A lot of gays ITT who can’t understand the difference between cruelty and discipline
I would say that cruelty against animals is inherently unjust, animals probably don’t act on malice and are almost definitely incapable of understanding complex human behavior or concepts like justice. They largely act on instinct.
There isn’t really anything that an animal can do that would justify a cruel form of punishment since any act of malice performed by an animal is most likely an entirely natural, instinctual action
If you think that basic discipline is unjust because it forces animals to conform to human nature, then so is the very nature of domestication. Go eat some nuts and beans or something fag
If I'm being attacked by a dangerous animal, you better believe I'm gonna defend myself and do whatever I can to get it away from me, even if it hurts the animal.
You should always take all the steps necessary to avoid an attack, but if all else fails I'm not going down without a fight (assuming it's feasible)
yes, a net reduction in suffering. I'm sure if you just ran over a cat the suffering would probably be less than the suffering it inflicts routinely out of boredom.
Its alright if its for the purpose of eating. Like how asians boil octopus alive or eat live baby rats. Its the only way to garantee its fresh and yummy so its justified.
We make it impersonal because ultimately we all know it's wrong, except for the troglodytes working the lowest jobs, i think they enjoy it (see crime and slaughterhouses)
The difference is china is confidently and consistently evil instead.
Asians are actually based for getting up close and personal with their meat, like how I always slit the throats of my chicken before scalding them alive.
Still, a trained animal will "tell" right from wrong because he associates that action with your negative reaction to it, not because he thinks its morally wrong like humans do
That’s all any moral that is not a direct consequence of having empathy is to people as well, especially autistics who are cognizant of it and aren’t as emotionally affected by the unconscious knowledge. If anything the truly moral normies have an experience more like an animals here. They dont think about it, it’s just wrong and just right.
Define cruelty?
Spanking, being violent or domineering in a physical manner to show you aren't to be fucked with? I don't think that is cruelty.
Burning a dog and then beating it with a shovel till it is dead? Vacuum sealing two kittens in a plastic bag? Yes, that is cruelty and shouldn't be allowed.
I used to throw kittens into a pilow 10 feet across my room when they put electrical cables in their mouth. They don't mess with them anymore.
That isn't typically why people are cruel to animals. If you keep rubbing a dog's nose in its own shit that it leaves on the bedroom floor, it somehow has the ability to know it is wrong to do. Go figure.
moron you threw a kitten across the room hoping the pillow would turn broken bones into painful sprained joints
That is not telling them no, that’s the definition of a chimp out.
>you threw a kitten across the room hoping the pillow would turn broken bones into painful sprained joints
This is delusion ^
1. you weren't there, double moron gay
2. you don't know how hard I threw them
3 spare the rod, spoil the child.
4 I forget the rest butt you are probably a whore.
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>oo oo ah ah ah
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Demonstrating your loose grip on reality, with ironic images as well. Poetic.
Satan approaches me with a deal "I will funnel wealth and prosperity into your life..." and goes on explaining very slick and charismatic fashion how I will have the luck and privilege of the likes of Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk where people and governments will literally throw billions of dollars at me by having his demons manage my businesses and accounts and make deepfake videos giving amazing speeches to the masses. I'll become among the wealthiest men on Earth.
But there's a price in the devil deal, there always is. Satan knows that I love cats and that I would never do harm to one. Satan tells me that I have to do is stomp on a precious healthy baby kitten with all my might and the riches are mine. I don't think I could do it, I feel myself welling up with emotion just typing these words.
I could proceed to starting an organization where I pour all this money into helping people and animals, being a total humanitarian organization, but it would never cleanse my guilty conscience. I do not think the ends justify the means. Maybe I'm too selfish, my hypothetical organization could've treated your sick relative that couldn't be saved otherwise.
That's called being based anon, there's more to life than wealth. Life, happiness, good times, joy, these are all things that can be achieved with no wealth. You can travel being rich, but that's doesn't change the fact that life is above all things existing with a purpose that is not being wealthy.
Anyways, money is overrated.
Why not do it? A simple exchange that brings many blessings. And not just for you, but the world.
You said it yourself, you would funnel money back into helping people.
One cat for the ability to help everyone. This shouldn’t even be a discussion
Yep you're a gay.
Ultimately you could end up saving millions of doomed kittens and cats in exchange for one but since you're a woman emotionally you can't recognize this.
you're still going to hell for making a deal with satan
Yep you're a gay.
Ultimately you could end up saving millions of doomed kittens and cats in exchange for one but since you're a woman emotionally you can't recognize this.
Christian doctrine says animals are at the service of men so killing one to favor your community is the right thing to do >but muh satan said
If you can get satan to do good, you won. Its that simple
>magical storybook says some nonsensical thing that is very convenient for the people that wrote it >therefore you should be evil
enjoy reincarnating as one of those slugs that turns female if it loses a penis duel
NEDM
Depends on the animal. Cute and cool animals no. It is literally always morally correct to kill spoders
One word: CHIHUAHUA.
No form of cruelty is ever justified in any situation
It's fun. Let people enjoy things.
If I had to choose between letting a person enjoy things and letting an animal enjoy not being abused I would choose the latter
Found the fascist.
Got a problem?
Yes.
Thanks a lot OP, it's stuck in my head now and reading these replies is making me feel old.
NEDM
Monkeys deserve it
Nothing justifies animal cruelty
Not even doom music
classic
Cruelty specifically means it's not necessary. So the only possible answer is no.
A lot of gays ITT who can’t understand the difference between cruelty and discipline
I would say that cruelty against animals is inherently unjust, animals probably don’t act on malice and are almost definitely incapable of understanding complex human behavior or concepts like justice. They largely act on instinct.
There isn’t really anything that an animal can do that would justify a cruel form of punishment since any act of malice performed by an animal is most likely an entirely natural, instinctual action
“Discipline” is an instinctive reaction to humans.
>MONKE HIERARCHY NOT FOLLOWED! HIT! SHOUT! HIT! OOOOK OOOOOOOOK OOOOOOOOK
Thats why you get so heated over it.
If you think that basic discipline is unjust because it forces animals to conform to human nature, then so is the very nature of domestication. Go eat some nuts and beans or something fag
>Basic discipline
>throwing kittens and hitting things
you're just being a chimp
He's just following his instincts bro. When things don't listen to the boss chimp, it hits them and throws shit, and then it feels good.
I feel sorry for you two. I really do.
Drop the act, pity is beyond you.
You talk like a gay
>oo oo ah ah ah
youre a retard
cats justify animal cruelty because they are gays who deserve to suffer
No but I see a lot of people on this site move the goalpost for it depending on whether they like the animal or not
hunger
Why does animal cruelty need any justification?
doom
If its a pitbull you can just kill it in self defense if it moves towards you
If I'm being attacked by a dangerous animal, you better believe I'm gonna defend myself and do whatever I can to get it away from me, even if it hurts the animal.
You should always take all the steps necessary to avoid an attack, but if all else fails I'm not going down without a fight (assuming it's feasible)
but that's not cruelty? cruelty is unjust.
yes, a net reduction in suffering. I'm sure if you just ran over a cat the suffering would probably be less than the suffering it inflicts routinely out of boredom.
Its alright if its for the purpose of eating. Like how asians boil octopus alive or eat live baby rats. Its the only way to garantee its fresh and yummy so its justified.
i'm pretty sure they actually beat the already dead octopus to destroy the cells.
Western fishers also do that, but when the octopus is alive. It tenderizes the meat.
Nowadays freezing it will achieve the same purpose
i know we love to hate asians but the western factory faming system is equally as cruel for animals
We make it impersonal because ultimately we all know it's wrong, except for the troglodytes working the lowest jobs, i think they enjoy it (see crime and slaughterhouses)
The difference is china is confidently and consistently evil instead.
It’s wrong? Prove it.
Asians are actually based for getting up close and personal with their meat, like how I always slit the throats of my chicken before scalding them alive.
No, animals do not have the ability to tell right from wrong, you have no reason to be cruel to them
doesn't stop people for hurting them though?
Neither do autistic humans unless you raise them to. Right and wrong are one part culture one part monke instincts.
Still, a trained animal will "tell" right from wrong because he associates that action with your negative reaction to it, not because he thinks its morally wrong like humans do
That’s all any moral that is not a direct consequence of having empathy is to people as well, especially autistics who are cognizant of it and aren’t as emotionally affected by the unconscious knowledge. If anything the truly moral normies have an experience more like an animals here. They dont think about it, it’s just wrong and just right.
Define cruelty?
Spanking, being violent or domineering in a physical manner to show you aren't to be fucked with? I don't think that is cruelty.
Burning a dog and then beating it with a shovel till it is dead? Vacuum sealing two kittens in a plastic bag? Yes, that is cruelty and shouldn't be allowed.
I used to throw kittens into a pilow 10 feet across my room when they put electrical cables in their mouth. They don't mess with them anymore.
That isn't typically why people are cruel to animals. If you keep rubbing a dog's nose in its own shit that it leaves on the bedroom floor, it somehow has the ability to know it is wrong to do. Go figure.
>traumatizing an animal to discipline it
You're a cruel retard who should not own pets
>traumatizing
Do you remember the first time you were told no?
moron you threw a kitten across the room hoping the pillow would turn broken bones into painful sprained joints
That is not telling them no, that’s the definition of a chimp out.
lol, your are so unhinged it is funny.
>oo oo ah ah ah
ok travis off the computer now
>you threw a kitten across the room hoping the pillow would turn broken bones into painful sprained joints
This is delusion ^
1. you weren't there, double moron gay
2. you don't know how hard I threw them
3 spare the rod, spoil the child.
4 I forget the rest butt you are probably a whore.
>oo oo ah ah ah
Demonstrating your loose grip on reality, with ironic images as well. Poetic.
Right and wrong doesn’t exist.
>baby's first Nietzsche
Nah, life comes with plenty of built-in cruelties already.
Satan approaches me with a deal "I will funnel wealth and prosperity into your life..." and goes on explaining very slick and charismatic fashion how I will have the luck and privilege of the likes of Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk where people and governments will literally throw billions of dollars at me by having his demons manage my businesses and accounts and make deepfake videos giving amazing speeches to the masses. I'll become among the wealthiest men on Earth.
But there's a price in the devil deal, there always is. Satan knows that I love cats and that I would never do harm to one. Satan tells me that I have to do is stomp on a precious healthy baby kitten with all my might and the riches are mine. I don't think I could do it, I feel myself welling up with emotion just typing these words.
I could proceed to starting an organization where I pour all this money into helping people and animals, being a total humanitarian organization, but it would never cleanse my guilty conscience. I do not think the ends justify the means. Maybe I'm too selfish, my hypothetical organization could've treated your sick relative that couldn't be saved otherwise.
That's called being based anon, there's more to life than wealth. Life, happiness, good times, joy, these are all things that can be achieved with no wealth. You can travel being rich, but that's doesn't change the fact that life is above all things existing with a purpose that is not being wealthy.
Anyways, money is overrated.
Poor cope
Why not do it? A simple exchange that brings many blessings. And not just for you, but the world.
You said it yourself, you would funnel money back into helping people.
One cat for the ability to help everyone. This shouldn’t even be a discussion
have a nice day satan
you're still going to hell for making a deal with satan
Yep you're a gay.
Ultimately you could end up saving millions of doomed kittens and cats in exchange for one but since you're a woman emotionally you can't recognize this.
I’m pretty sure you go to Hell if you take that deal, despite it not being explicitly sated in the post.
Christian doctrine says animals are at the service of men so killing one to favor your community is the right thing to do
>but muh satan said
If you can get satan to do good, you won. Its that simple
>magical storybook says some nonsensical thing that is very convenient for the people that wrote it
>therefore you should be evil
enjoy reincarnating as one of those slugs that turns female if it loses a penis duel
>I’ll be the guy that made a deal with Satan and didn’t lose my soul!
Let me know how that works out for you.