Americans literally live among giant fucking wingless dragons and no one bats an eye.
Americans literally live among giant fucking wingless dragons and no one bats an eye.
Americans literally live among giant fucking wingless dragons and no one bats an eye.
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Spotted this guy in Queensland Aus. Couldn't help but wonder how many of the farmers cattle go missing
Obviously not enough for them to want to put a fence around the lake/river
Daintree river, nearer to the coast where it's more like an estuary. I'm pretty sure the crocs are protected there these days, and I'm not sure a fence would stop them anyway. If not there anyway, guys in more outback areas definitely lose a few. Theres stations out there in the state that are 1.5 million hectares. Can't fence everything especially if it's the only thing around to drink from.
Salties take cattle all the time. Farmers pay croc catchers to catch and relocate them.
A 3m-4m saltie turned up on North Stradbrok Island today, hundreds of miles further south than where they're supposed to be, so that's interesting,
Man you’ll get a kick outa our parking lot moose.
Gators don't bother me much I would never fuck around and find out with a big one but fuck salties they are on another level.
Oh thats cute. Wonder how they'd fare againt a moose or grizzly or polar bear.
Don’t act like Yogi and Bullwinkle get a safe pass in the kiddie pool either.
Gators are bros 6ft and under no problem. 6ft plus stay away. They are chill most of the time.
Fuck won't post my pic.
That's definitely a croc IMO
An Alligator under the size of 8 ft wouldn't even try a mouse without ambushing it while it is drinking.
>ambush predator won’t do anything unless it’s ambushing
your wisdom astounds me
I think so too. Only saw it once while out there surveying.
If it weren't for crocodiles the burden of boomers would be worse.
No they don't. Chad crocodile mogs incel alligators by a mile. It's not even a competition
alligators bully american crocodiles out of any territory they crossover in.
it's why american crocs only exist in a tiny portion of southern florida.
why would I?
I keep hearing people say that alligators are afraid of human, but there's this one dumb motherfucker who keep popping out of the river to sunbath on my lawn. I could be out there, trimming my lawn, cooking, doing whatever, and he would just walk in like he own the place.
I'm debating whether I should try to build a fence on the riverside to keep him out, or to just give up and start feeding him to keep him alive and healthy.
fences wont stop him, unless its like some metal poles embedded 4ft in the ground and are 6ft above ground
These anchors clearly think that's a rare occurrence.
You shouldn't feed a Gator. If they begin associating you with food one day they could become aggressive towards you if you don't have anything on you.
American gators are getting destroyed by Burmese pythons and other huge snakes that idiot Americans keep releasing into the wild.
that snake died trying to eat it, nor was it pet owners, a fucking hurricane destroyed breeding facilities and zoos which set them free
>that snake died trying to eat it,
The alligator died too. Pythons kill thousands of alligators in Florida, and hundreds of thousands of other native animals.
Between 2017 and 2020 the Florida state government paid professional contractors to capture more than 10,000 invasive pythons from the wild, and that barely made a dent in the problem. There are python-catching competititions everywhere in the southern part of Florida, and pythons keep moving further north every year.
And yes, it's fucking idiot American pet owners. Why else are there "breeding facilities" for dangerous invasive reptiles?
Georgia and Alabama have joined Florida in banning the breeding of sale of Burmese pythons because they know that they're next.
Do those competitions involve prize money? Because I guarantee someone is breeding them solely to “capture” them for competitions. The same thing happened in India, and their snake population exploded even more because of it.
Indians were poor as shit then though. Surely whatever the prize money is isn't worth the time and resources to breed for a Floridian.
>time and resources
Hust need a big fucking pit and enough rodents to keep them alive. You can ignore it the rest of the time. They wouldn’t be breeding the snakes for comfort or safety.
The final solution is to revolutionize the Government to follow more Nazi Germany based eugenic policies on the common populace.
I'm reading alligators attack pythons more often.
Some even marries then
>remember everything
>if you go to the same area the same time of the day multiple times they wait for you there to murder you
fuck salties
vs the wicked crocodile. Fuck these cunts.
Meanwhile, the alligator always looks like he's smiling. He is a friend of man.
There is something malevolent and sinister in the head shape of a crocodile. I don't like these animals. They always look like they're up to no good.
As long as you don't get near them or their waters, you should be ok. Just watch your pets.
in my experience just don't get within a few feet of them and they're chill. They're more likely to fuck off than anything else. Pets and small kids are at risk though. Their prey distinction for stuff on the shore is very height based - crawl around on your knees next to the water's edge and you might see one moving your way.
Fishing waters with them in is fun, you need to reel in fast because they learn that hooked fish are easy targets and they'll steal your bass.
American biodiversity is unreal. Mountain lions can be found in fucking cities and suburbs. I've seen one in my neighborhood and it was fucking huge
I always thought Arizona was lame when it comes to animals but then I sat down a realized we have an amazing variety even if most of them dont interest me personally.
I love this state
You get some crazy shit especially down in tuscon with javelinas just walking around the city
The mountain lion's adaptability is insane. They range from the tundra to the desert to rain forests. Competing with grizzly bears and jaguars. Hunting everything from elk to fucking penguins.
And Indians have giant monitor lizards instead of raccoons in their cities.
I'm waking up
To ash and dust
I wipe my ass and I slap my nuts
It's crazy to me that Americans (and basically everyone) just have bears walking around.
t. Britbong living in an ecological wasteland
who wins: a group of 8 bears or every morris man in cornwall
>Oh wait why am I running, I'm a bear!
That's a babby bear
we mostly leave them alone here. We'll kill one if it gnaws on people. But other than that we just pack them up and move them every few years when they figure out where we keep the garbage.
people forget that 50% of americans live in 5 different cities on the coasts, most of america is wilderness
The largest cities in America are New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and Phoenix. They have a combined population of 18.9 million, 5.7% of America's total population, and two of them are not on the coasts.
Even the top 5 most populous states only add up to 124 million, 37.4% of the national total.
that doesn't account for the metro area population for those cities (nearby suburbs etc) which more than doubles the number of people, but your point overall stands.
I've never seen one IRL.
Love these thicc fuckers so much bros
He’s very chunky
Why is he flat
*SLAMMED
flaat
we eat those, actually.
I got to hang around cuban crocs for a few days and I can safely say they are the most foul tempered crocs to exist. Do not go near them for the love of god.
They make up for it by being cute and intelligent.
Modern day alligators are quite small compared to their ancestors.
>mississippiensis
because no matter how big or "cool" an animal is, its destiny is to be cucked and manhandled by humanity the moment it displeases us or gets in our way.
Human-supremacy fags are the most unbearable posters on this board
>t. Gator
Be nice they're not mentally well
I remember that
Gators are so cool. Wish every gator a good day
They're basically the reptile equivalent of a black bear. Yes, they are dangerous, and yes they can go after your ass. But if you understand how they behave and leave them alone, you can coexist with them.
They are also considerably more chill than crocodiles and caimans.
I lived in Florida for nearly 20 years. I worked for a gold course and was constantly having to tell the tourists from up north to stay away from the water on the course. Just absolute brain dead people not realizing that a gator would easily end them with one snap in a bad spot. Not too scary if you’re smart enough to leave them alone though.
Look how big moose and bison are.
Only floridans though
They live in Georgia, Louisiana and Texas
Louisiana has 2x the population of floridas gators practically
they are also in mississippi, alabama, arkansas and south carolina
Yeah the gators here are pretty relaxed. Kinda nice actually, mostly just lazy provided you don’t bother their kids
SE Texas native here, they aren't pussies they're just chill. Our bayou bros. They don't want to eat people and know they don't need to fight unless cornered.
Extremely capable of destroying you if you give them no other option or threaten their young/nest, but overall far safer to be near than deer or feral hogs.
Texas too. They're spreading but always have been a ton of them along the coast from the Brazos region east to the border, including Houston's bayous. I live in San Antonio now and apparently they've made it to some of our artificial waterways in the last couple decades or so. As a Houston native I am happy to have my old buddies move in.
this
Reptiles in North America aren't scary, most just flee and none (maybe crocodiles?) see humans as potential prey. Wouldn't be surprised if the most dangerous to someone minding their own business are the invasive green iguanas, the males get territorial. All mammals are smart enough to get it in their heads to do murder for non-survival reasons, and then there are the large predators. Which are honestly less of a potential threat than pissed off ungulates.
Alabama here, I remember for probably a decade or so officials always kept saying we have no gators here meanwhile at the same time they steadily become more and more common.
Spot em occasionally in west point lake and the chattahoochee river.
>corps of engineers still swears theyve only ever found 1 gator in west point lakein the last 6 years
>now they claim gators come up the chattahoochee but they cant breed as it's to far north and cold for them, they're only breeding below Columbus ga.
>have seen babies much further north
Interesting
Niles and Salties are one of the few animals on earth that is regularly large and fearsome and subtle/cunning enough to prey upon human beings, and actively ENJOY doing so. A tiger has to be kinda a messed up individual tiger to become a real maneater, they are just weird/hurt ones most of the time (there are some psycho tigers and lions though who seem to love hunting humans, and leopards love to prey on primates. cats love to kill primates). Gators don't really attack people often and they don't seem to like eating people. They'll bite you or something but they don't actively want to hunt you in most cases. Niles and Salties are the real deal.
Gators tend to lean more into smaller prey than themselves meaning people walking their dogs near the water or smaller children tend to be the main threats to humans with them (pets and kids) paired with very few ever really make it to huge sizes that would see adult humans as a reliable zoo's. If I remember right after about 5 to 6 foot gators growth slows down compared to some crocs.
Add in some states have gator hunting seasons to help keep their numbers in check and some states wont trap and transport gators after a certain size.
Truly big gators are all in remote waterways, old and learned to avoid people mostly and zoos where they're fed.
>old and learned to avoid people mostly
Not only that, they learn to avoid traps too. We bait hooks for gators on my family’s property, and the biggest gators we have on camera just avoid the areas we bait. As dumb as they are, they’re smarter than deer.
ya. Tested that out once as a teenager. I'd get on my knees near shore in gator waters and they'd start edging closer, stood up and they'd back off. It was repeatable too.
They don't go for tall prey.
>they'd start edging closer
scare the shit out me that would
NTA
>going down road one spring
>see FUCKING HUGE gator on opposite bank of canal
>hop out, lie flat on belly at waters edge trying to take a photo level with the waters surface
>water was fairly clear so can see him as he slinks into water even though he kicked up a cloud of mud off the bottom
>straight towards me
>instaspooked
>jump up, he darts 90 degrees to the left and goes to do gator shit
Kek, from reading this thread they only like small food, and you can give them the illusion you're small but once you hope up they're immediately uninterested. That's certainly a convenient trait for Floridians.
I've never seen a crocodile irl and I grew up in Miami. Are they hiding from me? 🙁
Fairchild botanical gardens or Black Point Marina are good places to see them in Miami
bro you from a city you lucky to seen a squirrel much less a 500 pound gator
Drive down to Everglades National Park and hit up the absolute southern tip of the park. They like the mangrove forests.
Also, they're way more aggressive than a gator.
I see them in the cooling canals every month during a radiation survey. They're neat.
if you think those are bad, you should see what the Australians have to deal with. Not saying alligators are pussies, but salties are next fucking level.
>strongest bite of any living animal as of right now
>biggest living reptile
>will literally jump out of the water and catch shit in mid air
>even the shark occasionally fails to best it
they're so cool
You forgot
>literally a dinosaur
Uhhum they're not achschually dinosars they are an archosaur tho :*~~))
It's not a dinosaur, it's better
While that’s true, why is it that whenever alligators ever get mentioned somebody brings up crocodiles? Every single time it happens without fail
Same animal, big flat water lizard with the teeth and dangerness
they're just diet crocodiles
most people can't tell the difference
Crocodiles have a smile, gators don't show teeth a while.
1 is cute, the other is grumpy
Because gators are just a shitty and lame version of crocs and caimains are a shittier and lamer version of gators
>gators
intelligent, better adapted to the cold, friendly, taste great
>crocs
stupid, wider distribution but more fragile, want to kill you, taste bad
Crocs taste great you liar.
You can easily tell which one is which.
Crocs look perpetually pissed off, while Gators have a friendlier look. It's pretty suiting too since most Gators are less aggressive than crocs.
Because you might as well talk about crocs in an alligator thread instead of having two threads when most people are interested in both animals
Alligators are the twink versions of the Crocodile
more like crocs are the nog gators
it's like coke and pepsi
gators have beady puppy dog eyes, crocodiles have evil "fuck you i'm gonna tear you limb from limb and eat you alive" eyes
Look at how scarier Crocs are compared to Gators.
>Not saying alligators are pussies
I am, .t louisiananon
They are still inherently dangerous though and capable of fucking you up, just like our black bears
Ill swim in gator water, I wont get within 10 feet of crocodile water
>Ill swim in gator water
I won't.
What is there to fear?
>think they must be really fucking dangerous
>15 fatalities since 1948
wtf they're nice
more people die to hippos or elephants, you have to combine all crocodile species to get to 1000 deaths per death and even then thats mostly carried by salties and nile crocs
>1000 deaths per death
Salties and Niles combined are >95% of croc fatalities, which is WELL over 1000 and prob closer to 3000. Hippos and elephants don't hunt people. Crocs do.
elephant herds attack villages occasionally, its usually males and its basically teenage or incel rage, elephants are actual pest in countries that have them, because the only way you elephant proof your farm is to have a tall concrete wall, so if the elephant does something you dont want youre kinda fucked
and hippos are asshole in general, and unlike a croc, theyll leave the water to kill you
Hippos and elephants aggro because they're territorial and you happen to be in their path. Saltwater and Nile crocodiles seek out people to stalk, kill, and then consume. They are the only large predators that do this habitually. This is why they are responsible for far more deaths than either.
i cant fault an animal for being hungry, thats the nature of being a living creature
meanwhile hippos and elephants can get really vindictive, which is choice that they make
Ok Idrc. Crocs are more dangerous
>Saltwater and Nile crocodiles seek out people to stalk, kill, and then consume. They are the only large predators that do this habitually
Polar bears too
I think your dog has autism
Ive been swimming around them since I was like 11
Only one time did I feel threatened was when a big one claimed my favored spot to swim in during their breeding season.
Otherwise just avoid swimming between dusk and dawn to be safe
They just don't care about humans? What's with their autistic cousins then?
Bro Florida has both alligators and crocodiles
This. And the American crocodile is a relic from the time where Africa and the Americas were more closer apart.
I find it amazing that there are saltwater crocodiles in an ocean as cold as the Atlantic.
Got to see an American Crocodile while working near Kennedy Space Center I think. I have seen a lot of gators and this one looked different.
Forgot pic
bump
Um anon? I don't see the pic
>strongest bite of any living animal as of right now
>ties your mouth closed with elastic bands
>nothing personnel kid
I saw a big saltie take a feral horse in Kakadu. The horse bent to drink at a river and the croc just erupted out of the water, grabbed it by the head and dragged it under.
Imagine her being swallowed alive by that croc
Fuckin' HOT.
Wtf that's a scene straight out of Africa
He lived
>his hope and optimism: gone
HOLY SHIT
This really put how Robust they are into my mind, For some reason I always imaged longer gators as more slender but FUCK that's a monster
That's a large male. Males can be way bigger than females.
>That's a large male
For you
bump
HE BIGGG
I'm gonna jerk to the thought of that bitch being digested by the croc.
Fuck off vorefag
melt inside my stomach gay
Uhhh Florida is the only place in the world with both alligators and crocodiles.
What's their fucking problem? Why are alligators so chill and crocs fucking assholes?
Why are alligators mostly friendly and crocodiles are fucking cocksuckers? What did evolution mean by this?
pretty sure its just alligators dont perceive us as food so they dont want anything to do with us
I dont have first hand experience with american crocodiles but they supposedly arent trying to eat people either like salties/freshies/niles/muggers/cubans etc
I dont know where caiman fall on that spectrum either but I know most captive caiman are assholes
Caimans are mostly croclets, but Black Caimans get pretty big and are known to take people's limbs off.
because theyre not around dangerous animals all the time like hippos so land isnt scarce enough for them to develop a temperament
I remember reading once that saltwater crocs and polar bears are the only two species of their respective families that still actively see humans as a potential prey because they haven't lived along human society long enough to learn to avoid people.
You should read up on the British building railroads in Africa in the 19th century.
The African workers (who were basically slaves) knew that lions, leopards and hyenas would kill them constantly, so they spent half their time building forts to hide in at night.
So then the British imported thousands of workers/slaves from India and Ceylon (modern-day India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka). Hundreds of those poor cunts were quickly killed and eaten by lions, leopards and hyenas.
Even today, dozens of Indians in India are killed by leopards and tigers every year. There's one schoolteacher in the Himalayas who became a full-time leopard hunter because leopards killed half the kids in his class.
Even fucking Americans still get killed by mountain lions every year.
If you really don't think that a predator big or smart enough to kill you will actually kill you, just go out in the bush and say "Hi!"
>There's one schoolteacher in the Himalayas who became a full-time leopard hunter because leopards killed half the kids in his class.
That's amazing
Also I didn't mean salties and polar bears would be the only animals that would kill and eat you given the chance, just that I recall reading they would actively hunt people on any given opportunity instead of it being territorial/isolated kills. But I see your point. Honestly I forgot about nile crocs
Daily reminder that Big cats are likely going to become extinct like wolves because they pose too much of a menace to humans. This is why Gators are likely going to be around for a lot longer than big cats.
Not a chance. People will try to save them because muh mammals/fluffy cat predators. The same can't be said if crocs/gators ever become endangered.
This makes my blood boil. Crocs are absolutely neccessary for life. They cull the weak and stupid. Snakes are hecking based.
All animals are valueable no matter how much a zoofag thinks only some are rapeable
Alligators are one of the biggest success stories and bounced back fast enough and well enough that they only spent 20 years Near Extinct/Extinct to Endangered in most of its range to fully recovered.
i bet if some madlad put took alligators to australia, they would dab on all the poor little freshies and probably bully young salties too.
It depends entirely on size, and even then the crocs are way more willing to fight larger animals.
alligators bully american crocs in the terrain where they overlap, and american crocs are way bigger on average than a freshie.
they're also bulkier and heavier than a crocodile of the same length.
>I remember reading once that saltwater crocs and polar bears are the only two species of their respective families that still actively see humans as a potential prey
Oh, I misread your post. But still no. A study in 2020 found that Nile crocodiles killed 48 people in Africa just in 2019. That would have been just the tip of the iceberg, just for Nile crocodiles.
the american crocodile can grow up to 20ft too, but it's rare for it to happen. it's mostly based off unconfirmed reports and skull lengths.
american, nile, and saltwater crocs seem to be the biggest, but the mugger looks the coolest. american croc looks cool too though.
we feed them dogs so they don't eat us
Crocodiles have been in america since before the natives. WE’RE the ones who eyes get batted at.
I'm now imagining a gator sitting on his porch with a bottle of moonshine shouting at every human passerby to go back to Africa.
No one bats an eye because it's the same for every american country save for Canada.
Even canada's not safe
>Plenty of wild ungulates like deers and reindeers
>4 feet tall spines 6 foot long porcupines
>Coyotes
>Bears
>Mooses
>Wolverines
>Wolves
>Pumas
>rarely boars since there is a huge amount of predators and environmental factors where their incursions up north is less likely
In fact, the fact most fauna that can fuck you up here is mammals is pretty alarming, as they will be less likely to freeze up or back down depending on species and they will be way more energetic and able to analyze a solution for hurting you or defending themselves than cold blooded gators.