Learning the harsh truth about bears made me burn my "Why a Son Needs a Dad" and my "Why a Daughter Needs a Dad" book, because of the mythical "papa bear" on the cover.
Of course, we know penguins are the best.
Best & Worst Animal Fathers
Learning the harsh truth about bears made me burn my "Why a Son Needs a Dad" and my "Why a Daughter Needs a Dad" book, because of the mythical "papa bear" on the cover.
Of course, we know penguins are the best.
Moids are the worst, simple as
Gorillas are actually good dads
Yea sure, the 1% of them who sticks around with they shawty
Wow does this board have a tranny/feminist mod? Absolutely spiteful hole retardation being posted here and anyone critical of it gets their posts deleted/banned.
Just wanna say, THANK GOD I AM NOT A WOMAN. Imagine being that fucking useless and retard.
This falls under incoherent screeching.
Cry about it.
I'm sure my posts will be deleted any time now.
i thought grizzly were brown not black
Heh
>oversocialized urban retard that anthropomorphizes animals
all bears are cannibalistic, yes
also even female bears will eat the cubs of other bears, black bears are especially bad about it
I mean why hate on animals for it when whores literally get knocked up on schedule and run to the abortion clinic
>/pol/tard comes to Wauf
>instantly seethes about women
Every fucking time.
This. He stands out so hard cause most of us are mature 30+ year old men with wives and families.
I thought Wauf was mostly Waufime loving girls?
Nature should stop incest.
Male cassowaries incubate and raise their chicks by themselves.
That's pretty weird for the most violent bird on earth
>most violent bird on earth
Most attractive bird for women then.
All ratites are like that. They live in a role reversal society where males are the sole caretakers of their offspring and females are expected to court and compete to mate with them.
The consequences of being a bird who can't fly...
Surely you jest.
>stain
Is that why they sometimes kill their young?
>Female bears are sluts
>Male bears pump-and-dump
Seems normal to me.
bears are sluts
Female bears raise they cubs, they mama bears, delete your post
mama sluts
Now, which of the good animal fathers also
avoid sexing their daughters.
All animals will commit incest when they feel the need to bust a nut.
This is so depressing.
>Chuddie meltdown, the thread.
These are hardly your poor lil innocent chuddies. They are CHUDCELS.
Are you telling me these grizzly dads don't even go to their son's baseball games? Yeesh! Republicans have gone too far!
i probably have a hundred bastard children across asia
what does that make me?
An Internet liar.
How is the male bear a bad father if the female bear is a slut who is fucking around with multiple males? Maybe female bears are bad mothers because they don't allow stable father figures into their cubs' lives.
>Fuck off because the mother will attempt to kill you
>You are a bad father
that isn't really exclusive to grizzly bears that's the norm
are we really ascribing human social roles to animals who have no reason to follow them?
But... if we're nothing but evolved animals... where do "morals" come from?
Delusions weaponized to ensure the survival of a highly social species
If it has practical application to ensure survival then it's not exactly a delusion, no?
From Allah!
From you.
Literally nobody said morals are universal.
You're right, anon.
The guy who believes it is okay to torture 1 year olds for fun isn't doing anything wrong. Nope no such things as universal morals, no sir.
Sadly, it's true though. Luckily majority of people think torturing a 1 year old is awful and will punish them for it. That is what morals is, collectivized judgement.
> Any act or viewpoint is permissible/valid as long as enough people say so.
The whole world can say that 1 + 1 = 3, but that does not make it so.
First off I never said it was permissible or valid.
Second there's a hard difference between math and morality. One is part of human perception the other is a social construct aka a spook.
>b-but most mammals are patriarchal!!!! S-so that's the way it SHOULD be!!!! That's the n-NATCHURAL way!!!
>oh yeah???well most invertebrates are the opposite!!! So maube THATS the way it SHOULD be!!!
Maybe we should all strive to be kind and compassionate to one another. If you genuinely believe that one gender is 'better', that one gender should be 'dominant' than the other, then you're a shit-for-brains NPC.
Congratulations, you've managed to do precisely what anon asked you not to. Great reading comprehension there.
morally bad things are bad because bad things happen when you do them
>but hurdur why rape and killing bad? me nihilistic objectivist, nothing matter
Wolves supposedly are good fathers. Cockroaches too. The papa bear it's a thing from goldilocks, it's like expecting pigs building houses in real life.
>Wolves supposedly are good fathers.
Why dogs aren't?
Not an expert but I'll take a stab. Dogs are pack animals, but aren't *generational* pack animals due to their cohabitation with humans. It is essential for wolves' survival to maintain pack cohesion over generations, which means deadbeat/violent dads get the boot one way or another. But if any wolf experts would like to step in & refute, I'd like to hear it.
Here's a good dad. Male gharials breed with a bunch of females and look after all their babies themselves.
>gharials
Wow, never even heard of them. Those guys look so weird!
Historically talking men had prevented women from education and treated them like maids. It is like tying someone's feet then laugh at them because they cannot walk. There is plenty of women inventors and scientists in modern day. In fact you see how other mammals proof my argument. Commonly there is one XY with "harem" if you will. He must be aggression and stronger than other XY and that's all, his only use is for spreading semen. Even for humans girl is more common than a boy. XY has only one job to do.
>being this incorrect and ignorant
you owe all of civilization to men
literally all of it.
Maybe but they are still controlled by women. Men are biologically coded to be simps and almost all of their actions are in pursuit of a mate or to impress a mate. Females have mate choice and therefore more power, in most of human society. That's just the world we live in.
Slavery and arranged marriages exist.
That's why I said most. But in their natural state what I said is true. Strict rules need to be enforced for systems like arranged marriages to work.
And that's why everyone's suddenly gay now, everyone's tired of dealing with womxn
Which animal fathers are the most gay because they don't want to deal with their females?
>biologically coded to be simps
sounds like a you problem
Dumb moid
Terrible bait
Human's closest genetic species (bonobos) are matriarchal. And so is the head human subspecies (israelites)
>Hard truth is, XYs are not really useful after they spread their semen. In majority of animals that is the only purpose. Even in human the XY lives shorter life and causes nearly all the trouble. You see it in, colony insects where XYs is only produced soon before Queen dies and they do not last long after mating. Otherwise they serve purpose. Other proof is Parthogen animals where there is only female sex. They get by fine relying on random mutation for genetic difference. Well, to be fair they are more simple creatures normally. To be honest it is hard to think of any "good" father among the animals... I suppose it would be some bird or another.
African bullfrogs are top tier dads.
>Often, they fight, causing injury or even killing one another. The dominant male attempts to prevent other males from breeding. A female approaches the group of males by swimming along at the surface until she is within a few metres of the group. Then, the female dives to avoid the smaller males and surfaces in the defended area of a larger male in the middle of the group. This helps to ensure that she mates with the dominant male.[15][17]
Literally avoiding the betas who just want to tell her she's beautiful and they would be nice to her.
Hard truth is, XYs are not really useful after they spread their semen. In majority of animals that is the only purpose. Even in human the XY lives shorter life and causes nearly all the trouble. You see it in, colony insects where XYs is only produced soon before Queen dies and they do not last long after mating. Otherwise they serve purpose. Other proof is Parthogen animals where there is only female sex. They get by fine relying on random mutation for genetic difference. Well, to be fair they are more simple creatures normally. To be honest it is hard to think of any "good" father among the animals... I suppose it would be some bird or another.
XYbros... how do we come back from this? All we good for is spreading our semen yet 9/10 of us Wauf XY's never even had sex to begin with...
Bowing to a purpose is cucked.
>XYs
Just say men/males you fucking homosexual
Too much implications in that. Besides, it is fewer letters.
Like how boys have a penis, girls have a vagina?
hyenas
big vagina
Some males of insect species have a semen sack inside them and the female penetrates the male to collect It
Explain the implications without being a retarded liberal about it? Go on, I'm waiting
>colony insects where XYs is only produced soon before Queen dies
Social insects don’t work this way. Bees, wasps, and ants only have one sex chromosome; with females having a pair and males just having only one (unfertilized eggs produce males, fertilized eggs make females). The queen also produces males throughout her life, not just at the end.
Termites have weird and complicated sex chromosomes, also produce males throughout the queen’s life, and the males aren’t killed by fucking either like bees.
wait a second, does that mean every colony or hive insect male that fucks is a literal motherfucker? ew.
no no ant queens can produce both double and single chromosome males but workers can only produce single chromosome males leading to their supremely complicated geneology chart
while I dont agree with the "XY is useless" guy he is right colony males are generally useless to the overall function of the colony
Fun fact, on chickens females are the ones with odd chromosomes, not males.
Anyway sexual reproduction allows genes to be mixed and shuffled. By random mutation individual 1 get a beneficial trait A and individual 2 get beneficial trait B. Without sexual reproduction the only way for an individual getting both is their having the absurdly low chance of getting the exact same mutation the other had and then generations of natural selection and added mutations to optimize it like the other did. With sexual reproduction the individual genes are not tied to a single generational line and can move sideways by combining and mixing with other individuals.
That's only if you see child-rearing as "more useful" than being physically strong, building things, and fighting wars, which I'd argue it isn't, considering men are just as capable of raising children. If anything, females are the useless ones beyond providing milk, nevermind the semen thing.
Anon, that only applies to people who live in civilized societies. In the animal kingdom, the vast majority of males in a species do nothing other than coom. The females grow the baby, birth it or lay the eggs, raise the babies, and oftentimes end up sacrificing themselves for the babies. this is the animal kingdom, the natural world here, not human society
Seems disingenuous to say the males only coom when there's a sizeable chunk of the species pie that have to do elaborate stupid bullshit just to attract the females in the first place, things encouraged by the females in the first place by consistently choosing for it.
>incel mad he has to talk to girls and they won't fuck him just because he's a nice guy
They don't just coom, they carry out incomprehensible amounts of violence so that they, and they alone, can coom. Pre-state humans are like this as well.
Ugh, males are so violent.
women select for it to the point of trying to import men from nonstate societies. a rape fetish is as common among women as pedophilia is among men.
>Ancient Mexico
Huh
When wolves are waiting outside your door you'd change your tune real quick. Men have done such a fantastic job of making the world safe for women and children then now retards like you think men are unnecessary. Let's see a woman try to hunt for food in the winter snow without dying in the first few hours
>Let's see a woman try to hunt for food
Funny, this was actually debunked recently. Hunter-gatherer societies were actually both women and men doing the hunting. Lots and lots of evidence of kick-ass girls doing the hunting found this year.
True. And iirc, the first semi-sophisticated weaponised tools (more sophistaced that Ug throwing a rock at Oog, I mean) and hunting for meat were developed by women. The weapons for staving off predators and rapists and the hunting because Ungawa was hungry after she killed that charging rhino or whatever.
>Funny, this was actually debunked recently
>your quote, with a silly face next to it!
No argument? I except your concession.
>No argument? I except your concession.
>I except
lmao A+ bait had me going
There has been invention of the gun, you had maybe heard of it
So does that mean that the picture books "Why a Son/Daughter Needs a Dad" were wrong?
Pigeons are pretty great fathers too (really being present alone makes a father above average in the animal kingdom), and they can provide crop milk themselves so the parents can do rotations attending to the nest. A lot of the more familiar bird species have pretty good fathers.
Most of the worst fathers in the animal kingdom are going to be mammals, who generally exhibit greater rates of intraspecific violence. The bear lifestyle of living alone, only being social to mate, and then killing every other kid you can get your hands on seems to be shared among many other species. Even humans were depressingly close to this in some ways in pre-state societies.
>decent thread gets derailed within like 5 posts by someone who thinks their 12th grade understanding of biology is deep
As another anon pointed out, even calling males "XYs" is weird pseud shit since sex determination varies so widely among animals, wrong within 4 words.
>Pigeons are pretty great fathers too
they shit
Best Fathers: A handful of different birds would contend the title.
(Milk aside, pigeons might be too dumb compared to some monogamous species of raptors to be "best" imo)
Worst Fathers: The absentee drunks of the homosexuals that think Wauf is the place for a /misc/ human gender fight.
Xy's are literally the only reason you're able to type out this gay ass opinions fagboy.
Not you, though. You're a dud.
>OP posts about XY individuals' utility in most animal parental roles
>Human anons somehow feel attacked
Hmmm...
The most fucking stupid people I have ever encountered in my life are women. The second most stupid are effeminate simp "men."
the major reason for this is that it's a lot harder for male animals to be certain the offspring they're investing resources to raise are actually theirs.
That bear is exceedingly smug
This seems like standard wild animal dad behavior
Maybe seahorses are more your speed, soiboy