Birds are living dinosaurs, so we can assume most if not all dinosaurs were feathered the same way mammals have fur. Larger dinosaurs (similar to elephants unless in winter regions) would be more scaley. It's common sense really.
Exactly. Feathers must have evolved way before birds in slow and small steps. They didn't just appear out of nowhere in the Avialae clade, full fledged with all the modern structures and with the shape fully adapted for flight. Feathered dinosaurs are just common evolutionary sense.
>It's common sense really.
Funny how good sense isn't common. Elephants don't gain scales when they lose feathers, you dipshit. I wish you fucking redditors would stop using this retarded muh elefants argument.
Are any and all dino threads just doomed to have people claim that China has some massive scheme in the works and "TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES garden gnomeS garden gnomeS garden gnomeS"?
>Why do people keep criticizing the wrong things that are happening
Because we're not liberal zombies like you. Some of us actually like dinosaurs, not pop culture bullshit.
>some of us actually like dinosaurs
except you don't, you're a mongoloid from 4chan who feels the need to be hypercontrarian towards anything that's slightly left of normal.
No, chud, YOU are the gays that turned dinosaurs political. We're killing your bullshit and returning the study of dinosaurs to the realm of actual fucking science.
Science is good. But science is something alien to you. You literally don't even fucking know what science is. That's why you keep invoking Russel's Teapots as arguments.
Scalesisters, china’s quantum feather imprint engraving machines are too good. They must be fueling them with ground puppies and liquefied kittens and lubricating the works with falun gong organs.
they’re powered by the quantum anti-entropy waves created when a schizo becomes a magical girl (male) and then becomes a suicide case. But unfortunately 60% never release any energy so the chinese feather glowies need to make dinosaurs EXTRA gay to keep it up
>Any questions?
i will void this myself so
what do women, the most beautiful form of a living species, actually think about the pleasures of sucking cock?
it's just so much more than that. The feather accusations are just one more attempt at undermining traditional dinosaurs and western masculinity.
Tyrannosaurus Rex was scaly and formed nuclear families with one partner for life. They offered parental care and formed enduring, racially aware dynasties. They did honorable battle with other theropods and carnivores, mostly ignoring herbivores. Homosexuality and effeminacy were not tolerated, weakness was reviled. Tyrannosaurs had a complex society, all males who failed to live up to its expectations were executed and buried in the bog to prevent their souls from reincarnating and polluting the volk. But in the end the forces of degeneration finally won, many dinosaurs emerged which began to have feathers, lips, nontraditional family units, homosexuality, etc. So the last Tyrannosaurs summoned the meteor to end their own era and leave room for another race to grow.
Mammals are at the same juncture, will we be strong enough to make the same decision?
wow i love when 80% of the Wauf catalog is some schizo arguing with himself about how people depict something that's been extinct for 300 million years
Your disapproval is why we refuse to stop noticing.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>noticing
take ur fucking meds, holy shit society truely has been subverted into the most retarded possible paranoias. regaurdless of the meaning of the insult its a weak sounding one. that was my point, theirs such better ones
1 month ago
Anonymous
>buzzword spam
How do you exist. Like where do you actually come from? Do you have parents or were you grown in a lab?
1 month ago
Anonymous
bro doesnt understand words above 3 syllables, i hope you go to one of those inner city highschools where if they don't turn something they still give you 50%, you'll need it. either way goodluck luck with the junior soccer tournament this Sunday, Jacob!
1 month ago
Anonymous
>society truely has been subverted into the most retarded possible paranoias
Yeah, most notably that one "has been born in the wrong body".
1 month ago
Anonymous
I'd say "cutting minors' dicks off is good science and good morals" is worse.
Also, what the fuck is he talking about with the Iguana?
bro they got iguanodonts and turtles and fish and shit in the utahraptor megablock
The cope and seethe is real. This is like liberals in crime stories.
>White guy >SEE IT'S A WHITE MALE!! >Not a white guy >Now let's not jump to any conclusions
>Fossil includes literally anything not immediately identifiable as scales >SEE?! [Whatever dinosaur we think is most subversive] was covered in a thick coat of feathers! >Fossil found that includes scales >Now let's not jump to any conclusions
Why do we keep comparing paleopsueds to liberal gays? Because you're literally the same "people". That's why.
To me it seems you'd prefer if people jumped to conclusions at all times. Wouldn't it be better if they didn't ever jump to conclusions and instead presented each possible implication of a discovery without bias?
>To me it seems you'd prefer if people jumped to conclusions at all times.
What a nice, clean propagandistic brain-off way of looking at things. I'm very sure the conclusions you reach about dinosaurs will be evidence-based.
>Wouldn't it be better if they didn't ever jump to conclusions and instead presented each possible implication of a discovery without bias?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What fucking century do you believe you live in? All of academia is totally compromised by batshit insane ideology. You literally can't work in a scientific field at this point without the majority of your co-workers believing shit that is 100% counter even the commonly accepted data. Humans are nothing resembling objective and in THIS demonic society malice is the norm, not incompetence.
Also, what the fuck is he talking about with the Iguana?
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The cope and seethe is real. This is like liberals in crime stories.
>White guy >SEE IT'S A WHITE MALE!! >Not a white guy >Now let's not jump to any conclusions
>Fossil includes literally anything not immediately identifiable as scales >SEE?! [Whatever dinosaur we think is most subversive] was covered in a thick coat of feathers! >Fossil found that includes scales >Now let's not jump to any conclusions
Why do we keep comparing paleopsueds to liberal gays? Because you're literally the same "people". That's why.
This image makes the paleochud seethe, cope, dilate (and die early).
Why are some people so deranged over dinosaurs having feathers? Do they think birds miraculously developed feathers in isolation from other dinosaurs?
Do they have some personal grudge against feathers? Did their uncle tickled them with a feather before abusing them in childhood? What creates this kind of schizo behavior?
>Why are some people so deranged over dinosaurs having feathers?
Because trannies and garden gnomes must subvert. It's part of their mental derangement. Everyone else wants it to stop because putting feathers on everything is factually inaccurate.
We've had a clear path to feathers in birds for over 150 years, and also 150 years of skin impressions that say "dinosaurs had scales, no feathers". Then, miraculously, out of China there is suddenly feathered dinosaurs. Really makes you go HMMMMMM. Either the fossil record miraculously changed, or recent "evidence" is a hoax.
Oh it's much worse than that. All our evidence for centuries showed dinosaurs to be scaled except for the bird-line, then EVERYTHING out of china and and very nearly ONLY china has feathers.
Paleomorons will claim none of this matters for some reason. Imagine if astrophysicists came out one day and said, yeah we made almost everything about dark matter, dark energy, etc. up, but that doesn't affect the science. That's modern "paleontology". Just knowingly making up lies, then covering for those lies, then expecting to still have credibility, and getting steaming hot pissed when people call you a liar and stop listening to you.
Oh it's much worse than that. All our evidence for centuries showed dinosaurs to be scaled except for the bird-line, then EVERYTHING out of china and and very nearly ONLY china has feathers.
Do you have any evidence?
1 month ago
Anonymous
Funny how you aren't asking Xu Xing that, despite him openly saying it in a national publication.
Imagine being so unhinged and delusional that you assert something is fake based on geographic proximity to a race of people you don't like. Not even associated with that group of people, only nearby. Holy fuck.
Imagine being an NPC in 2023 and expecting people to read your post.
>yeah we made almost everything about dark matter, dark energy, etc. up, but that doesn't affect the science.
That's honesty how it works though. You shitpost an idea around for decades, then find a tiny piece of fact that could be evidence and throw a party. Maybe slightly adjust your ideas and repeat.
Oh it's much worse than that. All our evidence for centuries showed dinosaurs to be scaled except for the bird-line, then EVERYTHING out of china and and very nearly ONLY china has feathers.
Considering the world and everything that goes on and has gone on in the last 10 years, I wouldn't be surprised if this was all true and paleontology has been taken over by some malicious racket peddling lies for money, just like the pharmaceutical industry, the media and all of politics.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Bro all of science is like that now. The replication crisis exists due to malice, not just incompetence.
>SOME chinese fossils are faked so they faked the feathers, somehow
Some western fossils were faked. Are all of them faked?
[...]
So feathered theropods evolved on that continent.
NO ITS AN INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY TO TURN KIDS GAY AND GET GRANT MONEY -you, a fucking retard and creationist moron arguing in bad faith.
>SOME chinese fossils are faked so they faked the feathers, somehow
Some western fossils were faked. Are all of them faked?
Oh it's much worse than that. All our evidence for centuries showed dinosaurs to be scaled except for the bird-line, then EVERYTHING out of china and and very nearly ONLY china has feathers.
So feathered theropods evolved on that continent.
NO ITS AN INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY TO TURN KIDS GAY AND GET GRANT MONEY -you, a fucking retard and creationist moron arguing in bad faith.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Some western fossils were faked. Are all of them faked? >comparing the free world to the CCP
I honestly would not be shocked if over 80% of post-2010's "scientific" finds from the Wrst were faked too.
According to western "science" women can have beards and a dick, so why wouldn't T. rex have full body feather coverage and wore lipstick?
Imagine being so unhinged and delusional that you assert something is fake based on geographic proximity to a race of people you don't like. Not even associated with that group of people, only nearby. Holy fuck.
Is this motherfucker real? it looks so fucking fake.
Even if we assume it is real, i don't see the feathers. Could very much have had a fat tail like a leopard gecko
Imagine grasping this hard. Now do every single other example, gay.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I am not paleoschizo. I KNOW some dinosaurs had feathers. I'm just being skeptical of this one in particular because the fossil looks really weird and i don't see feather impressions
1 month ago
Anonymous
Oh sorry, I thought you were calling ME fake.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Apparently it is believed to be a hatchling so that would explain why it looks like a cartoon i guess
What would chinese paleontologists gain by creating a false narrative of feathered dinosaurs? By the way, what's the actual problem with dinosaurs having feathers... AT ALL?
Completely schizo shit. You people are just irrationally seething that some theropods don't look like your lizard toys.
I don't know what has Xu Xing gained? He's literally the most famous paleontologist in a country of over 1 billion, has world renown and every featherfag sucks his dick. Gee, I don't know, anon, what on Earth could anyone gain from this?
>By the way, what's the actual problem with dinosaurs having feathers... AT ALL?
Almost 100% of dinosaurs DO NOT HAVE THEM. This in't opinion, it's FACT based on NON-doctored, NON-hoax fossils.
>Completely schizo shit.
The entire pop sci mesozoic view you support? Absolutely. It's not real and it never was. No number of deviantart or reddit users will ever unmake the truth.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Xu Xing isn't the only dude who found feathered dinosaurs. Either it's a coalition of paleontologists, together with China's government (because they would know the truth behind over a hundred of fake fossils in their own new shiny museum).
But the other thing is: feathered dinosaurs are also being found in Mongolia and Russia, by western paleontologists. And now some of them are being found in other continents as well. Are they in the conspiracy as well? What is everyone gaining from it?
It's like the flat earth theory. Some schizos believe that the "round earth" is a conspiracy made by Nasa. But their whole theory goes down the toilet once you tell them there's more space organizations around the world, and for keeping such a secret, basically all the world governments must be together in the conspiracy, and everything just loses it's purpose. How such a big hoax is even sustainable? How are so many people in this and nobody leaks anything? If everyone is in it, what is everyone actually gaining from it?
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Either it's a coalition of paleontologists
Yes, correct, retard.
>But nobody ever works together to lie to the public. Reddit told me this and I believe it!
>together with China's government
Bruh I literally already posted this. Is it that you can't read or won't read? At this point, it's clear nothing more you have to say will amount to anything but refusing to read, understand or both and spamming redditry.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Bruh I literally already posted this
And then you just changed the narrative. I asked what the chinese government gains from it, and then you go out to say the Xu Xing is personally profiting from it.
Decide yourself, schizo. Either Xu Xing is being benefited alone to become the single most revolutionary paleontologist in China and eventually in the world, or China's government + chinese paleontologists + some western paleontologists are all in some deep conspiracy to convince people that dinosaurs have feathers for whatever reason.
1 month ago
Anonymous
CHINESE QUANTUM FEATHER ENGRAVING MACHINES TONGUE MY ANUS
XU XING IS SLIPPING ESTROGEN MISTING DEVICES INTO THEROPOD FOSSILS
>What would chinese paleontologists gain by creating a false narrative of feathered dinosaurs?
Why would a communist dictatorship with a massive inferiority complex want to be seen as making numerous very important discoveries? Are you seriously even asking that? The Chinese lie about everything. They claim to have invented about a thousand things they didn't. They insist that films pander to their national pride by inserting scenes where the best in any given field is Chinese. They publish millions of fake academic papers (everyone else does too, but the Chinese are especially notorious for it). Their entire society runs on bullshit.
Really, the only reason to trust any research or discovery coming out of China is if it would be impractical to fake. I'm leaning towards their feathered fossils all being real simply because I can't see any way they could be convincingly faked and they have been examined by outsiders (it's possible they are bad fakes and people just go along with it, but that seems unlikely even with Chinese exerting a lot of social pressure to ignore evidence; some fake fossils have been called out as fake, so it seems likely at least one person would have pointed out any obvious flaws).
But the moment someone shows me a way to cast things in authentic looking rock, I'm going to consider all of it fucking suspect.
Also, people keep saying 'feathers' and drawing bird-like feathers, but the evidence actually seems to show mostly porcupine-like bristles as far as I can tell. Probably evolved from the same structure as feathers, but not necessarily looking anything like what we think of when that word is used.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>I'm leaning towards their feathered fossils all being real simply because I can't see any way they could be convincingly faked and they have been examined by outsiders
All of the weird paranoia aside, this is my main point.
I can see Xu Xing or the chinese government lying for their own benefits. But I can't see how so many paleontologists around the world are being convinced by the fossils for more than 20 years, especially when everyone became cautious over bird-like dinosaur fossils after the "Archeroraptor" fiasco (and the hoax was discovered after just a single year after the announcement). The fake fossils can't be as convincing.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Paleontologists need grant money, and they can't get grant money if they say "well I'm going to go out and dig up some more old bones." They have to say shit like "we're on the cutting edge of archaeological discovery, we're digging up fossils that paint an entirely new picture of dinosaurs! More active, more birdlike than we ever imagined!"
1 month ago
Anonymous
This guy finally gets it. It's kind of amazing how few actual biologists there are on Wauf. STEM is an insufferable group of fields. 99/100 modern """""scientists""""" are reddit tier retards who don't actually understand their own field but understand how to worship the bureaucracy that keeps them financially afloat.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Um excuse me! Westerners can't be fooled!
Can't they though? What if they're lazy and/or active participants in the scam?
1 month ago
Anonymous
There are literally papers written on how the chinese fake fossils.
Additionally, those "porcupine quills" you keep seeing are likely plant remains misidentified as "feathers". This is probably true of Tianyulong, Psittacosaurus AND Longisquama (which are probably fern fronds in the latter case). None of these animals even have bristles. It's just plant debris. See:
Funny how they never say this when they find plant remains they claim are "feathers" isn't it?
>it's possible they are bad fakes and people just go along with it, but that seems unlikely
Oh you poor thing. The entire history of the life sciences for the past good 30 years is one of fraud, sloppy methodology and nepotism to advance careers over actual quality research. At this point, it's MORE likely any new paper on dinosaurs will be loaded with bullshit rather than new discoveries.
Feathered. They have some scales, but most birds do.
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[...]
I believe there is a difference between rows of filament running down an animal's back and an isolated patch of scales. It could be from Utahraptor, as like modern birds it likely still had scales on some areas. It could even be from a part of the body where feathers should be, disproving Utahraptor being feathered. However, these are just possibilities. To use this find to say that Utahraptor was scaly despite it's closest relatives being feathered is about as schizo as saying Tyrannosaurus was feathered despite it's closest relatives being scaly.
>I believe there is a difference between rows of filament running down an animal's back and an isolated patch of scales.
None of these animals actually have a row of back filaments. They're just intentionally misidentified plant debris.
"ixerin" was the Furaffinity profile of "renowned" "paleo" "artist" Emily Willoughby, and it was very, VERY nsfw: and I'm not talking just plain furry porn, I'm talking graphic guro-dismemberment bestiality porn.
Feathertrannies are gurofags? I would never have imagined!
Literally the entirety of modern mesozoic paleontology is subversive, sick sexual fetishism. Literally that's all it fucking is.
Remember, kids: whenever you're being shouted down by "mainstream" paleoNPCs denying actual fossil evidence and trying to convince you of batshit insane theories that have become popular like "ornithoscelida" and magic invisible T. rex feathers, THESE are the sorts of "people" you're arguing with. This is what their side looks like: literal trannies, gurofags and nazifurs.
If you're a regular here, I guarantee you're more of a degenerate.
It's especially telling that you need to point a finger to feel better living with yourself.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I guarantee you I'm not. I think half this site should be executed by the other half beating them to death with hammers.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>anti-social thoughts of extreme violence
You're so different anon, not at all like the others!
1 month ago
Anonymous
Must be cool to spend literally every waking hour in a place you hate so you can try to act superior while being wrong all the time. Only in this age could criaturas like yourself exist. Thank god it's ending.
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Remember, kids: whenever you're being shouted down by "mainstream" paleoNPCs denying actual fossil evidence and trying to convince you of batshit insane theories that have become popular like "ornithoscelida" and magic invisible T. rex feathers, THESE are the sorts of "people" you're arguing with. This is what their side looks like: literal trannies, gurofags and nazifurs.
Feathertrannies are gurofags? I would never have imagined!
Literally the entirety of modern mesozoic paleontology is subversive, sick sexual fetishism. Literally that's all it fucking is.
>Normies once again discover that artists are perverted weirdos
i love me sum classic ixerin stuff
sadly in more recent times she deleted all her accounts, to hide her involvement & "taste" from more profesional paleo circles
Velociraptor was feathered. Tyrannosaurus was scaly. Any questions?
Feathered. They have some scales, but most birds do.
No. Just a statement. Velociraptor wasn't feathered either.
Funny how they never say this when they find plant remains they claim are "feathers" isn't it?
I believe there is a difference between rows of filament running down an animal's back and an isolated patch of scales. It could be from Utahraptor, as like modern birds it likely still had scales on some areas. It could even be from a part of the body where feathers should be, disproving Utahraptor being feathered. However, these are just possibilities. To use this find to say that Utahraptor was scaly despite it's closest relatives being feathered is about as schizo as saying Tyrannosaurus was feathered despite it's closest relatives being scaly.
my favorites are the ones with teeth on their beaks
These guys?
Or maybe these guys
This is still the only image where the updated Spinosaurus actually looks natural and it's JP fanart
That's because JP fans aren't shitty tasteless artists
Ok
Birds are living dinosaurs, so we can assume most if not all dinosaurs were feathered the same way mammals have fur. Larger dinosaurs (similar to elephants unless in winter regions) would be more scaley. It's common sense really.
Exactly. Feathers must have evolved way before birds in slow and small steps. They didn't just appear out of nowhere in the Avialae clade, full fledged with all the modern structures and with the shape fully adapted for flight. Feathered dinosaurs are just common evolutionary sense.
In fact, I will go on as far to say that we underfeather dinosaurs in media/ paleo art and they were more feathered than we thought.
>It's common sense really.
Funny how good sense isn't common. Elephants don't gain scales when they lose feathers, you dipshit. I wish you fucking redditors would stop using this retarded muh elefants argument.
Are any and all dino threads just doomed to have people claim that China has some massive scheme in the works and "TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES garden gnomeS garden gnomeS garden gnomeS"?
>Why do people keep criticizing the wrong things that are happening
Because we're not liberal zombies like you. Some of us actually like dinosaurs, not pop culture bullshit.
>NOOOOO!!! DINOS WERENT HECCIN FEATHERED THATS NOT COOL AT ALL!!! DA JOOOZ ARE RUINING MY CHILDHOOD
Camwhoring belongs on /soc/ anon, no need to show us what you look like when being disagreed with.
>IT'S NOT THE JOOS
>>>/co/
>some of us actually like dinosaurs
except you don't, you're a mongoloid from 4chan who feels the need to be hypercontrarian towards anything that's slightly left of normal.
It's just dumb rightoids who are so mentally ill that they've turned dinosaurs into a "political problem".
No, chud, YOU are the gays that turned dinosaurs political. We're killing your bullshit and returning the study of dinosaurs to the realm of actual fucking science.
But I thought science was bad and cringe, remember contrarian-kun? Or is it only good when it supports your side of the argument?
Science is good. But science is something alien to you. You literally don't even fucking know what science is. That's why you keep invoking Russel's Teapots as arguments.
Scalesisters, china’s quantum feather imprint engraving machines are too good. They must be fueling them with ground puppies and liquefied kittens and lubricating the works with falun gong organs.
they’re powered by the quantum anti-entropy waves created when a schizo becomes a magical girl (male) and then becomes a suicide case. But unfortunately 60% never release any energy so the chinese feather glowies need to make dinosaurs EXTRA gay to keep it up
>48 posts
>21 posters
Samegay samefagging the fuck out of his samefag thread
>Any questions?
i will void this myself so
what do women, the most beautiful form of a living species, actually think about the pleasures of sucking cock?
it's just so much more than that. The feather accusations are just one more attempt at undermining traditional dinosaurs and western masculinity.
Tyrannosaurus Rex was scaly and formed nuclear families with one partner for life. They offered parental care and formed enduring, racially aware dynasties. They did honorable battle with other theropods and carnivores, mostly ignoring herbivores. Homosexuality and effeminacy were not tolerated, weakness was reviled. Tyrannosaurs had a complex society, all males who failed to live up to its expectations were executed and buried in the bog to prevent their souls from reincarnating and polluting the volk. But in the end the forces of degeneration finally won, many dinosaurs emerged which began to have feathers, lips, nontraditional family units, homosexuality, etc. So the last Tyrannosaurs summoned the meteor to end their own era and leave room for another race to grow.
Mammals are at the same juncture, will we be strong enough to make the same decision?
>will we be strong enough to make the same decision?
You mean die by a comet? Probably.
wow i love when 80% of the Wauf catalog is some schizo arguing with himself about how people depict something that's been extinct for 300 million years
>any disagreement with me is [insert every paranoid delusion I can think of]
Wow, it must be painful to be you.
This image kills the paleoschizo
This image makes the paleochud seethe, cope, dilate (and die early).
'chud' is such a weak, gay sounding insult in comparison to basically literally other slur. call them paleomorons
It's not meant to be a fabricated term. It's merely an observation. That's why it makes you so mad. It's called "noticing".
its just lame af
Your disapproval is why we refuse to stop noticing.
>noticing
take ur fucking meds, holy shit society truely has been subverted into the most retarded possible paranoias. regaurdless of the meaning of the insult its a weak sounding one. that was my point, theirs such better ones
>buzzword spam
How do you exist. Like where do you actually come from? Do you have parents or were you grown in a lab?
bro doesnt understand words above 3 syllables, i hope you go to one of those inner city highschools where if they don't turn something they still give you 50%, you'll need it. either way goodluck luck with the junior soccer tournament this Sunday, Jacob!
>society truely has been subverted into the most retarded possible paranoias
Yeah, most notably that one "has been born in the wrong body".
I'd say "cutting minors' dicks off is good science and good morals" is worse.
Yeah, so raptors weren't feathered,
chudsaurus Rex was,
Spinosaurus was quadruped and duck-like.
No. Just a statement. Velociraptor wasn't feathered either.
Funny how they never say this when they find plant remains they claim are "feathers" isn't it?
Also, what the fuck is he talking about with the Iguana?
The cope and seethe is real. This is like liberals in crime stories.
>White guy
>SEE IT'S A WHITE MALE!!
>Not a white guy
>Now let's not jump to any conclusions
>Fossil includes literally anything not immediately identifiable as scales
>SEE?! [Whatever dinosaur we think is most subversive] was covered in a thick coat of feathers!
>Fossil found that includes scales
>Now let's not jump to any conclusions
Why do we keep comparing paleopsueds to liberal gays? Because you're literally the same "people". That's why.
Deranged
To me it seems you'd prefer if people jumped to conclusions at all times. Wouldn't it be better if they didn't ever jump to conclusions and instead presented each possible implication of a discovery without bias?
>To me it seems you'd prefer if people jumped to conclusions at all times.
What a nice, clean propagandistic brain-off way of looking at things. I'm very sure the conclusions you reach about dinosaurs will be evidence-based.
>Wouldn't it be better if they didn't ever jump to conclusions and instead presented each possible implication of a discovery without bias?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What fucking century do you believe you live in? All of academia is totally compromised by batshit insane ideology. You literally can't work in a scientific field at this point without the majority of your co-workers believing shit that is 100% counter even the commonly accepted data. Humans are nothing resembling objective and in THIS demonic society malice is the norm, not incompetence.
bro they got iguanodonts and turtles and fish and shit in the utahraptor megablock
Why are some people so deranged over dinosaurs having feathers? Do they think birds miraculously developed feathers in isolation from other dinosaurs?
Do they have some personal grudge against feathers? Did their uncle tickled them with a feather before abusing them in childhood? What creates this kind of schizo behavior?
>Why are some people so deranged over dinosaurs having feathers?
Because trannies and garden gnomes must subvert. It's part of their mental derangement. Everyone else wants it to stop because putting feathers on everything is factually inaccurate.
We've had a clear path to feathers in birds for over 150 years, and also 150 years of skin impressions that say "dinosaurs had scales, no feathers". Then, miraculously, out of China there is suddenly feathered dinosaurs. Really makes you go HMMMMMM. Either the fossil record miraculously changed, or recent "evidence" is a hoax.
Oh it's much worse than that. All our evidence for centuries showed dinosaurs to be scaled except for the bird-line, then EVERYTHING out of china and and very nearly ONLY china has feathers.
Paleomorons will claim none of this matters for some reason. Imagine if astrophysicists came out one day and said, yeah we made almost everything about dark matter, dark energy, etc. up, but that doesn't affect the science. That's modern "paleontology". Just knowingly making up lies, then covering for those lies, then expecting to still have credibility, and getting steaming hot pissed when people call you a liar and stop listening to you.
Do you have any evidence?
Funny how you aren't asking Xu Xing that, despite him openly saying it in a national publication.
Imagine being an NPC in 2023 and expecting people to read your post.
We have 150 years of evidence you fuckface.
>yeah we made almost everything about dark matter, dark energy, etc. up, but that doesn't affect the science.
That's honesty how it works though. You shitpost an idea around for decades, then find a tiny piece of fact that could be evidence and throw a party. Maybe slightly adjust your ideas and repeat.
Considering the world and everything that goes on and has gone on in the last 10 years, I wouldn't be surprised if this was all true and paleontology has been taken over by some malicious racket peddling lies for money, just like the pharmaceutical industry, the media and all of politics.
Bro all of science is like that now. The replication crisis exists due to malice, not just incompetence.
You're fake and gay.
>SOME chinese fossils are faked so they faked the feathers, somehow
Some western fossils were faked. Are all of them faked?
So feathered theropods evolved on that continent.
NO ITS AN INTERNATIONAL CONSPIRACY TO TURN KIDS GAY AND GET GRANT MONEY -you, a fucking retard and creationist moron arguing in bad faith.
>Some western fossils were faked. Are all of them faked?
>comparing the free world to the CCP
I honestly would not be shocked if over 80% of post-2010's "scientific" finds from the Wrst were faked too.
According to western "science" women can have beards and a dick, so why wouldn't T. rex have full body feather coverage and wore lipstick?
Imagine being so unhinged and delusional that you assert something is fake based on geographic proximity to a race of people you don't like. Not even associated with that group of people, only nearby. Holy fuck.
Is this motherfucker real? it looks so fucking fake.
Even if we assume it is real, i don't see the feathers. Could very much have had a fat tail like a leopard gecko
Imagine grasping this hard. Now do every single other example, gay.
I am not paleoschizo. I KNOW some dinosaurs had feathers. I'm just being skeptical of this one in particular because the fossil looks really weird and i don't see feather impressions
Oh sorry, I thought you were calling ME fake.
Apparently it is believed to be a hatchling so that would explain why it looks like a cartoon i guess
What would chinese paleontologists gain by creating a false narrative of feathered dinosaurs? By the way, what's the actual problem with dinosaurs having feathers... AT ALL?
Completely schizo shit. You people are just irrationally seething that some theropods don't look like your lizard toys.
I don't know what has Xu Xing gained? He's literally the most famous paleontologist in a country of over 1 billion, has world renown and every featherfag sucks his dick. Gee, I don't know, anon, what on Earth could anyone gain from this?
>By the way, what's the actual problem with dinosaurs having feathers... AT ALL?
Almost 100% of dinosaurs DO NOT HAVE THEM. This in't opinion, it's FACT based on NON-doctored, NON-hoax fossils.
>Completely schizo shit.
The entire pop sci mesozoic view you support? Absolutely. It's not real and it never was. No number of deviantart or reddit users will ever unmake the truth.
Xu Xing isn't the only dude who found feathered dinosaurs. Either it's a coalition of paleontologists, together with China's government (because they would know the truth behind over a hundred of fake fossils in their own new shiny museum).
But the other thing is: feathered dinosaurs are also being found in Mongolia and Russia, by western paleontologists. And now some of them are being found in other continents as well. Are they in the conspiracy as well? What is everyone gaining from it?
It's like the flat earth theory. Some schizos believe that the "round earth" is a conspiracy made by Nasa. But their whole theory goes down the toilet once you tell them there's more space organizations around the world, and for keeping such a secret, basically all the world governments must be together in the conspiracy, and everything just loses it's purpose. How such a big hoax is even sustainable? How are so many people in this and nobody leaks anything? If everyone is in it, what is everyone actually gaining from it?
>Either it's a coalition of paleontologists
Yes, correct, retard.
>But nobody ever works together to lie to the public. Reddit told me this and I believe it!
>together with China's government
Bruh I literally already posted this. Is it that you can't read or won't read? At this point, it's clear nothing more you have to say will amount to anything but refusing to read, understand or both and spamming redditry.
>Bruh I literally already posted this
And then you just changed the narrative. I asked what the chinese government gains from it, and then you go out to say the Xu Xing is personally profiting from it.
Decide yourself, schizo. Either Xu Xing is being benefited alone to become the single most revolutionary paleontologist in China and eventually in the world, or China's government + chinese paleontologists + some western paleontologists are all in some deep conspiracy to convince people that dinosaurs have feathers for whatever reason.
CHINESE QUANTUM FEATHER ENGRAVING MACHINES TONGUE MY ANUS
XU XING IS SLIPPING ESTROGEN MISTING DEVICES INTO THEROPOD FOSSILS
HELP ME CUDDLE RAPTOR I'M GOING INSAAAAAAANE
National pride, duh. China is now on the forefront of scientific discovery, or so they claim.
>What would chinese paleontologists gain by creating a false narrative of feathered dinosaurs?
Why would a communist dictatorship with a massive inferiority complex want to be seen as making numerous very important discoveries? Are you seriously even asking that? The Chinese lie about everything. They claim to have invented about a thousand things they didn't. They insist that films pander to their national pride by inserting scenes where the best in any given field is Chinese. They publish millions of fake academic papers (everyone else does too, but the Chinese are especially notorious for it). Their entire society runs on bullshit.
Really, the only reason to trust any research or discovery coming out of China is if it would be impractical to fake. I'm leaning towards their feathered fossils all being real simply because I can't see any way they could be convincingly faked and they have been examined by outsiders (it's possible they are bad fakes and people just go along with it, but that seems unlikely even with Chinese exerting a lot of social pressure to ignore evidence; some fake fossils have been called out as fake, so it seems likely at least one person would have pointed out any obvious flaws).
But the moment someone shows me a way to cast things in authentic looking rock, I'm going to consider all of it fucking suspect.
Also, people keep saying 'feathers' and drawing bird-like feathers, but the evidence actually seems to show mostly porcupine-like bristles as far as I can tell. Probably evolved from the same structure as feathers, but not necessarily looking anything like what we think of when that word is used.
>I'm leaning towards their feathered fossils all being real simply because I can't see any way they could be convincingly faked and they have been examined by outsiders
All of the weird paranoia aside, this is my main point.
I can see Xu Xing or the chinese government lying for their own benefits. But I can't see how so many paleontologists around the world are being convinced by the fossils for more than 20 years, especially when everyone became cautious over bird-like dinosaur fossils after the "Archeroraptor" fiasco (and the hoax was discovered after just a single year after the announcement). The fake fossils can't be as convincing.
Paleontologists need grant money, and they can't get grant money if they say "well I'm going to go out and dig up some more old bones." They have to say shit like "we're on the cutting edge of archaeological discovery, we're digging up fossils that paint an entirely new picture of dinosaurs! More active, more birdlike than we ever imagined!"
This guy finally gets it. It's kind of amazing how few actual biologists there are on Wauf. STEM is an insufferable group of fields. 99/100 modern """""scientists""""" are reddit tier retards who don't actually understand their own field but understand how to worship the bureaucracy that keeps them financially afloat.
>Um excuse me! Westerners can't be fooled!
Can't they though? What if they're lazy and/or active participants in the scam?
There are literally papers written on how the chinese fake fossils.
See: https://www.jpaleontologicaltechniques.org/pasta3/JPT%20N2/Pdf/JPT_n002_Jul.pdf
Additionally, those "porcupine quills" you keep seeing are likely plant remains misidentified as "feathers". This is probably true of Tianyulong, Psittacosaurus AND Longisquama (which are probably fern fronds in the latter case). None of these animals even have bristles. It's just plant debris. See:
>it's possible they are bad fakes and people just go along with it, but that seems unlikely
Oh you poor thing. The entire history of the life sciences for the past good 30 years is one of fraud, sloppy methodology and nepotism to advance careers over actual quality research. At this point, it's MORE likely any new paper on dinosaurs will be loaded with bullshit rather than new discoveries.
>I believe there is a difference between rows of filament running down an animal's back and an isolated patch of scales.
None of these animals actually have a row of back filaments. They're just intentionally misidentified plant debris.
mostly just chud incel losers permanently online being contrarian for replies
Death to your family.
Paleotwitter acting like it was impossible for Utahraptor to have naked legs or a naked head was the funniest shit
>ixerin
Just found art that looked neat on image search. I know nothing about the artist.
"ixerin" was the Furaffinity profile of "renowned" "paleo" "artist" Emily Willoughby, and it was very, VERY nsfw: and I'm not talking just plain furry porn, I'm talking graphic guro-dismemberment bestiality porn.
Feathertrannies are gurofags? I would never have imagined!
Literally the entirety of modern mesozoic paleontology is subversive, sick sexual fetishism. Literally that's all it fucking is.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Emily_Willoughby
THIS BITCH IS A PSYCHOLOGIST??!!?
Remember, kids: whenever you're being shouted down by "mainstream" paleoNPCs denying actual fossil evidence and trying to convince you of batshit insane theories that have become popular like "ornithoscelida" and magic invisible T. rex feathers, THESE are the sorts of "people" you're arguing with. This is what their side looks like: literal trannies, gurofags and nazifurs.
>literal trannies, gurofags and nazifurs.
I only have a problem with one of these.
Degenerate.
If you're a regular here, I guarantee you're more of a degenerate.
It's especially telling that you need to point a finger to feel better living with yourself.
I guarantee you I'm not. I think half this site should be executed by the other half beating them to death with hammers.
>anti-social thoughts of extreme violence
You're so different anon, not at all like the others!
Must be cool to spend literally every waking hour in a place you hate so you can try to act superior while being wrong all the time. Only in this age could criaturas like yourself exist. Thank god it's ending.
(You)
>Normies once again discover that artists are perverted weirdos
Not all artists. Just the featherfags.
i love me sum classic ixerin stuff
sadly in more recent times she deleted all her accounts, to hide her involvement & "taste" from more profesional paleo circles
is modern chicken feathered or scaly ?
Feathered. They have some scales, but most birds do.
I believe there is a difference between rows of filament running down an animal's back and an isolated patch of scales. It could be from Utahraptor, as like modern birds it likely still had scales on some areas. It could even be from a part of the body where feathers should be, disproving Utahraptor being feathered. However, these are just possibilities. To use this find to say that Utahraptor was scaly despite it's closest relatives being feathered is about as schizo as saying Tyrannosaurus was feathered despite it's closest relatives being scaly.