real risk if they're retarded enough to jump against it - or as a very short chud looking ex-cartel member has demonstrated on national TV, bred to pull. This can un-train your dog. Remember to train the dog that is in front of you and not "how dogs are fucking meant to be". Breeding determines personality, training works with it.
                >Couple hundred years
                For a couple hundred years no one figured out pavlov and someone thought they could teach dogs to speak german. No need to control the neck alone, the collar goes to the base of the neck when you use it for control anyways like a shittier harness.
                >Head halter
                I only see retarded women using these because that is what they are for. Even a skinny man should be able to control an adult male GSD's entire body with a harness. I have seen sub-5'10" manlets yank 100lb malamutes in harnesses back to them. Being a man is important to being a dog owner. Head halters use neck pain (the kind that builds up into neck disorders) to control pulling dogs for women who are too stupid to work with the dogs mind and too weak to work with the dogs body. As always when you give women authority over men or masculine things it causes some damage because they don't naturally deserve it.

                Head halters are for aggressive/reactive dogs, if you have a dog like that head halter will give you total control over their head if they're meeting another dog or person and decide to lunge or bite. With a harness you're fucked because the dog has total control over their neck and head

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >not strong enough
                Ok lady

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ecollars are the best training tool there is

        Wrong.
        Ecollars enforce a set of conditions and apply a type of stimulus that's incredibly difficult to fade out, dogs trained on ecollars are reliant on ecollars to perform

        There's nothing that you can train with an ecollar that you can't with a plain flat collar

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Aren’t E-Collars specifically for working conditions where like the dog is simply to far to come back to you or stop what it’s doing with its instinctual drive to herd or hunt or something. Don’t they usually track as well for that reason

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes they're usually for hunting/gundogs where the dogs sometimes need to work like a mile away from the handler, but even then a lot of people use a plain GPS collar and radio for commands. The whole shock aspect is totally unnecessary.

          I can't think of any other situation where they'd be any better than a regular collar for reinforcement and corrections

          My dogs just behave on the flat collars, I just haven’t had to bother with much else. If my dog didn’t behave I’d go to a harness since I’ve seen it work wonders on my friends rescues and pound dogs but idk mine just learn as puppies how to properly walk on a flat collar.

          I once had a dog that had a weird reflex to snap at another dog when I pulled on the flat collar, probably should’ve switched to harness bevauSe she never did if I just gripped my body around her and pulled her away. She usually finishes her sniffs fine but if the other dog was uncomfortable or the owner was I’d have to pull her back and she’d “rawr”

          That sounds like a reactivity issue and something that developed with a negative association to flat collar corrections

          What was the original post, Mexicans are either the best dog owners or the worst goddamn owners alive I live in Texas and I believe this. Once had to explain to my Mexican friend from Mexico that he can’t just beat the shit out of a puppy when it pisses and that’s why his puppy pisses when it’s scared and he was astounded. Like he had just never seen any other way, he listened to me but the dog was too far gone. I almost adopted it because it clung to me everytime I was over but I lived with my parents. I told him he lost any opportunity of punishing it when it peed and he could only use scheduling and positive reinforcement from here until it got better since it would pee at the slightest sign of anger from a human even if we were mad at a video game

          Long story short he went to some other Mexican kids and said want a dog? And they said si and so long to snoop.

          That's so fucked up, my mexican neighbors used to run a pitbull puppy mill and they'd punish their dogs by crating them and spraying them down with water and leaving them to freeze in the middle of winter overnight, they'd be crying all night. I don't understand how such soulless fucks can exist, if they treat dogs like that imagine what they do with their kids

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Harnesses are for dogs that aren't trained or puppies, not for training dogs

      Ecollars have very specific working applications and should not ever be used for general obedience training

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        See you think you need a collar because it shows your dog will never pull and choke itself. You’re invested in an aesthetic. But if you have to grab the dog away and hoist it up because it’s being attacked or if a trail crumbles in the woods, with a collar, you are fucked. Look at most police k9s… harness. You see a collar as a way to show off. Thats not correct. Also, many dogs will appear better behaved in collars because flat collars HURT to pull against.

        E collars are the best training tool ever devised and the low and vibration settings dont even hurt. All other punishments and “training tools” are outdated and ineffective compared to the e-collar. You can not hurt a dog with an e collar unless you go way out of your way to torture it, but you could do that with your hands too so ban hands? Lol liberals.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          prong collars with the triangular links hurt less to pull against than normal collars. trust me, i tried it.

          retards think having an irate dog that “behaves” to avoid hurting itself is training. this is probably why so many big dogs bite people. walk your dog in a harness and use the correct kind of collar for training. One hand on the harness leash the other hand on the collar controls.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Most police k9s are on a choke chain or pinch, neither of which I agree with

          You shouldn't rely on a flat collar for everyday use but it's good to train on and has been for the last couple hundred years, also it allows control of the dog's neck in an emergency whereas with a harness you have no control over anything shoulder-up

          Better yet would be a head halter for training

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Most police k9s are on a choke chain or pinch, neither of which I agree with
            Not here but this is a department where the literal boomers are retired and the younger people have some sense instead of being TACTICAL. I've seen a pinch collar used twice and that's because they can move and hurt at the same time for a really aggressive animal. For softer dogs it's overkill and a real risk if they're retarded enough to jump against it - or as a very short chud looking ex-cartel member has demonstrated on national TV, bred to pull. This can un-train your dog. Remember to train the dog that is in front of you and not "how dogs are fucking meant to be". Breeding determines personality, training works with it.
            >Couple hundred years
            For a couple hundred years no one figured out pavlov and someone thought they could teach dogs to speak german. No need to control the neck alone, the collar goes to the base of the neck when you use it for control anyways like a shittier harness.
            >Head halter
            I only see retarded women using these because that is what they are for. Even a skinny man should be able to control an adult male GSD's entire body with a harness. I have seen sub-5'10" manlets yank 100lb malamutes in harnesses back to them. Being a man is important to being a dog owner. Head halters use neck pain (the kind that builds up into neck disorders) to control pulling dogs for women who are too stupid to work with the dogs mind and too weak to work with the dogs body. As always when you give women authority over men or masculine things it causes some damage because they don't naturally deserve it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            My dogs just behave on the flat collars, I just haven’t had to bother with much else. If my dog didn’t behave I’d go to a harness since I’ve seen it work wonders on my friends rescues and pound dogs but idk mine just learn as puppies how to properly walk on a flat collar.

            I once had a dog that had a weird reflex to snap at another dog when I pulled on the flat collar, probably should’ve switched to harness bevauSe she never did if I just gripped my body around her and pulled her away. She usually finishes her sniffs fine but if the other dog was uncomfortable or the owner was I’d have to pull her back and she’d “rawr”

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