First Dog Burial

Art depicting the earliest known instance of canine burial from Paleolithic Germany circa 14000 years ago.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >germans were kissing dogs 14,000 years ago in their mud huts
    >meds were petting cats in their great stone cities

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Meds also had dogs, mind you. Most of the worst dog breeds we have today were started by them. They had horrible taste in pets and now their civilization is in shambles and they are genetically incapable of rebuilding it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Meds: Brutus is a gud boy it's the owner not the dog. He's never hurt my kitty cat meowsius.
        >Oh he mauled a slave. Big deal. He is of noble blood and fought the barbarians. Plebeian.

        >Germanics: Die wulf mein wife
        >ja ja ja
        >let's light room on fire
        >room? did that last week
        >ROME.
        >JA!

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      they also ate people

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      did you know that in much of the world dogs acted in the same role as pigs did, as scrap recyclers that would then be eaten? It was practiced alongside keeping them as pets, often, in fact. Completely normal.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      doesn't count since those people are descended from proto-asians and never evolved empathy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >iberians
          What you’re saying is uncivilized people eat dogs

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous
            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Anon keeps getting BTFO.
              Nice.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >19th century
              Like I said, uncivilized people.

              Humans are not an intelligent species. They haven't been civilized until the early 21st century, when atheism started taking over about half of the world population and social progress finally began setting in and extremely basic shit started to spread across the globe:
              Age of consent
              Womens rights
              Anti-racism
              Actual morals not based on being afraid of imaginary people throwing you into an underground volcano after you miraculously live on after death

              Look at the history of 19th and 20th century germany and tell me they were civilized people.

              Humans are not a naturally intelligent or civil species. They are murder-rape apes that talk.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                unironically true.
                https://www.vrc.crim.cam.ac.uk/system/files/documents/manuel-eisner-historical-trends-in-violence.pdf
                if you were born in the 90s or later you don't know how good it actually is now. if you're a vampire you might be confused by how you can just call someone a "stupid frick" and not be forced to either fight them to the death or await their horrible revenge, probably acted out by harming your entire family.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                unironically true.
                https://www.vrc.crim.cam.ac.uk/system/files/documents/manuel-eisner-historical-trends-in-violence.pdf
                if you were born in the 90s or later you don't know how good it actually is now. if you're a vampire you might be confused by how you can just call someone a "stupid frick" and not be forced to either fight them to the death or await their horrible revenge, probably acted out by harming your entire family.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >uncivilized people eat dogs
              >germans
              checks out
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_war_crimes
              dog eating is strongly correlated with crimes against humanity.
              civilizations do not grow out of one without growing out of the other, because the same level of empathy required to treat dogs with some respect is the same level of empathy required to treat strangers and foreigners with some respect.
              humans naturally kill and rape strangers. this was the STANDARD behavior for most of human history. any lone stranger, especially a foreigner, was robbed and killed, and if they were a woman they were taken as a bride and raped. entire civilizations were built on this activity.
              rural china eats dogs = china is full of human rights abuses mostly centered around the rural class and people who have recently been elevated out of it

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Why does that paragrah read like it's been ai-generated?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              the absolute state of germans. had no idea they were so backwards

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                the entirety of germanic civilization was founded on going around and robbing and murdering everyone else in europe and everything good you associate with them was either done by ashkenazi israelites or the few "effeminate" teutonics who stayed home and nerded out. the original term for them was "the barbarians", anon. did you miss the ww1 and ww2 affairs where they tried to destroy the world and committed enough atrocities to make america and soviet russia look like the good guys?

                killing most likely stolen dogs for a quick buck is actually one of the less bad things they did.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Based aztecs breeding dogs for both eating and punting
      Frick chihuahuas

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Shut up homosexual, Colima dog descendants are unfathomably based and more Intel and useful than Huskies, PITBULLS, and Collies

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >puts pitbulls in to make himself appear right at a glance

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >deflects statement because I was on his ass and he doesn’t want to take responsibilities

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              My collie will herd your aztec rats directly into the maws of pitbulls lying in wait

              Meanwhile my husky will be preheating the oven and chopping vegetables

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Do you have a problem with this group of dogs and this family? Then you’re a fricking weirdo

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They weren't Aztecs. The dog eater coprolites predate even the evolution of proto-uto-aztecan

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >"I am in tears, while carrying you to your last resting place as much as I rejoiced when bringing you home in my own hands fifteen years ago."

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Ancient germans did not look like that

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      ???

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    man sees dog as an obedient, useful, yet rather sentient tool. man respects dog and appreciates his company. unlike man, dog is loyal. dog dies, man is sad.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous
  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This was likely done so larger predators wouldn't be attracted to their migratory sites, not because they honored them

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldnt expect cat owners to understand

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Then they would be treated like the food scraps instead of given their own burial site complete with strong implications of ritual like grave markers. moron.

      "Actually humans don't hug because they like each other. They're showing dominance, but when they are of the opposite sex they are soliciting or offering breast milk, dumb verms"

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      they were buried with their owners. you might as well blame our burial customs on that as well, it won't make you look like less of a miserable nihilistic moron

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder if they were buried as grave goods? items to signify status and community role rather than as companions

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          You are really desperate for people not to like the only other non-primate on earth that is truly socially compatible with us, huh.

          Do you think neolithic man, who has wholly unable to purposefully domesticate animals until thousands of years later, had purposefully domesticated the dog as a "tool" 40,000 years ago? I think it's far more likely they held religious significance or just liked them, while the wolves were willing participants. Exactly how cats were domesticated in africa. There are still dogs that resemble the first ones alive today (akitas, huskies, shibas, malamutes) and they tell the whole story. These dogs weren't slaves. Their "job" was the stuff they already naturally did. That was how dogs were for tens of thousands of years.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            no not at all; I'm simply aware that cultural attitudes towards dogs vary around the world, and could have been very different in the paleolithic//mesolithic//neolithic etc - it could have also been treated with such respect as some kind of signifier of the emergent societies transition from the "wild" whole to the socialised other that man was becoming - with the dogs that joined us on this journey being highly symbolic. Dogs were present at sites of human habitation in this era without being fully domesticated. So possibly it would have been quite hard to form a very close personal bond with one.
            All I'm saying is we don't know, and whilst simple affection between a human and a dog is a great explanation, it could be wrong or only part of the answer

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              You are thinking of things like a modern man. A man who has his dogs mass produced elsewhere as ugly, mentally ill mutants that just do one thing, sometimes of questionable necessity. And he pays a lot of money for these.

              Ancient man did not have the knowledge to even begin to make that arrangement where dogs were an expensive mark of an upper classman who hunts for sport. He was most likely far more religious than logical, and the with the way he lived with dogs, any dog or even a wild wolf could do.

              >Dogs were present at sites of human habitation in this era without being fully domesticated. So possibly it would have been quite hard to form a very close personal bond with one.
              No, it's not hard at all. That's why they were able to self domesticate. It's actually piss easy to bond with a wild wolf, and even easier to bond with a primitive dog. The extra domestication that was missing was mostly
              >Deformities: floppy ears and whatnot
              >Mental illness: Obsessive behavior and seeing humans as the actual parental figure improves obedience
              >Unfortunate disorders: A hormonal disorder makes dogs unable to sate their hunger, so they can be infinitely motivated by expecting food
              Not really stuff that was essential for bonding. Stuff that was essential for more specific and niche use. These dogs were most likely more companions than workers and were "used" as much as the other humans in the tribe. You can try this yourself. Wolfdogs actually make great pets if they are allowed space and you don't mind the "other tribe" (people they have never seen before) getting mauled.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >dog isnt a golden retriever so its hard to bond with!
              have you ever interacted with a primitive breed or a wolfdog once in your life

              i actually feel less empathy for a "highly domesticated" retriever or mastiff or something because i can't see any soul in them. they're born programmed to worship me for no real reason.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            my use of the term tool was dreadful however - scavenging dogs around carcass process sites and camps would have been useful in deterring other animals - the dog was a tool of circumstance

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      they'd fricking eat it then

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What makes you so sure?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Highly ritualized, marker stones, clearly done with a great deal of respect and ceremony
      >No but-
      Fricking moron.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >This was likely done so larger predators wouldn't be attracted to their migratory sites
      Would one dead puppy actually make a difference to large predators? Also aren't migratory sites typically used depending on season? My logic dictates that such a small singular morsel wouldn't make a large predator stick around and the next time those Homos return would be weeks if not months in the future.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe thats how burials started.
      >Burb died, grug and kruk were attacked by howls last week. White night god is angry.
      >Grug put dead burb inside ground
      >Grug wasn't attacked last night, white night god is happy
      But to asume it had no ritualistic meaning after years of doing it is moronic.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >My eyes were wet with tears, our little dog, when I bore thee (to the grave)... So, Patricus, never again shall thou give me a thousand kisses. Never canst thou be contentedly in my lap. In sadness have I buried thee, and thou deservist. In a resting place of marble, I have put thee for all time by the side of my shade. In thy qualities, sagacious thou wert like a human being. Ah, me! What a loved companion have we lost!

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they keep getting older

    i wonder how many dog/human burials from 20-40,000 years ago didn't make it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >i wonder how many dog/human burials from 20-40,000 years ago didn't make it
      most of them

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    he must have been a good boy

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I was told he was the best.

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