One of my scuba diving buddies had a seal swim up to him and just start chewing on his head. He wasn't even doing anything and had to get stitches in multiple places.
I think op should go to a beach and pet a seal, some people don't learn things when they're told about them and they need to learn via firsthand experience. Go ahead op it'll be fine.
When I was a wee lad in Denmark the harbor seals would show up at our beach in Summer and play with us. We could pet them and swim with them and feed them herrings (fishing village).
They really are the dogs of the sea.
I never see them there anymore.
OP is a massive retard, so does everyone agreeing with him.
You don't get close to the seals because it stresses them out. It causes several massive problems, including :
-stampede, which could get pups accidentally killed
-mothers abandoning the pups out of fear
-seals eating rocks out of stress, which cause stomach damage that can kill them in the long run
Wild animals are very vulnerable to human retardation.
Oh man imagine if seal predators existed in the wild, they would be so fucked. Luckily nature is a peaceful safe haven for animals to relax and never feel threatened enough to kill themselves.
they rest on beaches because they usually don't have to deal with sharks, orcas, bears and other sufficiently large land carnivores and, hopefully, anglos there
It used to be 10m LMAO they're taking the piss >t. 10m chad
Gotta see the seals and sea lions in detail, but not disturb them. 20 gorillian metre gays can FUCK OFF
Not all of us are as weak and useless as penguins buddy. Some of us have actual MUSCLE MASS but I guess soi drinking californians wouldn't understand that.
most of california doesn't have signs on the beaches regarding the pinnipeds. You're not supposed to approach them but they're also pretty hard to avoid. My guess is they're only sheltered in places where tourists have been a problem in the past, or people got hurt fucking with them.
Most people just ignore them and move on down the beach.
>nature should be unsheltered
If nature was unsheltered there would be no more nature. Every mountain would be a giant quarry, every lake would be a dump site, every woodland would be paved over, every animal would be collected or killed.
I assumed sheltered meant sheltered by a governing entity. If nature is 100% unsheltered by anyone, then nothing else is. So even private property is unsheltered , not by police, not by private guards, and not by the property owners themselves. It is an impossible scenario that can't even exist in a semi realistic fictional universe.
>be industrialist >dump mass amounts of toxic pollution into river >sorry about your downstream nature reserve bro
That's only one example. How in the fuck could you even post that without actually knowing, or even thinking about, what happens when you let people do whatever the fuck they want to nature? It would take half a second to think of a million reasons why that's a bad idea. Same with people approaching animals. It isn't just for your own safety, it's to provide the animals a little bit of peace from the assholes like you that would walk up to them and scare them away from their natural habitat, ruining the chance for everyone else to see them and harming them for no reason other than being a nosey fucking prick.
How underage are you morons to not understand that every single one of these "don't wash chicken before you cook it" and "don't mess with animals you don't know" are all made as retard-protection policies and rules?
Not that anon, but I usually rinse meat off before I cook it because of shit that gets on it in the packaging plant. Not even bacteria but metal shavings from the blade.
Kinda like that myth that birds will abandon chicks if you touch them. It was likely made up to discourage people from kidnapping perfectly fine fledgelings thinking they can't fly because they were injured when in reality they are just learning to fly
I dunno, I think a lot of murrican folklore arose without motive or reason. Mostly from appalachian grandmas that didn't know shit about nature but wanted some good mysterious rules to hand out anyways.
nah that's got filthy hippie and duplicitous academic wanker all over it. appalachian granny would tell you critters do things how they do things and just you leave it be and it'll either figure it out or it won't.
pretty sure that one is a lot older than either hippies or giving a fuck about the environment.
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it actually got me curious and i've been looking for some mention of its origin. earliest documented note made of it. whatever. not finding much so far.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/59598/59598-h/59598-h.htm
found this though which is pretty interesting in its own right and points toward lots more sources to look at in its bibliography
9 months ago
Anonymous
looks interesting....
All I have is personal experience. I'm fairly old, 50 now. My parents and grandparents both repeated the old "smell of your hands" tripe to us and they also told us to go out and shoot some birds with our slingshots and bb guns when we were bored. Or stray cats. Or whatever. Also they all kept outdoor cats that killed birds daily.
I think the concern for the health and wellbeing of birds is an extremely new thing. When I was a kid you might have gotten locked up for suggesting something crazy like bird lives matter. Now you might get locked up for saying the opposite. Anons don't understand how much things have changed just in their parent's lifetimes.
Not that old myth though, it's still going strong whether people care about birds or not.
9 months ago
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>Anons don't understand how much things have changed just in their parent's lifetimes.
putting it mildly, yeah. easy enough to get a basic grasp of the more broad strokes if you've any interest in finding out but the details, the minutiae of day to day, the doings and attitudes and beliefs that made up the people themselves and the fabric of their lives... all the stuff that matters and connects us to our roots is hazy at best. really gotta hear it from those who lived it if you want it brought into focus. my grandparents have all passed now but my grandma always made it a point to tell me about how things have changed and what they used to be like. parents do the same but with them it's moreso if i happen to ask rather than just because. this weird sense of doom and ruin tends to accompany my thoughts these days whenever i wonder how much of the conventional wisdom type stuff has been lost. posts like yours are nice to read, thanks for that. think more has changed for the worse or for the better overall?
probably a better reason for the myth is wild birds are crawling with lice, something anyone that's ever handled one probably knows.
sound line of thinking. preventing the kids from bringing in hitchhikers would've been enough of a motivating factor all by itself.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>think more has changed for the worse or for the better overall?
overall better, but much more complex. I grew up in a much simpler america. Not nicer, but simpler.
9 months ago
Anonymous
probably a better reason for the myth is wild birds are crawling with lice, something anyone that's ever handled one probably knows.
I dunno, I think a lot of murrican folklore arose without motive or reason. Mostly from appalachian grandmas that didn't know shit about nature but wanted some good mysterious rules to hand out anyways.
I mean when I was a kid nobody cared if you killed or kidnapped birds. That wasn't a concern and it certainly wasn't enough of a concern to make up myths to stop you.
Probably most boomers took a babby bird or squirrel to school for show and tell at some point. Nobody freaked out because nobody cared. Those birbs were put on earth by god for little timmy to snag and put in a shoebox.
Yeah you and every other ‘omg I wanna work with animals xD’ moron who think that the jobs are all about touching and playing with animals or being in their general vicinity.
What would even count as liking something for you? Reading academic journals?
Biology was a very common major at my university. I wasn't one, but don't you think they all saw a documentary or went to the aquarium as children and thought "cool, I want to learn about this" and then go on to get serious academic knowledge? You're being uppity for nothing.
So if I walk across the barrier everybody will act like fags and be upset with me because they're worried about me?
I don't know where you're from but its definitely not the same here.
9 months ago
Anonymous
America makes it illegal to drive without seatbelts and people still do it even though it takes 1 second and is in every single car for free. No one really cares about you, but unnecessary deaths are an economic drain of resources, even if you’re worthless.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Live free or die
9 months ago
Anonymous
No, people will be fags because you broke a rule and it makes them feel superior. The fact they think it's to help the animals just adds to that feeling of superiority. See: mask mandates.
The rule is posted as intended protect the animals because it's a more effective deterrent than saying it's to protect you, because people like you think that seals aren't potentially deadly and will be more likely to ignore a "for your own safety" warning.
9 months ago
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it actually is to protect the animals. Causing a stampede when they have pups that can't run is just going to kill the pups. Even if it doesn't, most wild animals live on a slim enough diet that any extra exercise has the potential to kill them over time.
nobody cares if you get hurt on the beach. Not like there's signs there saying to stay off the rocks or avoid the water, both of which kill far more people every year than seals could. If seals kill you it's one less idiot to worry about. But we don't need idiots killing seals.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lifeguards at beaches will absolutely yell at people who get too close to rocky areas.
9 months ago
Anonymous
yep, but again, the vast majority of the California coast doesn't have lifeguards.
9 months ago
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The beaches do. the places most people go and potentially get hurt do.
9 months ago
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>the places most people go and potentially get hurt do.
right again. Nobody cares if you die on the california coast, they just don't want to get sued by your family.
if they actually cared, you wouldn't be allowed to go to all those places that don't have lifeguards.
9 months ago
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You arent.
Most of those places would be trespassing.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>Most of those places would be trespassing.
if that's what you want to believe.
but in real life, nobody owns the beaches in california, and private property owners are required to build beach access for the public.
and most of the coast doesn't have life guards.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>nobody owns the beaches in california
The state owns the beaches.
https://www.coastal.ca.gov/#http://www.coastal.ca.gov >private property owners are required to build beach access for the public
And yet. >Homeowners have employed several tactics to try to keep their beachfront properties private. A recent example of a case in Malibu involved a property owner charging people $40 to walk on the beach, and banning surfing unless the person was a resident or a friend of a resident. Others have blocked public walkways down to the shore with signs warning visitors to “keep off” or not to “trespass”. >Noaki Schwartz, a commission employee, was asked to do some reconnaissance following a stream of formal complaints from the public, including tourists and locals, about being denied access to areas along Escondido beach. >She had been on the beach just a few minutes when a tall, uniformed security guard approached. He told Schwartz she was trespassing on private property and “threatened” her with a $1,500 fine and a court citation if she didn’t leave.
But you keep believing what you want.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>The state owns the beaches.
yes
not private citizens.
the state
>gives a bunch of examples of landowners trying to deny access and getting sued
you sure showed me
9 months ago
Anonymous
>no one owns the beach >I mean someone obviously does
You got wrecked.
9 months ago
Anonymous
>state property is private property >the state is a person
yes, you totally "wrecked" me
9 months ago
Anonymous
Easterners get mixed up about that because there's lots of private beaches on the East Coast.
but on the West Coast and Hawaii I don't think there's a single inch of private beach aside from a few small chunks on military bases and indian reservations.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Iucky bastards. I got hounded off of a private beach once, pretentious fucks weren't even using it and it was all rocks anyway.
9 months ago
Anonymous
You're definitely right about me, I wouldn't see much danger and go and give one a nice head run which will make my day.
I'll take your word for it.
9 months ago
Anonymous
they bite. A lot.
In the US at least if you get hurt by nature that's your own problem though. An ER trip for a seal bite costs more than you make in a year so we leave it up to people to make their own choices in most cases.
9 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't think they bite, it would be hilarious to get bitten by one, hooef not too hard. They can't even walk so you'd probably deserve it if you did manage to let one hurt you kek.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Their bite isn't much worse than a dog, but the bacteria in their mouths is particularly foul.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_finger
9 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit! I had no idea, I guess I'm very wrong. Good thing I read this before fucking around with them.
They can move 15-20mph on land, not a human sprint but not far below. And smaller seals are still 300+ lbs of muscle and fat.
Still slow but surprisingly fast.
A lot to be learned in this thread.
9 months ago
Anonymous
They can move 15-20mph on land, not a human sprint but not far below. And smaller seals are still 300+ lbs of muscle and fat.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Their bite isn't much worse than a dog, but the bacteria in their mouths is particularly foul.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_finger
>Their bite isn't much worse than a dog
For the smaller ones at least. The larger ones are literally just bears with flippers with a bite to match. People don’t even seem to see steller’s sea lions or leopard seals as a threat and will try touch them
9 months ago
Anonymous
yeah makes me laugh
leopard seals are really bitey and sea lions are just aggressive bastards.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao you got your ass kicked by a fucking seal of all things and now you're running around coping trying to convince everyone that "N-no they're actually super dangerous guise" when the reality is that you're a little pussy bitch with too much estrogen. Maybe your daddy should have beat your little gay ass more, maybe then you'd be an actual man and wouldn't get your ass kicked by these fat fucks. Pathetic
9 months ago
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>t. Canadian
9 months ago
Anonymous
Bravo, you are one of the least intelligent people I have met this month. You just fail to analyze human society/behaviour.
I ask you: who do you think pushes for such warning signs to be erected? *What* related to wild animals x human encounters lives in *whose* heads rent-free? Can you imagine an answer?
The answer is: wildlife protection. Wildlife protection is the thing that actually occupies people's minds, passions, and efforts. No one cares if a drunk fratboy dives into a pack of seals like its mosh pit, then gets crushed. Who is the advocate to prevent that? There are no special interest groups for retard protection. Of course retard protection happens, but it's just soulless managerial bureaucracy, it is not the energy behind most such measures so that wild animals can be left alone (only "supposedly" in your mind due to psychological tricks -- fuck off).
I knew you Americans are a hyper-sheltered, nannied bunch that won't even let their 12 year old kids walk to school alone, let alone go anywhere else. At least keep the animals out of your golem shenanigans.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Thanks I knew that couldn't have been right. Why would they go through all the effort.
9 months ago
Anonymous
No the will act like fags because you didn't do what the guberment said to do and that means you are an evil chud. Intelligent people can discern the separation between their own morals/critical thinking and the authority's mandate rules. The rest are well, like these monkeys
https://richcoward.com/5-monkeys-experiment/#:~:text=Every%20time%20a%20monkey%20tried%20to%20climb%20the,Soon%2C%20no%20monkey%20dared%20go%20up%20the%20ladder.
9 months ago
Anonymous
This is totally it, I don't know how I didn't realise it myself. This is life.
It's crazy how people become this way.
9 months ago
Anonymous
Huh.
When exactly did they do this experiment?
Because it certainly isn't a bullshit story dressed up as science.
20 m means that you're close enough to see them but far enough away that they don't change their behavior i.e. react to your presence
Redditors are gay
I stopped seeing reddit everywhere when I got off that site anon
you should try it too
But aren't seals the doggos of the sea?
One of my scuba diving buddies had a seal swim up to him and just start chewing on his head. He wasn't even doing anything and had to get stitches in multiple places.
I think op should go to a beach and pet a seal, some people don't learn things when they're told about them and they need to learn via firsthand experience. Go ahead op it'll be fine.
When I was a wee lad in Denmark the harbor seals would show up at our beach in Summer and play with us. We could pet them and swim with them and feed them herrings (fishing village).
They really are the dogs of the sea.
I never see them there anymore.
OP is a massive retard, so does everyone agreeing with him.
You don't get close to the seals because it stresses them out. It causes several massive problems, including :
-stampede, which could get pups accidentally killed
-mothers abandoning the pups out of fear
-seals eating rocks out of stress, which cause stomach damage that can kill them in the long run
Wild animals are very vulnerable to human retardation.
If theyre so retarded and scared of everything, maybe they dont deserve to exist
Anglos should be kept 20 meters away from any living organim
Especially the females
>seals eating rocks out of stress
Sounds like the seals are just as retarded as OP, they deserve each other.
Oh man imagine if seal predators existed in the wild, they would be so fucked. Luckily nature is a peaceful safe haven for animals to relax and never feel threatened enough to kill themselves.
they rest on beaches because they usually don't have to deal with sharks, orcas, bears and other sufficiently large land carnivores and, hopefully, anglos there
Ah I think I get it, so I'm diving it'll be fine for me to go near them because they'll be READY to fight as they're in the water.
The things you learn on Wauf. Please confirm that you're giving me permission because I don't want to it be my fault if they eat rocks afterwards.
I definitely think you should do the field research to prove your hypothesis.
Noo my delicate Seal Baby. I was only going to pick up my had, promise I wasn't going to walk past you. Please don't eat Rocks baby.
Less talking, more getting in the water and messing with seals.
I see you've changed your tune a bit, retard. So the restriction is for my safety now.
I guess you thought about how dumb you sounded protecting your babies. At least you're learning young fella.
>so I'm diving it'll be fine for me to go near them because they'll be READY to fight as they're in the water
Sure but you might get eaten
Ok?
It used to be 10m LMAO they're taking the piss
>t. 10m chad
Gotta see the seals and sea lions in detail, but not disturb them. 20 gorillian metre gays can FUCK OFF
Honestly approaching them should be encouraged. If they get enraged and you cant outrun them, well, that's darwinism for ya
>Fuck off, I'll get as close as I wan- ACK
I wonder what penguin meat tastes like?
Literally retarded flightless birds, cant be that hard to hunt one. Go for it.
Not all of us are as weak and useless as penguins buddy. Some of us have actual MUSCLE MASS but I guess soi drinking californians wouldn't understand that.
Anglos shouldn't be allowed near animals
*mauls you*
>Swiggity swingers, I'm coming for your fingers
i wish you would die on a beach
or anywhere
>woooow how was I supposed to know?!
Skyrim giant physics are real?
No sympathy for femoids
Have you ever been to disneyland?
fact is one asshole chasing the seals isn't going to do much harm
1.5 million assholes a day chasing the seals is going to kill them
and if one asshole in america does something, all the other assholes want to do it too.
also if OP doesn't know how assholes ruin everything,
He is that asshole.
The only answer so far that makes sense. Fair enough, even if I think nature should be unsheltered.
most of california doesn't have signs on the beaches regarding the pinnipeds. You're not supposed to approach them but they're also pretty hard to avoid. My guess is they're only sheltered in places where tourists have been a problem in the past, or people got hurt fucking with them.
Most people just ignore them and move on down the beach.
>nature should be unsheltered
If nature was unsheltered there would be no more nature. Every mountain would be a giant quarry, every lake would be a dump site, every woodland would be paved over, every animal would be collected or killed.
no because some private companies/individuals would want to keep their private wilderness land untouched.
lasts about 30 years at best. Then that person dies or that company gets new owners and managers and they do what anyone that wants make money does.
That would be sheltering it now wouldn’t it
I assumed sheltered meant sheltered by a governing entity. If nature is 100% unsheltered by anyone, then nothing else is. So even private property is unsheltered , not by police, not by private guards, and not by the property owners themselves. It is an impossible scenario that can't even exist in a semi realistic fictional universe.
>be industrialist
>dump mass amounts of toxic pollution into river
>sorry about your downstream nature reserve bro
That's only one example. How in the fuck could you even post that without actually knowing, or even thinking about, what happens when you let people do whatever the fuck they want to nature? It would take half a second to think of a million reasons why that's a bad idea. Same with people approaching animals. It isn't just for your own safety, it's to provide the animals a little bit of peace from the assholes like you that would walk up to them and scare them away from their natural habitat, ruining the chance for everyone else to see them and harming them for no reason other than being a nosey fucking prick.
I refuse to believe you're over 18.
Didn't read. Cry more. have a nice day.
>fact is one asshole chasing the seals isn't going to do much harm
https://www.newsweek.com/three-seal-pups-three-days-die-after-beachgoers-wont-leave-them-alone-1477577
>exception that proves the rule
Only some people are smart and special enough to be allowed to get close to and disturb the seals. Peasants can fuk off.
Yes that is objectively correct.
How underage are you morons to not understand that every single one of these "don't wash chicken before you cook it" and "don't mess with animals you don't know" are all made as retard-protection policies and rules?
>nobody got sick from chicken washing ever, but you better not do it!
this is the kind of shit that gradually trained the common person for lockdowns
Why the fuck do you want to wash chicken in the first place?
when i make poached chicken for hainanese chicken rice, i like to exfoliate the chicken with salt first. Then rinse. Gets the skin nice and clean.
why do you want extra bacteriotoxins in your food?
Because I have a functioning immune system. Such is life when you are not more inbred than a show cat.
Eat off the floor then.
immune system can't protect against toxins produced by bacteria.
interesting idea though. Modern mithridatism
Not that anon, but I usually rinse meat off before I cook it because of shit that gets on it in the packaging plant. Not even bacteria but metal shavings from the blade.
Kinda like that myth that birds will abandon chicks if you touch them. It was likely made up to discourage people from kidnapping perfectly fine fledgelings thinking they can't fly because they were injured when in reality they are just learning to fly
I dunno, I think a lot of murrican folklore arose without motive or reason. Mostly from appalachian grandmas that didn't know shit about nature but wanted some good mysterious rules to hand out anyways.
nah that's got filthy hippie and duplicitous academic wanker all over it. appalachian granny would tell you critters do things how they do things and just you leave it be and it'll either figure it out or it won't.
pretty sure that one is a lot older than either hippies or giving a fuck about the environment.
it actually got me curious and i've been looking for some mention of its origin. earliest documented note made of it. whatever. not finding much so far.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/59598/59598-h/59598-h.htm
found this though which is pretty interesting in its own right and points toward lots more sources to look at in its bibliography
looks interesting....
All I have is personal experience. I'm fairly old, 50 now. My parents and grandparents both repeated the old "smell of your hands" tripe to us and they also told us to go out and shoot some birds with our slingshots and bb guns when we were bored. Or stray cats. Or whatever. Also they all kept outdoor cats that killed birds daily.
I think the concern for the health and wellbeing of birds is an extremely new thing. When I was a kid you might have gotten locked up for suggesting something crazy like bird lives matter. Now you might get locked up for saying the opposite. Anons don't understand how much things have changed just in their parent's lifetimes.
Not that old myth though, it's still going strong whether people care about birds or not.
>Anons don't understand how much things have changed just in their parent's lifetimes.
putting it mildly, yeah. easy enough to get a basic grasp of the more broad strokes if you've any interest in finding out but the details, the minutiae of day to day, the doings and attitudes and beliefs that made up the people themselves and the fabric of their lives... all the stuff that matters and connects us to our roots is hazy at best. really gotta hear it from those who lived it if you want it brought into focus. my grandparents have all passed now but my grandma always made it a point to tell me about how things have changed and what they used to be like. parents do the same but with them it's moreso if i happen to ask rather than just because. this weird sense of doom and ruin tends to accompany my thoughts these days whenever i wonder how much of the conventional wisdom type stuff has been lost. posts like yours are nice to read, thanks for that. think more has changed for the worse or for the better overall?
sound line of thinking. preventing the kids from bringing in hitchhikers would've been enough of a motivating factor all by itself.
>think more has changed for the worse or for the better overall?
overall better, but much more complex. I grew up in a much simpler america. Not nicer, but simpler.
probably a better reason for the myth is wild birds are crawling with lice, something anyone that's ever handled one probably knows.
I mean when I was a kid nobody cared if you killed or kidnapped birds. That wasn't a concern and it certainly wasn't enough of a concern to make up myths to stop you.
Probably most boomers took a babby bird or squirrel to school for show and tell at some point. Nobody freaked out because nobody cared. Those birbs were put on earth by god for little timmy to snag and put in a shoebox.
can seals get corona?
I envy them, I wish I worked with Animals.
Yeah you and every other ‘omg I wanna work with animals xD’ moron who think that the jobs are all about touching and playing with animals or being in their general vicinity.
Who hurt you
life and being old in general.
You absolute weirdo, I told you I just want to touch them and have no interest in biology?
Please get Lobotomy quick.
>omg i love watching videos of animals on youtube im such a biology nerd xD
What would even count as liking something for you? Reading academic journals?
Biology was a very common major at my university. I wasn't one, but don't you think they all saw a documentary or went to the aquarium as children and thought "cool, I want to learn about this" and then go on to get serious academic knowledge? You're being uppity for nothing.
How do I join the Federal Bureau of Goofing with Seal Flippers
Be a certain kind of person
>”You need a license to touch nature” -~~*Them*~~
please go walk between a bear and her cub
do it now
Oh shit they're little Bears, I thought I posted the Seal screenshot. I'll go look for that one now.
Seals basically are little bears. They're gigantic, strong, and predators.
20m is a little much, but the whole "don't get between it and its pup/the sea" is smart. Not for the seal's benefit, but for yours.
You do realise the wildlife notices here are for the Animals sake?
No they're pitched that way because people respond better than to "do it to not die".
So if I walk across the barrier everybody will act like fags and be upset with me because they're worried about me?
I don't know where you're from but its definitely not the same here.
America makes it illegal to drive without seatbelts and people still do it even though it takes 1 second and is in every single car for free. No one really cares about you, but unnecessary deaths are an economic drain of resources, even if you’re worthless.
Live free or die
No, people will be fags because you broke a rule and it makes them feel superior. The fact they think it's to help the animals just adds to that feeling of superiority. See: mask mandates.
The rule is posted as intended protect the animals because it's a more effective deterrent than saying it's to protect you, because people like you think that seals aren't potentially deadly and will be more likely to ignore a "for your own safety" warning.
it actually is to protect the animals. Causing a stampede when they have pups that can't run is just going to kill the pups. Even if it doesn't, most wild animals live on a slim enough diet that any extra exercise has the potential to kill them over time.
nobody cares if you get hurt on the beach. Not like there's signs there saying to stay off the rocks or avoid the water, both of which kill far more people every year than seals could. If seals kill you it's one less idiot to worry about. But we don't need idiots killing seals.
Lifeguards at beaches will absolutely yell at people who get too close to rocky areas.
yep, but again, the vast majority of the California coast doesn't have lifeguards.
The beaches do. the places most people go and potentially get hurt do.
>the places most people go and potentially get hurt do.
right again. Nobody cares if you die on the california coast, they just don't want to get sued by your family.
if they actually cared, you wouldn't be allowed to go to all those places that don't have lifeguards.
You arent.
Most of those places would be trespassing.
>Most of those places would be trespassing.
if that's what you want to believe.
but in real life, nobody owns the beaches in california, and private property owners are required to build beach access for the public.
and most of the coast doesn't have life guards.
>nobody owns the beaches in california
The state owns the beaches.
https://www.coastal.ca.gov/#http://www.coastal.ca.gov
>private property owners are required to build beach access for the public
And yet.
>Homeowners have employed several tactics to try to keep their beachfront properties private. A recent example of a case in Malibu involved a property owner charging people $40 to walk on the beach, and banning surfing unless the person was a resident or a friend of a resident. Others have blocked public walkways down to the shore with signs warning visitors to “keep off” or not to “trespass”.
>Noaki Schwartz, a commission employee, was asked to do some reconnaissance following a stream of formal complaints from the public, including tourists and locals, about being denied access to areas along Escondido beach.
>She had been on the beach just a few minutes when a tall, uniformed security guard approached. He told Schwartz she was trespassing on private property and “threatened” her with a $1,500 fine and a court citation if she didn’t leave.
But you keep believing what you want.
>The state owns the beaches.
yes
not private citizens.
the state
>gives a bunch of examples of landowners trying to deny access and getting sued
you sure showed me
>no one owns the beach
>I mean someone obviously does
You got wrecked.
>state property is private property
>the state is a person
yes, you totally "wrecked" me
Easterners get mixed up about that because there's lots of private beaches on the East Coast.
but on the West Coast and Hawaii I don't think there's a single inch of private beach aside from a few small chunks on military bases and indian reservations.
Iucky bastards. I got hounded off of a private beach once, pretentious fucks weren't even using it and it was all rocks anyway.
You're definitely right about me, I wouldn't see much danger and go and give one a nice head run which will make my day.
I'll take your word for it.
they bite. A lot.
In the US at least if you get hurt by nature that's your own problem though. An ER trip for a seal bite costs more than you make in a year so we leave it up to people to make their own choices in most cases.
I didn't think they bite, it would be hilarious to get bitten by one, hooef not too hard. They can't even walk so you'd probably deserve it if you did manage to let one hurt you kek.
Their bite isn't much worse than a dog, but the bacteria in their mouths is particularly foul.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seal_finger
Holy shit! I had no idea, I guess I'm very wrong. Good thing I read this before fucking around with them.
Still slow but surprisingly fast.
A lot to be learned in this thread.
They can move 15-20mph on land, not a human sprint but not far below. And smaller seals are still 300+ lbs of muscle and fat.
>Their bite isn't much worse than a dog
For the smaller ones at least. The larger ones are literally just bears with flippers with a bite to match. People don’t even seem to see steller’s sea lions or leopard seals as a threat and will try touch them
yeah makes me laugh
leopard seals are really bitey and sea lions are just aggressive bastards.
Lmao you got your ass kicked by a fucking seal of all things and now you're running around coping trying to convince everyone that "N-no they're actually super dangerous guise" when the reality is that you're a little pussy bitch with too much estrogen. Maybe your daddy should have beat your little gay ass more, maybe then you'd be an actual man and wouldn't get your ass kicked by these fat fucks. Pathetic
>t. Canadian
Bravo, you are one of the least intelligent people I have met this month. You just fail to analyze human society/behaviour.
I ask you: who do you think pushes for such warning signs to be erected? *What* related to wild animals x human encounters lives in *whose* heads rent-free? Can you imagine an answer?
The answer is: wildlife protection. Wildlife protection is the thing that actually occupies people's minds, passions, and efforts. No one cares if a drunk fratboy dives into a pack of seals like its mosh pit, then gets crushed. Who is the advocate to prevent that? There are no special interest groups for retard protection. Of course retard protection happens, but it's just soulless managerial bureaucracy, it is not the energy behind most such measures so that wild animals can be left alone (only "supposedly" in your mind due to psychological tricks -- fuck off).
I knew you Americans are a hyper-sheltered, nannied bunch that won't even let their 12 year old kids walk to school alone, let alone go anywhere else. At least keep the animals out of your golem shenanigans.
Thanks I knew that couldn't have been right. Why would they go through all the effort.
No the will act like fags because you didn't do what the guberment said to do and that means you are an evil chud. Intelligent people can discern the separation between their own morals/critical thinking and the authority's mandate rules. The rest are well, like these monkeys
https://richcoward.com/5-monkeys-experiment/#:~:text=Every%20time%20a%20monkey%20tried%20to%20climb%20the,Soon%2C%20no%20monkey%20dared%20go%20up%20the%20ladder.
This is totally it, I don't know how I didn't realise it myself. This is life.
It's crazy how people become this way.
Huh.
When exactly did they do this experiment?
Because it certainly isn't a bullshit story dressed up as science.